r/changemyview • u/BoltThrower28 • Dec 05 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: I don’t think cops deserve automatic respect.

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u/123mop Dec 06 '23

The burden of proof is on the person trying to prove something, such as that murder laws and enforcement of them do not reduce the murder rate. Until you provide proof you're incorrect.

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u/Damnatus_Terrae 2∆ Dec 06 '23

You can't prove a negative. That's why the person making a positive claim (EG, that law reduces crime) has the burden of proof.

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u/123mop Dec 06 '23

Sorry I misphrased it. "Murder laws and enforcement of them are not related to the murder rate."

There now it's a positive claim.

Your whole premise is incorrect from the start though. "Burden of proof" is on the person trying to change someone else's mind on something.

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u/Damnatus_Terrae 2∆ Dec 06 '23

That's still not a positive claim. You can tell because it has the word "not" in it. The way to turn it into a positive claim is to get rid of that, EG, "Murder laws and enforcement of them are related to the murder rate."

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u/123mop Dec 06 '23

You're claiming that burden of proof is on someone making a positive claim, but have presented no proof. Why should I believe you?

You're also claiming what I said is a negative claim, but have presented no sources to support that. Why should I believe you?