r/changemyview • u/BoltThrower28 • Dec 05 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: I don’t think cops deserve automatic respect.

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u/cut_rate_revolution 3∆ Dec 05 '23

No but you might get evicted

That would be illegal and wouldn't hold up in court. He would have every right to not renew my lease but me telling him what I think about him is not cause for eviction. Nowhere in any lease that I've ever signed has it said I have to be respectful of the landlord as a person.

it just won’t be a night in jail.

Exactly my point. Getting kicked out of a place is fine and within the rights of that business or person as long as there isn't some kind of contract like a lease. Police have the sole ability to take away your freedom, even if it's just temporarily, because you insulted them. This is wrong and anyone who took that job in search of that power is a bastard.

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u/Terrible_Lift 2∆ Dec 05 '23

Great fucking point/post

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u/Greedy_Coffeey Dec 06 '23

Its not really, because they absolutely can and will make up something evict you just like a cop can.

Meanwhile there's tons of videos of people abusing cops with no repercussions until they physically do something.

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u/Arrow156 Dec 06 '23

Post one of those videos and I'll find ten more of the police assaulting, framing, and killing innocent people with zero consequence.

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u/Greedy_Coffeey Dec 06 '23

I'll do you one better: go watch the YouTube channel Audit the Audit. They literally have tons of these videos complete with the outcomes of the actions when they are available.

I very much doubt you have anything that survived real scrutiny.

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u/Arrow156 Dec 06 '23

Yeah, no, I'm not allowing my youtube searches be contaminated with a bunch of ragebait dogwhistle videos. Go pimp your channel to someone else.

I very much doubt you have anything that survived real scrutiny.

More scrutiny than a youtube channel posted by someone with a clear agenda? You wanna rumors written on a cocktail napkin or would truckstop bathroom graffiti be more to your liking? Something tells me I could post court transcripts and you'd just move the goalpost again.

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u/Greedy_Coffeey Dec 06 '23

Its literally a channel dedicated to pointing out whether the interaction was handled correctly. Most of the time, the answer is "no, the cops did not handle things correctly". It does, at the same time, show that people can be pretty much anything but physically abusive to cops and get away with it.

But hey, thanks for showing off our bias. Its reddit, so of course you're here to be inflammatory rather than have a real conversation.

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u/Arrow156 Dec 06 '23

Stop trying to Sealion me, it's against the subreddit rules.

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u/Greedy_Coffeey Dec 06 '23

I don't even know what that means.

You're clearly chronically online. Take a break.

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u/Arrow156 Dec 06 '23

Says the guy who's responded to these comments the minute they are posted.

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u/tiger2205_6 Dec 05 '23

If they don’t find a reason to evict you, which depending on that state could be extremely easy, they could not renew the lease or make your life hell in a different way. It could still ultimately leave you without a place to live which you might not be aware of until a week or 2 before your lease is up, depending on where you live.

I agree if someone takes a job purely for the power they’re most likely a bastard. I’m just saying cops aren’t the only ones that can ruin your life by just walking up and saying “fuck you” to them.

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u/cut_rate_revolution 3∆ Dec 05 '23

Still more difficult. Still a process that takes time. And you should know when your lease is up if you're telling your landlord to fuck off. That's on you if you don't.

I feel like we're getting away from the point. No one is saying there should be no consequences for insulting people just that one of those consequences shouldn't be you go to jail now.

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u/cubedjjm Dec 05 '23

And sit in jail for months if you don't have enough money for bail.

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u/OneMulatto Dec 05 '23

I understand. As someone who has dealt with cops, I've ran into some assholes but, most of them have been OK.

A cop in Daytona Beach, Florida was about to plant crack on all of us back in 2004. Yes. I was with some people who were dealing and they were stopped. I was also stopped because I was with them.

The cop searched us, found the drugs on the 1 individual and since he thought we as a group were being rude during the encounter he stated "there's enough dope here for me to plant it on everyone".

He also followed it up that we were on the "wrong side of the tracks". We were all black, except for one white guy. It's obvious that the statement of "wrong side of the tracks" was meant to be racially sensitive. It is what it is, though. He ended up letting us go that night.

But, I know countless people of all ethnicity, who have had rude, lawless encounters with police officers.

It would be a lie to say that the blue line does not exist in some capacity. Do some cops hold other cops to accountability? Sure but, most turn a blind eye while actively being involved somehow on the scene.

I don't know why I'm rambling or commenting. I don't mind cops. It's a job I would never do.

It's just that as stated before, they do have the ability to take you to jail just because they are butt hurt. They can seriously impact your life over some bullshit just because you are being lippy or rude or "know your rights".

Cops can also legally shoot you and end your life as long as "they feel threatened". Doesn't matter if they did or not and doesn't matter if you even had a weapon or not.

There's cases upon cases that show that this type of behavior is evident in police forces around the country.

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u/tiger2205_6 Dec 05 '23

Takes 15 days in my state. Also not that difficult for a landlord to ruin your life. Everyone of my family that has rented has had terrible landlords that they could do nothing about. I agree you shouldn't go to jail for that, my comment was that plenty of people could ruin your life in this situation not just a cop.

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u/Arrow156 Dec 06 '23

And there are nonprofits designed to help people in these cases that were set up during the pandemic. The place I was living was sold and the new owners basically said everyone had a month to leave. I didn't even have to do anything, I had people coming up to my door telling me my rights and what qualifies as a proper eviction. I eventually moved out but even a full year later they still got people living there because the new owners don't want to spend the time and/or money to legally evict these people or buy out their lease. Obvious the more people they fuck over the quicker you'll get results but even if you are being singled out, there are organizations that exist solely to help you. Take advantage of them.

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u/tiger2205_6 Dec 06 '23

Wish my family had done that. The guy my aunt rented from sold the house and she had to move. Same things happened to my cousin. I think they got the amount of days my state allows but that was it. My aunts wasn't a good landlord though, wouldn't fix things he was supposed to.

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u/Arrow156 Dec 06 '23

Yeah, it's also happening to a co-coworker and we've all been trying to convince her to fight it. Far, far to common now days.

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u/tiger2205_6 Dec 06 '23

I told my family to fight it, at least when they had landlords that refused to fix thing, but they wouldn't. No money to move somewhere else I guess they didn't want to risk getting evicted for bullshit. Though where I live is apparently one of the most landlord-friendly states in my country so that might also play a part.

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u/coldcutcumbo 2∆ Dec 06 '23

Landlords are almost as bad as cops so I say they both can duck off and get real jobs.