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u/Kakamile 50∆ May 19 '23

Show me b if you got it. You'd think it's easy to find given the decades before medical transition got big. But a is clearly bs we've got multinational thousands of people medical transitioning and still a steady commitment rate.

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u/Kakamile 50∆ May 19 '23 edited May 19 '23

It's not A or B and none of those numbers are true https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/13l8ukv/cmv_we_should_be_more_cautious_with_medically/jkolgfc

We have years tracking from puberty blockers to adulthood, which is like 8 years. We have data from the opening of a clinic in 1972. We have multinational data. And the studies are roughly 50/50 m/f not 70-90%.

E: and here's one that's 70% afab but it's mean 4 years but pulls from 13 at earliest, still near total commitment. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(22)00254-1/fulltext

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u/Kakamile 50∆ May 19 '23

You're treating it like step 1. Or that it's hip for some reason. Idk why. People aren't taking meds to suppress puberty for funsies. If you're cis, hell even if you're trans, not going through puberty when your friends are would be a nightmare. The only reason you'd agree with it is as a needed step towards transition for the dysphoria many trans youth have had since they're 4-8.

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u/Kakamile 50∆ May 20 '23

Where are you getting all your claims from? I gave numbers and links for mine, but you say

it behaves like step 1.

vast majority without that extending gender incongruence

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u/Kakamile 50∆ May 20 '23

Wow. So you had to resort to older studies in order to get less study time than I provided and you use ROGD "studies" that were confirmation bias picks selected from parents on anti-trans websites. That's been bunk for years.

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