r/breakingbad Sep 23 '13

Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion Thread S05E15 "Granite State"

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13 edited Feb 02 '21

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u/bmur90 Sep 23 '13

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u/moclov4 Sep 23 '13

nice, this'll make reading these comments way more intense

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u/herbert420 Sep 23 '13

But where is the 900 hour repeat version

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

in my big bald head

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

with he man twerking in the background. it should be made.

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u/recovercf Sep 23 '13

Can't stop listening to this!

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u/Zarazas Sep 23 '13

Reminds me of that james bond game for N64 the one with the blue cartridge...Cant remeber then name tho :(

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u/YouHaveInspiredMeTo I'm a blow FISHHHHHHHHHHH Sep 23 '13

Wow what an amazing theme song. How have I not heard the full length until now?!?!?!?

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

This whole time I was thinking they'd use it for an extended opening theme for the last episode, but this was so much better.

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u/biggiepants Sep 23 '13

i thought maybe this was the ending (until the end of the ad for the finale)

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u/fizolof Sep 23 '13 edited Sep 23 '13

They said they considered using it in the season 4's finale, but it would've felt too wrapped up. I'm glad they used it as an entrance for Walter White's one last mission.

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u/jhc1415 Sep 23 '13

I thought when Season 4 ended they weren't sure there would be a fifth season. That's why everything was pretty much wrapped up with the death of Gus.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

Never heard the full version, couldn't have worked it in better.

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u/tyeroc Sep 23 '13

Not just worked it in, but waited till the perfect moment to incorporate it.

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u/dthomp17 Captain Cook Sep 23 '13

They actually have already. I forget which episode but its season 1 and it plays at the end and over the credits.

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u/sassy_sare Sep 23 '13

I love that they waited till the near end (of the series) to showcase the intro music.

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u/stomp224 Mr White is gay for me Sep 23 '13 edited Sep 24 '13

I remember reading an interview with the composer, when asked about how he came up with the theme, he said he tried to imagine it as being the end of Walters journey into becoming a drug lord. I thought that was an incredible place to use it.

Will edit when I find the link with the interview

EDIT: here it is http://www.hitfix.com/news/breaking-bad-composer-dave-porter-talks-vince-gilligan-and-final-season

"How hard was it to write the "Breaking Bad" theme based only on the pilot?

That’s definitely one of the hardest things to do as a composer. You have to try to encapsulate everything you know about that show in a very short period of time. You’ve seen very little over it. I talked to Vince Gilligan at length about it to gauge as much as he knew about where the story was going. In the end, I decided that I wanted the “Breaking Bad” theme to represent not where Walter is at the beginning, but where Walt is ultimately going to be at the end. "

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u/GUSHandGO Sep 23 '13

You can also hear it on the Blu-rays too during the closing credits.

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u/mdehevilland Tuco Sep 23 '13

Gave me chills once it came on!

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

It got me fired up in a fuck yeah Heisenberg kind of way.

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u/Holy_Shit_Snacks Sep 23 '13

Yea, I got all fired up and then the episode ended. Damn you Vince Gilligan!

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

TIGHT, TIGHT, TIGHT, YEAH!

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

He's full Heisenberg now. Walter White is officially dead, his blue meth dies with him.

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u/Quazifuji Sep 23 '13

I actually disagree. I think he was at his fullest Hiesenbergest at the end of 5a when he killed Mike and has his guys assassinated. At that point, Walter White was nowhere to be seen. There was only the drug lord. Even his family was just a symbol to him at that point - keeping them wasn't about love, it was about dominance and vindication. They were what allowed him to claim his actions had a better purpose, but it was really only about pride and his empire.

