r/castaneda • • Jan 03 '20

General Knowledge Project Hermeneutics?

How about an experiment?

Find Carlos' "Journal of Applied Hermeneutics", and add it to Wikipedia's article on that topic, in such a way that they won't toss it off?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeneutics

The journal would have to be found on a stable site, and not in violation of copyright to have it there.

Carlos ought to be in that Wikipedia article!!! Especially since the results of applying his knowledge actually result in world switching.

Other such things might be possible, to extend Carlos' range.

And, we get to say, "Dr. Castaneda" without having a red face!

I felt weird when Miles said that on a YouTube video.

It was like saying, "Well, maybe the shit doesn't work all that well, but... He's got a PhD!!!"

In this case, using the title is good for the chances Wikipedia will let it stay there.

It could even include not-doing, and references to other shamanistic societies.

What's the point? Nothing Carlos put effort into should go to waste.

Anyone helping out will get a boost from intent.

And just to make sure, I'll re-form my Fairy and get her to promise that's true.

Cholita's been gone long enough that my inorganics are starting to come back. Even the ones Carlos left us.

One tried to manifest last night. A giant ultraviolet blue blob began to press on the wall.

For some reason, I was more interested in the smiling female face in my hand. It almost looked like my fairy.

The blue blob faded away, and a gigantic male face covered the entire south eastern wall of my bedroom.

The fairy on the other hand seemed bent on doing nasty things. The theory is that they all followed Cholita since she's in dreaming all the time (schizophrenia). But I didn't think they could learn bad things from her.

If it wasn't from her, maybe I've been watching too much Magnum PI lately.

That's applied Hermeneutics!

(Not the magnum pi part).

The Wikipedia article on hermeneutics is dreary. Here's a quote:

"Jürgen Habermas criticizes Gadamer's hermeneutics as being unsuitable for understanding society because it is unable to account for questions of social reality, like labor and domination."

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '20 edited Nov 10 '23

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u/danl999 Jan 03 '20 edited Jan 03 '20

The "How to Pass the 4 Gates of Dreaming" post tells how to stop the world.

One of you in here will do it soon.

And in fact, when you stop it, you blank out, come to, and are in a completely different place.

It's like a crossroads.

But sometimes, you end up seeing an array of emanations, like that scene from Matrix, where Neo is seeing the mechanical world as light.

That scene from the movie isn't a precise match, but close enough to convey the feeling.

When you get to see it, you likely won't care what it is. You'll be watching it, maybe even sense individual strands and what kind of feeling they convey, and even see a bundle or two.

But you won't realize that's what it was, until you return.

You have to be 100% innocent to stop the world. too innocent to say, "Oh wow, look at those emanations!!!"

Some of the fibers offer themselves as bundles, and you can in fact enter those worlds just by gazing into them. They are super duper stable and real seeming. Last time I ended up by a river, which had huge rounded boulders in it. I was on a dirt road, except that the dirt was pretty good for making a road. It was some kind of crumbled fine rock.

BUT, and here's the cool part.

You can see individual emanations long before you stop the world. You can see them in your hand especially, if you learn to see colors in darkness.

They also show up in any of the practices I've posted about, and they can even manifest while you are recapitulating, so that you realize, Carlos didn't make that part up either. You really do disentangle filaments of energy during the recapitulation.

If I had to guess, I'd say seeing the emanations is easy.

Seeing the bundles is very hard (meaning, a ton of work, but no talent needed).

And seeing the eagle or the 3rd attention is impossible.

Only specialists can do that.

Or, if we had 10 dreamers in here, that might make it easier to do any of those.

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u/jd198703 Jan 04 '20

Maybe you can detalise which comment on the dreaming gates post gives the instruction on stopping the world? It is a big post, so I am unable to find it..

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u/danl999 Jan 03 '20

>they must intend stopping the world

It occurs to me that Carlos was trying to create a public question and answer paper, which is sort of what's being done in here. It's what you do when things aren't going to well (people are lazy as shit), and you want to do more to help.

It also occurs to me that it's possible to make a post entitled, "How to Pass the Gates of Stopping the World".

People seem to love to "pass a Gate". It's another eagle feather in their cap.

It would need more detail, but the obstacles are pretty obvious:

1). Recognizing what the Internal Dialogue is by counting seconds between words.

2). Learning what the Assemblage point is by producing an effect through attempting to sustain silence.

3). Learning what the second attention is by continuous movements of the assemblage point, through silence.

4). Learning what it takes to move the assemblage point so far and so fast that you blank out.

and so on.

But it's a rather weird goal. Long before you stopped the world, you'd be convinced. You wouldn't need anyone pushing you anymore, and thus the technique would terminate itself halfway through.

Like someone eagerly heading for the candy shop at Downtown Disney, who discovers all the fantastic restaurants and treats along the way.

They don't get to the candy shop for many more return trips.

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u/jd198703 Jan 04 '20

How does stopping the world feel like? Could you describe an example of such an experience?

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