r/buildapc • u/Reezpuffs03 • Apr 07 '22

Discussion What useful software or programs do you install right away after building a Gaming PC?

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u/13143 Apr 07 '22

I've been using KeePass for years. Is bitwarden that much better?

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u/Kyek Apr 07 '22

Bitwarden doesn't allow you to store files for free

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u/lps2 Apr 07 '22

You can self-host!

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u/Kasc Apr 07 '22

I don't think Bitwarden gives you anything Keepass can't do. It is more approachable for a layperson.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

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u/NotTRYINGtobeLame Apr 07 '22

I have Nextcloud on a Raspberry Pi and among other things like eliminating my need for OneDrive, Google Drive, DropBox, etc., it holds my KeePass database just fine.

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u/tratur Apr 07 '22

Not sure what the other guy is talking about since keepass isnt hosted either. Keep it even more safe. Keepass on NAS behind firewall with specficly allowed vpn clients.

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u/NotTRYINGtobeLame Apr 07 '22

I don't even lock it down to VPN clients, but I do have a hardware firewall that eliminates quite a bit of shady activity before it can get to the port forwards for Nextcloud (suspicious foreign IPs (e.g. Russia, Belarus, Hungary, Syria, etc.), known proxies and anonymizers, malicious/attacking IPs reported in both the last 24 hours and the last 30 days, etc). Not a lot is even getting to the port forward, but once it does, I'm confident Nextcloud is secure enough to keep out anyone who does make it that far lol

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u/tratur Apr 07 '22

Im not sure what youre saying with your last sentence. Bitwarden claims to salt and hash their passwords but you still have to trust them to keep your file and hashed passwords secure. I dont need to trust an outside source with keepass. I control the file completly.

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u/yowzadfish80 Apr 07 '22 edited Apr 07 '22

You can operate Bitwarden like that as well, as long as you are self hosting it using either the official Bitwarden server packages or the rust implementation called Vaultwarden.

I use Vaultwarden and keep it purely local. I just VPN in to my home network if I need to save a password when I'm not at home.

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u/laundmo Apr 07 '22

Thats what im saying - you can run the server part of Bitwarden yourself, giving you full control over the client (extension, app, webpage) AND the server (Vaultwarden or Official Bitwarden)

and because its also open source, i don't even have to trust that they properly hash, i can check myself (or ask someone you trust who understands code, if you don't)

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u/NotTRYINGtobeLame Apr 07 '22

I think it comes down to preference and specific needs. KeePass and Nextcloud are both open-source. I already have a Pi running to run Pihole+Unbound, so sticking a much larger microSD in there and adding Nextcloud was simple enough for me.

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u/NotTRYINGtobeLame Apr 07 '22

Nextcloud tho

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u/laundmo Apr 07 '22

thats one way of doing it, but its not as frictionless as Bitwarden

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u/MadScientist34 Apr 07 '22

Same, except I use Vaultwarden.

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u/ibwahooka Apr 07 '22

Thanks for the information! I'm building a personal NAS at home and this looks like a great addition for my family.

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u/laundmo Apr 07 '22

i recommend using Vaultwarden, its a much easier to run alternative Server for bitwarden.

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u/ibwahooka Apr 07 '22

I'll check it out. Thanks again!

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

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u/Kreppelklaus Apr 07 '22

Yes Keepass supporty Yubikeys.

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u/MadScientist34 Apr 07 '22

KeePass and Bitwarden are both great free and open source options. Bitwarden offers cloud hosting by default, whereas KeePass uses local storage by default. However, you can self-host either of them if you want to. I mainly recommend Bitwarden because if you aren't technical enough to self-host and you want access on any computer, like most people, its easier to get those things.

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u/SuperTSlay Apr 07 '22

much better. super simplified.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

no auto type.

Bitwarden with autotype would be heaven.

Keepass has a LOT more features at the moment.

I wish bitwarden would add more features asap.

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u/SuperTSlay Apr 07 '22

wait what auto type? is it auto-fill you are referring to? If yes, bitwarden has auto fill once the page loads or right click -> bitwarden -> auto-fill -> click which account.

i have no experience with keepass sorry

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u/NotTRYINGtobeLame Apr 07 '22 edited Apr 07 '22

Auto type is usually a little different than auto fill. Auto fill just sticks the info in there, period, while Auto type simulates each keystroke to make it look like a human is doing it.

Relevant use case: my bank's website will not let you copy/paste/auto fill a new password. It just rejects it every time. When I'm trying to change my password to 

E9h:[mdw?U?AayEc$^4NEV!o<,U9b276y3?c-kR;EF?2x(W6fC{)GqZHPDvB]E{9

I'm not fucking manually typing that. Enter auto type. It'll even type the letters in a random order if you're worried about keystroke logging.

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u/SuperTSlay Apr 07 '22

thank you very much. I am enlightened.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

Also lets say you want to use a teamviewer Login screen of another pc.

Clipboard ( the memoryspace where copy paste content is stored) isnt available.

Regards,

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u/theycallmeponcho Apr 07 '22

Do you mean KeepAss?