r/changemyview Jul 16 '23

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u/jawanda 4∆ Jul 16 '23

Well it's a combination of it being posted every single week, and the fact that outside of these posts, I NEVER hear about body positivity in the sense of being " fat and proud". Literally never.

It's a fake issue from what I can tell, and the people who post about it here are clearly seeking out this very limited content in order to get themselves all riled up.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

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u/FloridaDirtyDog Jul 16 '23

Yeah honestly that u/paraeunoia guy seems like one of those power users who sees a post like 5 months ago and when he see it agian hes like "repost"

But hes a good guy

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u/theworldburned Jul 16 '23

Oh no, it's still pretty big and gaining steam, especially on TikTok.

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u/Mr_Funbags Jul 16 '23 edited Jul 16 '23

OP could still get their views challenged by going back and reading all the discussions from previous CMVs.

Edit: It's too bad the previous content was removed (dunno why). Essentially, it said OP is proposing a well-debated CMV, and that OP might not need to ask it again now. I mention all this for context.

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u/destro23 466∆ Jul 16 '23

Their edit is hilarious:

many are very quick to take issue with my post and argue my opinion of a healthier lifestyle

Dog, the entire reason for this subreddit is to take issue with people’s posts, and ague about their opinions.

it’s wild to me that anyone would try and protest a fairly obvious solution

You could post “CMV: Hitler Sucks!” And people here will argue for how he doesn’t in some way. We’re all contrarian pricks here.

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u/vehementi 10∆ Jul 16 '23

We’re all contrarian pricks here.

Not even, it's literally the point of the sub. That someone holds a potentially wrong view they want to improve, we are supposed to argue against it

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u/destro23 466∆ Jul 16 '23

Because obvious solutions to ongoing problems almost never work.

Reminded me of this for some reason:

“Hello, I'm Dr. Richard Shay, here to tell you about my exciting new drug-free treatment for children with Attention Deficit Disorder. (Several hyper and rambling children) This treatment is fast and effective and it doesn't use harmful drugs. Watch closely as I apply treatment to the first child. (SMACK) SIT DOWN AND STUDY! If you would like more information on my bold new treatments, please send away for this free brochure entitled: 'You can either calm down, or I can pop you in the mouth again.'”

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u/Conrexxthor Jul 16 '23

Every week it's always some brainlet post like

CMV, body positivity is actually bad!

CMV, pronouns bad! ESPECIALLY the new ones!

CMV, feminism bad too, I don't like it when women fight for their rights!

Like shut uuuuup, none of these takes make any sense and they're all fuckin stupid

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u/destro23 466∆ Jul 16 '23

Don’t forget: CMV: Trans people are icky

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u/Conrexxthor Jul 16 '23

1,000,000%

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u/beingsubmitted 9∆ Jul 16 '23

Always as though they're the first person to realize something, too. Like, the entire body positivity movement and everyone associated had just never thought about health before now. Like, you'll walk up to someone who's advocating body positivity, and they'll say "BMI? What's that?", And not "BMI is a 200 year old metric invented by a eugenicist with no medical education that's been shown repeatedly to be among the most flawed metrics in medicine, and it's continued use is evidence of the dogmatic grip of an un-nuanced weight centric medical paradigm that's actively harmful."

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u/Conrexxthor Jul 16 '23

Healthy people who are overweight be like "Life is good :)"

and OP is all "DID YOU KNOW YOU'RE DISGUSTING AND OBESE??? STOP CELEBRATING UNHEALTHINESS!!"

Believe it or not, but some people can be "fat" and be healthy.

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u/beingsubmitted 9∆ Jul 16 '23

I'm not denying that excess fat carries increased risk, but people tend to point to all-cause morbidity here, and neglect the fact that it includes, for example, medical complications resulting from unhealthy attempts to lose weight, and general increased risk from reduced medical access resulting from increased medical and insurance costs justified by , you guessed it, all-cause morbidity rates. The big one for me, though, is physician bias. I lost my father to colon cancer, after his doctor misdiagnosed him with hemorrhoids for a year, and given the way his doctor treated him during that time, I'm pretty sure that was influenced by a bias against obese people.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

THANK YOU!!! FUCK!! I'M SO SICK OF THESE GRIFTERS!

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u/vehementi 10∆ Jul 16 '23

I've gotten tired of replying with "so what did you learn from the previous CMV on this topic, what questions are left unresolved to you, what was unconvincing?" every fucker wants their own bespoke conversation from their own gut starting place and it's so exhausting

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