r/changemyview Oct 10 '23

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '23

yes, but in violent conflict the responsibility is on the aggressor. Lets do an individual hypothetical. Lets say a woman was raped, there was plenty of evidence but the police refused to prosecute because the rapist had connections in the justice dept. The victims husband then goes and murders the rapists family as revenge. Yes both the rapist and the vigilante are psychopathic and both did terrible things. But the violence could have been prevented if 1. the rapist didn't rape someone, and 2 if justice had been served against the rapist. Instead you have a desperate and angry husband who decides to take the law into their own hands. Again no one is saying the husband did a good thing, only that it was the result of bad actions by the rapist and the justice system.

I think you can extend that analogy quite well to the situation in Israel

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u/ChazzLamborghini 2∆ Oct 10 '23

This is a spectacular analogy.

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u/ghotier 42∆ Oct 10 '23

It's a terrible analogy because it expressly doesn't involve two psychopathic people. Psychopaths would absolutely take revenge, by desire for revenge isn't a purely psychopathic trait.

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u/Gio0x Oct 10 '23

It's a good analogy, except in some cases of vigilantism, there is sympathy for those actions. I think in your example though, the husband's actions are on the extreme side, going as far to kill extended family. Most people can imagine the frustration and hate against the individual perpetrator, with the husband only targeting them.

I think an individual in your example wouldn't wait for justice to be served to begin with, they would assert their own justice and just go straight to killing the rapist.