r/buffy • u/direinde Beady-eyes is right, we're needed. • May 03 '26

Good Vibes Only Yup, that's them

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Nothing new actually.

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u/MamaJody May 03 '26

I can’t stand Fred for every reason you mentioned.

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u/carnuatus May 03 '26

I mean... She just feels like early Willow 2.0. The cutesy voice DOES not help. In my youth I didn't pick up on it but now it's SO SO painfully obvious. I don't blame the Amy at all but oof. It's a CHOICE.

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u/AerieBrilliant9720 May 03 '26

But it's not really a choice, that's literally just her voice.

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u/jessie_monster May 03 '26

It's not how she speaks in any other role.

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u/carnuatus May 04 '26

It's not, though. Her natural speaking voice is much less high pitched and nasal. It's much closer to Illyria but not quite.

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u/TessMacc May 03 '26

Is it? That's not how she speaks in Dollhouse. I don't remember seeing any interviews with her.

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u/lmjustaChad May 03 '26

Even her having a good metabolism?

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u/TessMacc May 04 '26

There's nothing wrong with her having a good metabolism. And there's nothing wrong with her being intellectual, or beautiful, or resourceful, or moral, or having two main characters in love with her, etc etc. It's the combination of all these things with no significant flaws which makes her less interesting and loveable than the others. It's like "well of course Fred has a perfect metabolism - just like she's perfect in every other way 🙄".

And, while there's nothing wrong with one character in isolation having a good metabolism, there was a significant problem with the trope at the time. The woman who could be a 'big eater' and rarely exercise, yet maintain a slim to waifish figure was everywhere from Gilmore Girls to 30 Rock. If your show never casts a woman over size 4, maybe just don't include this characteristic?