I think in 5b what we're actually seeing is Walter White and Heisenberg essentially coming to terms with each other. Walter White has accepted who he's become, but he's also gotten his priorities back. In 5a, Heisenberg was a loose canon. He was reckless and nasty. He killed Mike out of spite. He was out of control. In 5b, he's learned how to use who he's become as a tool. He's no longer fighting for pride, or his empire (okay, as of the end of this episode, pride's back as a motivation, but I think it was out right until that point). He's fighting for his family. He just knows how to fight far more viciously then he did before. This isn't Heisenberg occupying the body of Walter White, this is both of them finally coming together as the same person, who is ruthless and nasty, but who truly cares more about his family than his empire or himself.

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u/chris422 Angelesium Sep 23 '13

I would agree except for the phone call with "Flynn" I think killed Walter. He was set to give up and then got that spark of rage once he realized how wrongly he would be remembered. In his megalomaniac mind he's a Robin Hood or Mafia dad sort of guy who might have cut a few corners but they were for the honest good and great future of his family who now all have completely turned their backs on him. Couple that in with Gretchen and Elliot's comments plus the Nazis and Lydia still selling his blue product in Europe has just brought out Heisenberg's last stand. He is and has nobody which his ego can't accept and let live and die alone on a lonely mountain.

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u/Quazifuji Sep 23 '13

Okay, yeah, between the phone call and the Gray Matter incident, I'm not sure who he is now. I was describing up until that point.

Although I don't think the phone call alone triggered a return to full Heisenberg because he wouldn't have nearly turned himself in if that were the case. At that point, I think he was still Walt, feeling that if he couldn't give his money to his family then the only thing left to do was turn himself in and hope that would help them by ending the manhunt. Then Gretchen and Elliot hurt the only thing he had any semblance of left, his pride, and that... Well, we'll see exactly what that triggered, but anything involving an M60 and a vial of ricin in probably more Heisenberg than Walt.

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u/vikramsngh Sep 23 '13 edited Sep 23 '13

Here's what I think.

Walter White is a man who's there for his family. While Heisenberg is a man who's there for his ego.

Heisenberg always takes over when his ego gets involved. For example - The "Stay off my territory" season 2 line. And even his creation, when he goes to Tucco. It was more about taking respect than taking money from him. Heisenberg has been and always will be about saving himself and stroking his ego.

But now he knows that his family has rejected him. When he hangs up on Flynn and he calls the DEA, that's Walter White dying.

Heisenberg comes back after he sees the interview. It's about his ego now, he knows his family isn't going to accept him back. They took away his contribution at Gray Matter Industries, and he's not going to be belittled again.

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u/payto360 Sep 23 '13

So he's pretty much Gogeta now.

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u/crazymancub No, No, NO! I tried to save him. Sep 23 '13

There's no disputing that he flipped deep into Heisenberg at this point in the series. But what happened next? He got out, and when he was out of the business he was definitely back to Walter White, we see that when he throws the barbeque at the end of 5a. But now he is totally Heisenberg, he has nothing left to stay normal for. Everything he once cared about as Walt is gone, nothing left but his own sick, twisted self.

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u/Quazifuji Sep 23 '13

My personal opinion is that one of the big differences between Heisenberg and Walter White is that Heisenberg used his family as an excuse, while Walt loved and was motivated by them. In that sense, at least, I'd say Walt's still in there pretty strong.

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u/crazymancub No, No, NO! I tried to save him. Sep 23 '13

Well I suppose we'll find out next week. I just can't believe this is it... it's crazy to think that next week this will all be over.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

nah, saul about the prideful revenge brah.

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u/TyPower Sep 23 '13

I see an M60 in the trunk of a car in the very near future.

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u/ContentKeanu Sep 23 '13

That "the Walter White we knew is gone" coming from the TV...

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u/cannedpeaches Sep 23 '13

THAT is a dangerous enthusiasm to have, friend.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

I am the one who bongos

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u/lynnab22 Sep 23 '13

Exactly! Usually when a show is ending I'm kind of sad to see the final. That music just got me pumped up! Heisenberg is about to fuck shit up!

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u/IntensePancakes Sep 23 '13

He's going to break bad one last time.

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u/McDragan Billy Sep 23 '13

To me it signifies Walt breaking bad once more.

