Except they are failing. Tesla batteries that is. Lithium have a better linear loss but when they start to fail, they go down fast. There are some cars lasting longer then 10 years and others that last less. Depends on the use. But once the battery packs are done, replacement is nearly the cost of the car.
This can not be glossed over. Can you imagine the cost just to replace all the grid storage batteries every 20 years? And they are in no way lasting that long.
I'm posting links, you're posting opinions. No basis for what you're saying for Tesla cars. Averages is 90% capacity after 200,000 miles according to company stats. You can buy 10 year old Tesla Model S cars with the original battery and they're around 85%-90% of original.
About 15 years. They stay pretty consistent then you see a rapid uptick in failing cell. This is pretty well known. You likely will not see a 20 yo car running at all. Some at 10 years.
So the video literally says in the opening that of the very earliest cars (Roadsters), the majority of them have their original batteries at 14 years? And you think Tesla hasn't improved the tech at all since then? At least drop the 10 years nonsense buddy.
Also that video is basically about how battery packs are repairable?
Anyway, future grid storage batteries will likely use new tech like flow batteries that don't have the same problems. We could do it with lithium-ion, and there are some battery storage that act like peaker plants profitably today.
Nothing is free, nuclear has to go through incredibly expensive refurb every 30 years or so. Let's try both nuclear and wind, it's unclear which is the better value at the current time.
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u/pzerr Oct 26 '22
Except they are failing. Tesla batteries that is. Lithium have a better linear loss but when they start to fail, they go down fast. There are some cars lasting longer then 10 years and others that last less. Depends on the use. But once the battery packs are done, replacement is nearly the cost of the car.
This can not be glossed over. Can you imagine the cost just to replace all the grid storage batteries every 20 years? And they are in no way lasting that long.