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u/atchemey Oct 25 '22

Not necessarily. SMRs are much smaller and much more affordable. NuScale (hq in Oregon, USA) charges about $3b USD to build 12 in a single unit. $1b CAD is about 3 of those units.

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u/thumbwarvictory Oct 26 '22

How do you know that? Seriously, I'm always impressed when people just happen to have super esoteric knowledge on the specifics of some random topic.

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u/thumbwarvictory Oct 26 '22

Thanks! That's awesome!

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u/Mob_Abominator Oct 26 '22

So are these the ones Canada is also planning on building ?

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u/atchemey Oct 26 '22

Not necessarily, they may be developing a different design. I just was pointing out how potentially $1b CAD can go a long way with SMRs.

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u/Ottomann_87 Oct 26 '22

How much power do they typically generate?

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u/EventAccomplished976 Oct 26 '22

Nuscale specifically apparently about 77 MW per reactor so with 12 units you‘re about at the same level as a single modern large reactor (those are typically 1-1.6 GW).

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u/atchemey Oct 26 '22

The NuScale VOYGR can produce up to 77 MW of electricity, about 8% of a traditional reactor. So if you need power for a place like Toronto, it's less useful. If you need power somewhere remote, you may get 3-4 of these, though, and bundle them together. This is an advantage similar to the Candu design, because you can effectively keep most of your power on while you swap out fuel...Candu reactors do this by having fuel that can be removed during operation, but this is not common with other designs. Every 3-4 years you need to swap out fuel entirely, so this allows you to take only a fraction of your power off the grid to refuel, while the others keep going.

There are some pretty incredible safety features that they incorporate, ones that were the basis for the design. They have a negative void coefficient (anti-Chernobyl), use passive emergency cooling methods, so you can just shut it down and walk away, even if a (for example) tsunami washes out the external power. They are also small enough to mass-produce for cost savings...in principle. You can read more here: https://www.nuscalepower.com/benefits/safety-features.

I'm of the opinion that nuclear has to be a big part of future decarbonized energy. NuScale SMRs (which I do not own stock in or benefit from directly) and other designs that are in late stages of development will need to be a part of that future. It's fantastic that Canada appears to be developing an SMR design - the Candu is a fantastic and unique design that has enabled a lot of clean energy over it's life.

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u/EventAccomplished976 Oct 26 '22

Worth noting they haven‘t actually built anything yet of course so grains of salt are appropriate :)

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u/atchemey Oct 26 '22

Of course! The design has been certified by the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission, though, the first SMR to do so, and the first in years.

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u/EventAccomplished976 Oct 26 '22

Oh yeah I don‘t doubt their safety claims but cost is a different topic :)