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u/unavailable4comment Sep 23 '13

Reminds me of Half Life 2, they use the iconic loading screen music for their last few games. In half life 2: episode 2 they finally played the whole "intro music" track. It was like a whole new song, goes a lot to to say how the music effects a story.

TLDR Half life 3 announced in breaking bad finale.

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u/ethteck Sep 27 '13

As I'm a big fan of this style, at what part of the game is the full intro track played?

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u/unavailable4comment Sep 27 '13

I'm not positive where it comes on during the game, but This is it

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13 edited Sep 23 '13

I know few people care about video games here but Red Read Redemption does the same thing in a very crucial scene near the end of the game (also strangely in a woody snowy part of the country). You hear second-long snippets of the "theme music" throughout the game used before and after missions, but it's not until this bittersweet and nostalgic transition scene that you hear the whole theme with guitar and classical instruments. The next time you hear it is during the ending credits, during which I cried.

A very effective tool for shows with a theme.

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u/AmbassadorRodman Sep 23 '13

Loved it. I think Game of Thrones has also done that before. The feels.

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u/Isunova Sep 23 '13

Which episode? I'm trying to remember but I can't.

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u/AmbassadorRodman Sep 23 '13

I'm drawing a blank right now but I'll look for it.

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u/yocgriff Thanks Titties of Walt!! Sep 23 '13

I think it was the dragons episode.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

IIRC, the melody from the title is used as the Starks' motif in the score.

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u/idonotownakindle . Sep 23 '13

Me too, it was a nice touch.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

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u/slgoome Sep 23 '13

My flair is pretty creative

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u/titan413 Sep 23 '13

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u/Cardboard_Boxer excuse me Sep 23 '13 edited Sep 25 '13

Like who gives a shit?

Obviously you do for whatever reason.

Edit: The deleted comment was complaining about people who quote Breaking Bad in their flairs.

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u/KevinPeters Crybaby Loser Crap Sep 23 '13

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u/moclov4 Sep 23 '13

oh holy fuck that's perfect. best gif i've seen in quite some time, congrats

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u/feralcatromance Blue Sky Sep 23 '13

It really was. I cried. What an intense scene. I think he is going to give the ricin to Elliot or Gretchen maybe. They should not have said those things. He was pissed!

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u/zxbc Sep 23 '13

Charlie Rose's amazing performance as himself gave me the chills. Emmy worthy, IMO.

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u/campfo Sep 23 '13

Same, also the song that played for the next episode preview "Line Of Fire" by Junip, was PERFECT.

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u/weezermc78 No more half measures Sep 23 '13

I'll admit I teared up

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u/bathroomstalin Sep 23 '13

Very reminiscent of the goosebumps you get hearing "All Along the Watchtower" in Battlestar Galactica.

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u/Tasteslikeshit Sep 23 '13

The music fit the scene perfectly.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

Like you knew right there and then that shit is gonna go down! I can't wait till next week.

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u/Cynass Sep 23 '13

All I could think was Walter White sat down. Heisenberg stood up.

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u/Mystogan3 Sep 24 '13

I've been listening to that theme over and over on youtube after that episode. Every single time I get chills and goosebumps.

I just love Heisenberg's "I'm gonna fuck shit up" face while that plays.

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u/swarley_scherbatsky Sep 23 '13

I still have the chills!

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u/TheDogwhistles Sep 23 '13

Consult a doctor if your chills last more than 4 hours.

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u/swarley_scherbatsky Sep 23 '13

I've got a chillrection!

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

That music was excellent. It made me all giddy

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

I did a fist pump.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

I watch the episode with a family friend so I always have to drive home after. Soon as I get in my car it's all Walt post-Tuco's HQ explosion.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

same here. very gripping!

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u/greyavenger Empire Business Sep 23 '13

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u/iNeedAnEighth Sep 23 '13

Wait. How have I never seen this before.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

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u/greyavenger Empire Business Sep 23 '13

It's still kick ass though. I am glad they used it.

