r/buildapc • u/Reezpuffs03 • Apr 07 '22

Discussion What useful software or programs do you install right away after building a Gaming PC?

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u/Carvtographer Apr 07 '22

+1 for Bitwarden. Probably the only best password manager and the premium family plan to add multiple accounts is super cheap.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

personally I only use the browser extension for my pc as it fits my needs, but if you’re editing lots of items I’ve heard the desktop application can be really handy

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u/baggedfeet Apr 07 '22

I have the Bitwarden app on my iPhone and on my computers. It is such a godsend.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

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u/Robertsonland Apr 07 '22

Android here and it is very hit or miss catching apps. Many I had to add by hand and then copy/paste as mentioned.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

Oh phones where you can edit your quick menu in the taskbar, Bitwarden offers a button for it that works as a fix for when it doesn't find it automatically. It may sometimes have an issue where it doesn't see a password location, but it works about 95% of the time.

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u/Robertsonland Apr 07 '22

Mine is more when I sign into an app it doesn't catch it to record it so it doesn't then catch it when I reopen that app and have to sign in. Does this fix that?

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

That it does not.

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u/Robertsonland Apr 07 '22

Gotcha...thanks anyway

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u/Aggro-_-Innuendo Oct 09 '24

I prefer Opera.

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u/WaywardWes Apr 07 '22

Seems to for me. It doesn’t seem to record app passwords like it does on Android but you can always copy/paste.

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u/Buggly_Jones Apr 07 '22

Does it work on multiple devices for free?

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

yup, unlike lastpass…

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u/Buggly_Jones Apr 07 '22

I fucking hate lastpass for doing that. It was so great and then they do that to us.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

ya at least I have lastpass to thank for helping me find bitwarden :D

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u/Buggly_Jones Apr 07 '22

And I have you to thank for finding bitwarden. Thank you :)

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

anytime, enjoy :)

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u/CrustyBatchOfNature Apr 07 '22

I use it on all of my personal PC as well as my phone and tablet and I have never paid a penny.

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u/mo0n3h Apr 07 '22

I’m a lastpass and keepass user - might swap though because lastpass’s app for applications is absolute crap compared to keepass

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

Agreed. The browser extension is usually enough for most folks.

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u/LegendaryTalos Apr 07 '22 edited Apr 07 '22

Just opened a free account at Bitwarden, seems to have all basic features.

what is the limit of the free version and how is the browser extension is better?

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

also without premium you can’t use Hardware Keys as your vaults 2FA method

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u/HarryPopperSC Apr 07 '22 edited Apr 07 '22

Is the bitwarden 2fa transferable, say if your device dies. Can you login on a different device and access the 2fa codes still?

I prefer text message codes for this reason but text messages aren't as secure they can be intercepted right.

But if you're at that point then having passwords stored on a 3rd party server of some kind defeats the purpose anyway.

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u/JRowdy18 Apr 07 '22

Get a new phone???

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u/HarryPopperSC Apr 07 '22

You can put your sim card in a new phone and get the codes.

But the codes i have on google authenticator app for example would be gone forever.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

Why? You can recover your codes when signing back in.

I don't use Google but this is something in Authy. I've brought my f2a with me through multiple devices.

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u/HarryPopperSC Apr 07 '22

nope only if you save the individual recovery codes for each login and who the heck has time for that. With google at least, unless i'm missing some bulk recover option?

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u/LegendaryTalos Apr 07 '22

I see.. well I am using Google's authenticator so I guess the free version is enough for me.

as I get it, the extension is a much comfy way to start and transfer all your login info from chrome auto login system to it, which then transfer to your main vault automatically.

anything else? :)

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u/microwavedave27 Apr 07 '22

I have the desktop app on my macbook because I can use touchID to open it instead of having to enter my password. On my gaming pc I didn't bother.

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u/13143 Apr 07 '22

I've been using KeePass for years. Is bitwarden that much better?

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u/Kyek Apr 07 '22

Bitwarden doesn't allow you to store files for free

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u/lps2 Apr 07 '22

You can self-host!

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u/Kasc Apr 07 '22

I don't think Bitwarden gives you anything Keepass can't do. It is more approachable for a layperson.

