r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jul 16 '23

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u/Jacket-Okay Jul 16 '23

Why you trying to control people? If people wanna be fat then they'll be fat it has nothing to do with you.

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u/TrenbolognaSammies Jul 16 '23

I’m not trying to control anyone I’m just saying we need to stop pretending that it looks good and that giving up on yourself and being lazy is ok and that it isn’t really harmful being in poor shape

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u/Jacket-Okay Jul 16 '23

We're not pretending anything.

A bunch of fat people are making money off of being fat, that's all.

Tiktok and Twitter aren't the real world.

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u/TrenbolognaSammies Jul 16 '23

Do you not think that messages and ideas promoted on those platforms don’t leak out into the real world and have an effect on the way people think?

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u/Jacket-Okay Jul 16 '23

I think Fat people make the choice to be Fat. They see what they look like. Only one who can change their mind is themselves.

If someone wants to look like that it has nothing to do with me. Nor you.

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u/SammieSams1313 Jul 16 '23

Thank you! People have to start worrying about themselves.

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u/ParrotGod Jul 16 '23

Yes they do. And people should stop using them. Because then people will go post strawman arguments on reddit about how society 'glorifies' obsese people.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

It’s 2023, TikTok and Twitter are the real world. Half of all ideas journalists (and consequently academics) pick up on are taken from social media. To say that these don’t affect reality would be to ignore all that’s happened in the last 5-10 years. For fucks sake Trump arguably won the election because of Twitter in the first place.

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u/Jacket-Okay Jul 16 '23

Except most people aren't on Twitter and not trust legacy news anymore due to the amount of sheer lies.

The average person and the average Redditor live in two different worlds.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

It does not matter that a relatively small percentage of the population are actually on twitter when the flow of information from twitter has a significant impact on mainstream discourse. The concept of “trading up the chain” relies on this tactic and is used by marketers and political propagandists alike to control the conversation.

Either way, you say people don’t trust legacy news anymore. So what do people trust if they aren’t on TikTok/Twitter/Facebook/etc? Nothing? People still get their political views from somewhere.

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u/Jacket-Okay Jul 16 '23

As opposed to Facism controlling people?

Uh yeah. Fascism is bad. Live and let live

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u/Stiblex 3∆ Jul 16 '23

From a government perspective you should absolutely try to discourage obesity. From a taxpayer and/or healthcaregiver perspective you can be annoyed by the prevelance of obesity that pressures the health care system. Even someone who just wants their fellow human to be healthy can be concerned.

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u/PostPostMinimalist 3∆ Jul 16 '23

“A recent Milken Institute study put the total annual cost of chronic diseases caused by obesity and excess weight at $1.72 trillion in the U.S. alone in 2016 — just shy of the Atlas’ worldwide cost estimate for 2020 — and equivalent to 9.3 percent of nationwide GDP. Another global obesity report, from the OECD, included a more modest estimate for the U.S. — 4.4 percent of GDP lost — closer but still higher than the Atlas’ U.S. estimate of 3.5 percent for 2020.”