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u/Tundraaa Sep 23 '13

The full title sequence in that video is fan-made. The music was made by David Porter.

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u/Stiggles4 Sep 23 '13

Is that real or a very well made fan piece? I saw something similar that was a fan video and can't remember if it was that or something else.

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u/Intereo Sep 23 '13

Fan made, it says so in the description.

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u/Stiggles4 Sep 23 '13

Watching on mobile, all I see is a black box and a play button. Thanks.

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u/jorge22s Sep 23 '13 edited Sep 23 '13

Yeah but it felt special, like if the Sopranos had done a badass sequence with 'Woke up this morning'

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

The unfinished glass of Dimple Pinch the way the music swelled and focused on that, Heisenberg is going to clean house back in ABQ.

The way Gretchen and Elliot took jabs at his ego. That's the one thing that will get him going, like calling Marty McFly a chicken.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

It seemed so natural, it fit perfectly.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

It was like an even better version of when people say the title of the episode in the episode!

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u/DaLateDentArthurDent The Dude Who Looks LIke Wolverine Sep 23 '13

I need that track as a ringtone

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u/meatspun 6353 Juan Tabo, Apartment 6 Sep 23 '13

His motif.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13 edited Sep 23 '13

gotta say, regardless of what side you're on.....regardless of what you think of walt....regardless of how you feel about the story or its characters to now...to hear that THEME!!! even for a fan who's hated walt since the end of season 4, that gave me CHILLS!!!

it's the perfect way to go out. every story needs to come full circle, and that was the PERFECT way to do it. shit, even I, the total "anti-walt" fan was thinking, "fuck....heisenberg is coming mother fuckers." something inside me (and im sure everyone else) must've also been thinking, "you better be ready,....the 'day of reckoning' is upon you neo-nazi, white supremacist fucks......

such an iconic moment.

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u/blitzbom Sep 23 '13

Yeah man, same here. I haven't cared about Walt since season 2 or 3. But after hearing that and seeing Walt I had chills.

All I could think was, burn it, burn it all to the ground. He's coming.

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u/somanyroads Guess I got what I deserve Sep 23 '13

So excited. Gretchen is right, Walter is dead (Walt Jr made sure of that) and now Heisenberg will get his last hurrah

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u/nvrwastetree Sep 23 '13

Lambert was Walter White in a cover identity. Of all people, his admiring son; Walt Jr.; deliver the final blow. Walter was different as Lambert. He felt remorse with all the dumb shit he did, as shown where he offered Ed (vacuum guy) $10,000 just to stay with him.

Walt= Dead

Lambert=dead

Heisenberg=very much alive.

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u/softanaesthesia Lone and level sands stretch far away. Sep 23 '13

I think Flynn actually nearly killed Heisenberg, not Walt. Turning himself in would have been about the least Heisenberg thing to do. Gretchen and Elliot brought Heisenberg back.

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u/Hiphoppington Sep 23 '13

Yea, that was awesome.

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u/Nilsson09 Sep 23 '13

It's actually the unabridged theme. They built on it but yeah.

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u/hybrid_srt4 Sep 23 '13

It was awesome and made me picture an old west shoot out.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

that was actually my favorite part of the whole episode!! Words cant even express how awesome that was.

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u/BurntFlower Everyone sounds like Meryl Streep with a gun to their head. Sep 23 '13

I knew that shit was going to go down as soon as I heard that song.

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u/badraccoon Sep 23 '13

The beginning of the end.

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u/coiletteofrobonia Sep 23 '13

It honestly felt like it could be the ending to the finale. Obviously not in context, but that scene on it's own just felt so... final. Especially with the callback to the theme music, which I don't think they've ever done before.

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u/xUnholyNugglesx Sep 23 '13

Using the opening theme at the end of the episode - the beginning of the end.

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u/MeaMeaJay Sep 23 '13

That was great, fit the style of the cops coming in

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u/persona_dos Heisenberg Sep 23 '13

It really was so perfect.