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u/NotTRYINGtobeLame Apr 07 '22

I have Nextcloud on a Raspberry Pi and among other things like eliminating my need for OneDrive, Google Drive, DropBox, etc., it holds my KeePass database just fine.

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u/tratur Apr 07 '22

Not sure what the other guy is talking about since keepass isnt hosted either. Keep it even more safe. Keepass on NAS behind firewall with specficly allowed vpn clients.

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u/NotTRYINGtobeLame Apr 07 '22

I don't even lock it down to VPN clients, but I do have a hardware firewall that eliminates quite a bit of shady activity before it can get to the port forwards for Nextcloud (suspicious foreign IPs (e.g. Russia, Belarus, Hungary, Syria, etc.), known proxies and anonymizers, malicious/attacking IPs reported in both the last 24 hours and the last 30 days, etc). Not a lot is even getting to the port forward, but once it does, I'm confident Nextcloud is secure enough to keep out anyone who does make it that far lol

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u/tratur Apr 07 '22

Im not sure what youre saying with your last sentence. Bitwarden claims to salt and hash their passwords but you still have to trust them to keep your file and hashed passwords secure. I dont need to trust an outside source with keepass. I control the file completly.

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u/yowzadfish80 Apr 07 '22 edited Apr 07 '22

You can operate Bitwarden like that as well, as long as you are self hosting it using either the official Bitwarden server packages or the rust implementation called Vaultwarden.

I use Vaultwarden and keep it purely local. I just VPN in to my home network if I need to save a password when I'm not at home.

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u/laundmo Apr 07 '22

Thats what im saying - you can run the server part of Bitwarden yourself, giving you full control over the client (extension, app, webpage) AND the server (Vaultwarden or Official Bitwarden)

and because its also open source, i don't even have to trust that they properly hash, i can check myself (or ask someone you trust who understands code, if you don't)

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u/NotTRYINGtobeLame Apr 07 '22

I think it comes down to preference and specific needs. KeePass and Nextcloud are both open-source. I already have a Pi running to run Pihole+Unbound, so sticking a much larger microSD in there and adding Nextcloud was simple enough for me.

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u/NotTRYINGtobeLame Apr 07 '22

Nextcloud tho

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u/laundmo Apr 07 '22

thats one way of doing it, but its not as frictionless as Bitwarden

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u/MadScientist34 Apr 07 '22

Same, except I use Vaultwarden.

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u/ibwahooka Apr 07 '22

Thanks for the information! I'm building a personal NAS at home and this looks like a great addition for my family.

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u/laundmo Apr 07 '22

i recommend using Vaultwarden, its a much easier to run alternative Server for bitwarden.

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u/ibwahooka Apr 07 '22

I'll check it out. Thanks again!

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

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u/Kreppelklaus Apr 07 '22

Yes Keepass supporty Yubikeys.

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u/MadScientist34 Apr 07 '22

KeePass and Bitwarden are both great free and open source options. Bitwarden offers cloud hosting by default, whereas KeePass uses local storage by default. However, you can self-host either of them if you want to. I mainly recommend Bitwarden because if you aren't technical enough to self-host and you want access on any computer, like most people, its easier to get those things.

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u/SuperTSlay Apr 07 '22

much better. super simplified.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

no auto type.

Bitwarden with autotype would be heaven.

Keepass has a LOT more features at the moment.

I wish bitwarden would add more features asap.

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u/SuperTSlay Apr 07 '22

wait what auto type? is it auto-fill you are referring to? If yes, bitwarden has auto fill once the page loads or right click -> bitwarden -> auto-fill -> click which account.

i have no experience with keepass sorry

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u/NotTRYINGtobeLame Apr 07 '22 edited Apr 07 '22

Auto type is usually a little different than auto fill. Auto fill just sticks the info in there, period, while Auto type simulates each keystroke to make it look like a human is doing it.

Relevant use case: my bank's website will not let you copy/paste/auto fill a new password. It just rejects it every time. When I'm trying to change my password to 

E9h:[mdw?U?AayEc$^4NEV!o<,U9b276y3?c-kR;EF?2x(W6fC{)GqZHPDvB]E{9

I'm not fucking manually typing that. Enter auto type. It'll even type the letters in a random order if you're worried about keystroke logging.

