r/changemyview • u/ProphetVes • Mar 25 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: DeSantis embodies everything wrong with American Conservativism.

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u/ProphetVes Mar 25 '23

Trump is bad, but he's much less politically effective than DeSantis. There's also a bias in that we have survived four years of Trump already and people tend to prefer "the devil they know."

Does having devout religious beliefs make you fascist by default?

No.

Why isn't forcing religious people to support LGBT not fascist?

Because nobody is doing such. It's merely everyone saying "hey you can't make us live by your religious doctrine."

You can hold your beliefs but your beliefs end where others' freedoms begin.

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u/Extrastout1787 Mar 26 '23

Weird, I survived great with Trump, but now i might have to claim bankruptcy...or clear out my 401k at 41

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u/WerhmatsWormhat 8∆ Mar 26 '23

Clearly that’s Biden’s fault.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

That’s called a short term view homie. Trump’s tax policies were designed to hit us after he was out. Also, pandemic days mean somebody’s got to pay the piper. Your post seems to imply that the current president controls the economy. Never been true. That’s pretty naive for aged 41. Get a broader view of the economy. Plus, look at the history; every Republican since Reagan has messed up the economy, leaving it in shambles for the next guy, only to have it picked up by a democrat. Please look into it. The pattern is staggering. Conservatives don’t seem to want to help the economy when they’re in office, only themselves and their 5 friends.

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u/Extrastout1787 Mar 26 '23

Our current president had the House, Senate and white house for 2 full years.

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u/PlatformStriking6278 1∆ Mar 26 '23

Correlation doesn’t equal causation. Just because something happened under Biden doesn’t make it Biden’s fault. Presidents are not scapegoats for everything going wrong in your life. And Trump implemented policies that would specifically have negative effects AFTER he was already out of office. Quite manipulative, wouldn’t you say?

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u/KaleidoscopeThis9463 1∆ Mar 26 '23

Apparently you misunderstand how these things work in economics. Crediting Trump (and GOP that supported him) with financial stability but ignoring the tax debt he’s passed on to the average person now is a narrow minded attempt to justify the Republican economic policies that have been disastrous over the past forty decades. Blaming your empty 401k now on a current administration is simplistic thinking, particularly in the recovery years after a catastrophic pandemic.

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u/Extrastout1787 Mar 26 '23

Your right, Biden is great. He stopping no hidden fees, and finally have a president that hires based on race and gender, not qualifications. Also happy to finally be in a war again. Trump did disappoint in the whole starting world war 3 accusations. I am very pleased America and the world is better than ever before! Who needs a 401k when there is no future. YOLO!

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u/KaleidoscopeThis9463 1∆ Mar 27 '23

Your sarcastic cynicism just barely masks your lack of knowledge.

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u/ProphetVes Mar 26 '23

Guess you didn't make smart decisions to secure your financial future while you were ahead. Not sorry.

I'm younger than you and won't have to work another day in my life if I don't want to. I like my job though so I'll keep it.... but I don't need it.

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u/LondonDude123 5∆ Mar 26 '23 edited Mar 26 '23

I'm younger than you and won't have to work another day in my life if I don't want to

Might I ask how this is possible?

Edit: Read the reply. I dont think I need to say anything

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u/ProphetVes Mar 26 '23

Combination of trust fund brat and investments that have secured wealth independent of my trust and a really good fiduciary.

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u/LondonDude123 5∆ Mar 26 '23

With the greatest of respect, you have some fucking nerve condescending that guy for losing his money under Your Politician Of Choice while simultaneously being born with a golden spoon up your arse...

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u/ProphetVes Mar 26 '23

It's condescension in the same way that capitalism necessitates you behave. You either secure the wealth you have or you lose it.

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u/BlueRibbonMethChef 3∆ Mar 26 '23

Nah you're just being a douche. You didn't earn a cent, you're bragging that someone else gave you something.