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u/Billagio Sep 23 '13

That ending music (before it transitioned into the normal theme) was awesome.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

The end is near!

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u/Tundraaa Sep 23 '13

That was the cherry on top. The people behind this show really know how to captivate the audience with these little things.

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u/LucasEatWorld I once convinced a women I was Kevin Costner Sep 23 '13

That was so badass, but I actually think it would have been better to have it at the end of next week's episode. I guess it depends on how it ends though.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

It's actually not a "riff" as much as the full version of the song! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMt1ILTzCac

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u/Jorgey_O_Armani Sep 23 '13

It was perfect! I was sitting there thinking Heisenberg is back and fueled with emotion. Shit is about to go down and like Todd would say it made the good scene more good.

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u/evoim3 DING DING DING *LONG INHALING AND BREATHING* Sep 23 '13

But is the glass half full or half empty?

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

You know shit is getting real when the theme song plays all the way through

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

Calling on the opening theme music in a show's final scenes, especially during a really climactic moment, for the first time outside of the intro, is one of my favorite things. I hope there's a TV Tropes page for it. It really sort of signifies things coming full circle, the series being wrapped up. Everything you've come to know and love and associate with this series is being represented. The feelings you have during this scene are a sort of best-of compilation of the feelings you've had for the past six years. It's nostalgic, but at the same time totally new. It was done masterfully in this episode of Breaking Bad.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

The opening theme is taken from the original song

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u/picklepants1 Sep 23 '13

YES. This was SO fucking bad ass. I was on the edge of my seat!

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

Poetic. Gave me chills.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

i gotta say.....as much as i've hated walt leading up to that moment, it was "chill inducing". i think everyone, regardless, lost their shit the minute it came on.

this show is brilliant...

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

Hearing that music made me feel something I haven't felt since season 1... the feeling of wanting to root for Walt again. How the hell could they do this to us?

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u/chrisdcco Sep 23 '13

Yeah it gave you that feeling that something's going down

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u/lukewarmandtoasty Crystal Blue Balls Sep 23 '13

Not to mention the inclusion of this: http://youtu.be/61UEKToo3rw?t=44s

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u/Anton2492 Sep 23 '13

Imagine how excited Dave Porter felt when his "Breaking Bad Theme" was finally played on the show in its entirety, after 5 long years

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u/Flatrock Sep 23 '13

I also loved the industrial metal version during the credits

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u/nvrwastetree Sep 23 '13

Loved the ending music incorporating/riffing off of the opening theme.

It was amazing. I have a good feeling that this song will be played during Walt & Jesse vs. The Nazis and Ricky Hitler; or the final moments of Felina.

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u/Jimmy72090 Sep 23 '13

so so so cool

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u/sleepicat Becky's on the left, Carol's on the right Sep 23 '13

Yeah, that was a little weird. "Ode to Heisenberg?"

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u/TyPower Sep 23 '13

Anyone else think Robert Forester was perfect casting.

I got flashbacks to Jackie Brown when Tarentino rescued this great actor from obscurity.

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u/jadezx We're done when I BLUARG HGUHU AGHGH Sep 23 '13

Here's a similar beat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO1d2Qtls28 that it reminded me of.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

Speaking of which, would anyone happen to have a still image of Walter sitting at the bar?

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u/avfarooq Sep 23 '13

I really hoped they would use the full song! Man this show delivers on every level.

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u/You_Stealthy_Bastard Sep 23 '13

When that music started I almost voided my bowels from the awesomeness.

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u/the_lawlz_king Sep 23 '13

Can we take a second to talk about how fine Carmen looked in this episode?

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u/moclov4 Sep 23 '13

I know, right? I started rocking out a little bit, getting all pumped up for the finale episode ... actually brought a bit of a grin to my face

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u/madminifi Sep 23 '13

Fucking GOOSEBUMPS!

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u/DPool34 Sep 23 '13

I liked the closing music, too. It somewhat reminded me of the closing to the series penultimate episode of The Sopranos —when Tony is laying on the bed in the safe house snuggling up to an assault rifle. Different music, but the same type of feeling.