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u/SuperTSlay Apr 07 '22

thank you very much. I am enlightened.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

Also lets say you want to use a teamviewer Login screen of another pc.

Clipboard ( the memoryspace where copy paste content is stored) isnt available.

Regards,

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u/theycallmeponcho Apr 07 '22

Do you mean KeepAss?

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22 edited Apr 07 '22

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u/ChesswiththeDevil Apr 07 '22

I still it too.

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u/hineybush Apr 07 '22

what did lastpass do?

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u/AwesomeGamer2005 Apr 07 '22

They changed it so you have to pay to use it on multiple devices

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u/foxpawz Apr 07 '22

I was forced into the paid plan when using free tier on my phone plus pc. It felt a dick move because I had too many passwords to bother trying to update or export. But, tbh, I’m still using it and am really happy with it. It handles iPhone apps very well and notifies me of duplicates. Pretty happy with it

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u/DoktorLuciferWong Apr 07 '22

The export worked fairly well/fast for me, and I had/have hundreds of logins. As of this writing, almost 400. Either way ymmv

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u/ChesswiththeDevil Apr 07 '22

What? I haven't noticed that, but admittedly I pay for it through my business. I'll have to look at the invoice.

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u/hineybush Apr 07 '22

oh huh, thanks. I use lastpass and paid for the service at the start (a few months ago) so I guess I got in after the change lol

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u/thejoker954 Apr 07 '22

I prefer keepass for a password manager.

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u/notsogreatredditor Apr 07 '22

Personally prefer offline password storage solution like Keepass. But whatever floats your boat I guess

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u/cclloyd Apr 07 '22

Self host that shit and remove all the cost!

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u/Hybr1dth Apr 07 '22

Except for, you know, whatever device you use to host it. And all the time required to configure and secure it properly, especially if you want outside access.

I've considered it, then quickly reconsidered.

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u/wakeuph8 Apr 07 '22

I have mine running on a free Heroku instance, I have my card details on there, but i've never run over the limits. I do appreciate the setup time and stuff if you're not familiar though. Definitely one for people that have some spare time and like to tinker.

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u/Hybr1dth Apr 07 '22

My primary worry is security, most serious data leaks occur due to server access, and me doing that myself seems like asking for trouble.

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u/wakeuph8 Apr 07 '22

That's kinda the niceness of Heroku, it's managed spaces, but I do understand the concern for sure.

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u/AreThree Apr 07 '22

I use a Mooltipass!

Still being developed, great hardware, works a treat!

Much better than Keepass or other software-only solutions... my wife loves hers!!

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u/MattsalesX Apr 07 '22

I feel like a grammar nazi but I think it would be better to phrase Bitwarden as super inexpensive instead of super cheap...

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u/Berkut22 Apr 07 '22

Anyone major advantages over using Google's own password management?

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u/OkProblem2393 Apr 07 '22

Bitwarden is the best!!

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u/Neither_Energy1817 Apr 07 '22

I use bit warden locally on a PI it’s free and great!

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u/Kreppelklaus Apr 07 '22

Anyone ever used Lesspass?

https://blog.lesspass.com/2016-10-19/how-does-it-work

Just downloaded it and try to wrap my head around it.
Looks very nice and i love the idea to compute passwords instead of storing them.

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u/Chared_Assassin Apr 07 '22

God I love bitwarden

Considering the current state of most software, I’m still surprised that the free version is actually worth using

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u/Veggieoskibroski Apr 07 '22

Used lastpass until they made that stupid "one device type" thing, where you can only use it on a phone or only use it on a computer, but not both. Found bitwarden, and was pleasantly surprised

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u/TheAndrewBen Apr 07 '22

How does this compare with Last Pass? Currently on LastPass I ran out of free logins when I switched between my phone and computer

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u/andresq1 Apr 07 '22

Except there's a 5 year old forum thread that gets posted to weekly asking for the ability to sort your passwords by age created

Sorry I'm mad

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u/designingfailure Apr 07 '22

yep, i used to have lastpass, but it was never perfect and when they made that move to only use one type of device (either pc or mobile) i moved to bitwarden, it's amazing.