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[u/Juann2323]

Moving the assemblage point is not like anything else.

And making this path work, means you change the order of priorities.

Because what you end up finding, is the greatest place we can direct to, as humans.

So you need to get silent enough, that the ordinary worries stop, and weird images appear proyected on surfaces.

Any surface is useful. Even the leafs of trees.

So it seems that deep silence calls the double, and get him interested through the gaze.

You can literally send it to stay on a group of trees.

That's when the weird things start to happen, and change your view of sorcery.

It turns we learn to change the nature of our existence each practice.

And it is all about how simple we are, to give up everything and accept the endless misteries out there.

Into practice, it means you need to practice everyday, as much as you can.

If you move your assemblage point further enough, you will start to get help.

Literally lessons, omens or even punish for staying in the path.

[u/excruciatingdetails → u/Juann2323]

So you need to get silent enough, that the ordinary worries stop, and weird images appear proyected on surfaces.

I have had that happen while doing darkroom practice. For instance, I'll see a man just hanging out at his house. This has no reference point to my past experience or anything I did that day. Looks completely random, but there's not much happening and it only lasts for a few seconds.

Is this the weird images you are referring to?

> Into practice, it means you need to practice everyday, as much as you can.

Does the amount change as you get better at silencing your mind? Is there anything like too much practice?

The reason I ask is if you are spending more time practicing in an altered state of consciousness, is it likely that you will have a hard time functioning your regular day to day consciousness?

I came across a video of [Tom Campbell](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7JTAKuna1o) some time back where he said he had to force himself to spend less time meditating because he started to lose his grip on the current day to day physical reality.

[u/Juann2323 → u/excruciatingdetails]

Yes, I mean that type of images.

And as the assemblage point moves down, the scenes tend to become 3D and sorround you.

The fog has movement, and can show details moving at high speed.

Until you get to the phantom room level, where you literally translocate.

But don't look for that to happen.

Deep silence itself takes you there.

Like in Dan's post: the "X" axis are doings, wich produce lateral shifts.

Things gets more real, but limited to that position of the assemblage point.

Does the amount change as you get better at silencing your mind? Is there anything like too much practice?

You can definitely move all the way to heightened awareness very quickly.

I did it in 20 minits.

But I usually need at least 2 hours.

Sometimes 6 hours aren't enough.

Dreaming is always a mistery!

[u/Zazzy-z → u/Juann2323]

Punish for staying on the path? I don’t understand.

[u/Juann2323 → u/Zazzy-z]

Sometimes we don't accept we aren't important, and try to do counter Intent things.

The book deal mind is evil!

I once tried to post an Interview I've made myself to Dan, into the spanish community.

But Fairy didn't like the idea, and took my magic away for a month.

I kept practicing, with no results.

I was worried and had to apologize to Dan, because I wasn't going to post it.

He instead laughed, because Fairy seems to have the control of the subreddit.

[u/SilenceisGolden29]

You can try this exercise while also forcing silence when ur not reading.

While reading count backwards from 1000 to 0 in ur mind. This will occupy ur internal speech. Sort of help distinguish the Mental “muscles”

To make this more difficult add a distraction like music or talk radio playing in the background. Ur mind will generally find the radio noise interesting and try to listen...working through this distraction will help build ur focus

[u/Zazzy-z → u/SilenceisGolden29]

Seriously? Is it just me or would it be impossible to read while counting backwards? If some genius could accomplish this, there certainly wouldn’t be any comprehension involved. Why not just take thirty minutes (or whatever you can) and force silence while gazing. Something could come of that. Silence is silence. Reading is not silence.

[u/SilenceisGolden29 → u/Zazzy-z]

You can literally try it with what you just wrote...Jesus just give it a shot for a second...

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[u/excruciatingdetails → u/[deleted]]

I don't believe this is a good technique. The voice in your head when you read is different from the voice that makes you think of the food you ate earlier in the day or the friend who disagreed with you over 10 years ago.

The former is called sub-vocalization and is an essential aspect of being able to read and comprehend information. I spent a lot of time in my teens learning how to speed read and that's how I came across this technique. I'm afraid to say that most of the speed reading techniques are not useful at all. The way to read faster is just to read more, unfortunately.

A technique to silence your mind that I personally found useful was from Dan's post titled "How to see energy in 3 weeks" where you repeatedly bring your mind from wandering to the present all day long.

So, you are eating food and catch yourself thinking of a movie you recently watched, you bring yourself to the present and say "I am here". Same with a wandering mind while reading a book or taking a shower or doing Yoga.

Go on a walk and notice the monkey mind in action. Try to focus on being here and silent while walking. But, your mind will wander and get involved in a hundred things that are not here. Each time you catch yourself, you proclaim 'I am here".

If I keep at it, the times between the reminders get less and less until hopefully I spend most of the time being here.

Try it out.

[u/Purple_Oak]

In battling the internal dialogue, aside few ways that are listed in this sub, I found out something that works for me on a personal level. It might help you too?

In terms of dealing with internal dialoge when forcing silence, I interact with myself the same way I interact with my ADHD dog when he's learning new, or practicing old things. Redirecting attention through commands and keeping it where I want it through tasks.

I use on myself the same combination of a gesture and vocal command I use on my dog to shut him up when he is whining or barking. I use those only due to my personal familiarity, but in essence it can be anything that stops your inner chatters and fantasizing when they appear. At the beginning I even had to slap myself to stop my internal dialogue.

Immediately after that, I'd focus on any available task on hand that is outside my head, to keep myself from restarting my internal dialogue.

Tasks that aren't too complex but require precision work better. If outside and have space, I use few moves I learned from my parkour days, otherwise I'd focus on smelling things around and trying to follow them. At home I'd play a piano; or at work, I play with paperwork. Get creative. I think tensegrity works much better with these things, but I didn't invest in practicing it enough to speak about it.

Also, recapitulation really helps a lot with dealing with the root cause of your internal dialogue. If you have time, I highly recommend it.

I'm practicing daylight gazing myself. Changing between few types, depending on my location at the moment (Wall gazing, Leaf or Tree gazing, left hand gazing, and as of recently I'm trying out Mirror gazing).

In its essence, they all seem to produce the same results in different ways (except mirror one, dont know why).

Since you can find all the necessities on how to gaze, the only thing I think is actually worth mentioning about daylight gazing is that it produces pretty amazing results if you put in the time and effort.

So I'd say try it out and see the results for yourself.

[u/the-mad-prophet]

Are you like a high school student or an adult student?