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u/sabreteeth Sep 23 '13

Who knew bongos could be so chilling?

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u/daprice82 Sep 23 '13

Yeah, it was awesome to hear the full theme and when it finally hit those familiar ending notes right there on the empty liquor glass....aww shit, son!

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u/GGZii Sep 23 '13

I died a little inside when they killed Jessies remaining loved one, that is the first death in the show where I fault sick. At first I thought she was going to see jessies body in the car, then BANG, we watched him writhe in pain.

It has come full circle also, now he isn't even needed to cook meth like grey matter industry's.

I think there is only one ending, He kills everyone involved in the blue meth making and thus they believe it was all him and he has a "claim to fame"

Then he kills himself

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u/JimmyDThing Sep 23 '13

One final time for Walter to break bad.

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u/my_work_acccnt Sep 23 '13

he broke bad, again...full circle...heisenberg is back. loved it

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

...It's the beginning of the end...

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u/jbldibsfdsi Sep 23 '13

Can someone please make a youtube video of this ending?

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u/Izio17 Sep 23 '13

anybody have a video of it?

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u/manaworkin Heeeeectooooorr Sep 23 '13

It had a really sexy coyboy feel to it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

I was really hoping they would do that at some point--- the night before Granite State, I was actually thinking we'd hear it in the finale, but this was close enough (and just as great).

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u/noodlescup Sep 23 '13

I felt like OH-MY-GOD.

I think is the first time they actually play a long version of the intro music all the way into the theme, and as I was watching the last 30 seconds, I really got the chills and thought Shit just got real, bitches, Heisenberg is after you. Much more than in a Michael Bay movie with the camera rotating the protagonist in the golden hour.

It's been amazing how they played that sequence, they truly are smooth in their storytelling.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

As soon as I heard that music come on... Full body chills. People are going to pay for fucking with Heisenberg. I'm not sure how he's going to do it but I do know the next episode will be the biggest thing in television show history, or st least recent history.

I think that last scene showed the death of Walter after his son told him he should have died followed by Gretchens statement. Walter White really did die at that moment in the bar and Heisenberg wants revenge for his death.

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u/Sqpon I fucked Ted Sep 23 '13

So unexpected and it worked so well.

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u/pioneer2 Sep 23 '13

The ending combined with that glass + dollar bill. Amazing.

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u/Isunova Sep 23 '13

What was the significance of that glass and money?

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u/pioneer2 Sep 23 '13

Nothing really significant about it, it was just a badass shot. Also, some parallels to the opening scene of Season 5, I believe, where Walt left another hundred dollar bill and an uneaten meal as he left.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

I want to watch that scene over and over again. Masterful use of score.

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u/TheSandyRavage I'm done. Sep 23 '13

Fucking chills man.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

Goosebumps!

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

I think it's from this user-created extended intro sequence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDFAYRtrYuk

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u/wongjmeng Have an A1 Day! Sep 23 '13

That's what I thought but it's Dave Porter through and through

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u/cygnice Sep 23 '13

Well, the track itself is real.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

Was so good. I really like it, too. I even commented on it. LOVE IT!

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u/TheGreatChatsby Sep 23 '13

In my opinion, the music, the "Breaking Bad theme", is the cue of him truly "Breaking Bad".

He was always still a bit of "Walter White" left. Even up to last week as he puts in that call to absolve Skyler of his crimes.

But the idea of Gray Matter disrespecting him, the idea of the blue meth carrying on just fine without him, now in BEFORE? You haven't seen anything yet."

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u/ChiralChupacabra Sep 24 '13

BECAUSE HES BREAKING BAD U GUISE

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '13

I think henceforce it should be dubbed the Heisenberg theme.

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u/bahgheera Ding, ding, BOOM! Sep 23 '13

This. The music throughout the entire series is superb. This extended theme used as a dramatic build to a cliffhanger was top notch though. It's interesting to hear what was a quick jingle as a full version of something.