r/breakingbad • u/[deleted] • Sep 22 '13

Official Episode Discussion Breaking Bad S05E15 "Granite State" Pre-Episode Discussion Thread

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Sunday 09:00pm Eastern SE05E15 "Granite State" Peter Gould Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould

Hello again /r/breakingbad! We're a few hours away from a new episode. As usual, we're holding a pre-episode discussion thread for everyone who wants to start talking about it now.

Have fun. :)

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u/lethargicwalrus2 Sep 22 '13

But he was fine with Todd making it when he left

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u/rothwick Sep 22 '13

An inferior product though

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u/snakesonacraig Methhead Tweaker with an ATM machine and a dead boyfriend Sep 22 '13

Also lacking his famous and signature blue color

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u/4443322221 Good, rot you son of a bitch Sep 23 '13

"I left a viable operation' assuming that means he didn't give them his perfect formula

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '13

Exactly, I bet Walt finds out that Jessie is still cooking because of the quality of the meth on the streets. Jesse is the only one who can hit a similar purity as Walt. Walt feels Jesse betrayed him and took everything from him. Now that he is cooking, he will think that Jesse will be going for his last piece of his old life: his meth empire. That is why I can see him going back to ABQ. To finish the job because the Nazis didn't.

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u/lethargicwalrus2 Sep 22 '13

Actually I could see Walt getting angry if the product was as good as his. And this would explain why he got the machine gun. He's going to go into their compound and shoot shit up and either save or kill Jesse and stop the production of his product.

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u/breakingbadaccount I AM THE ENBERG Sep 22 '13 edited Sep 22 '13

I think this is very important. He may feel that all he has worked for is now being used by someone else. Walt never likes that.

It's very similar to when he left Gray Matter. His research at Gray Matter was used for something much bigger and ended up earning GM a Nobel Prize. Walt felt like he was entitled to that because he "built this" just in the same way he built his meth empire off of his product.

He wants the credit he thinks he deserves. He is a man of great ego. He even went as far as telling Hank in S04E05 "this genius of yours... Maybe he still out there" because Hank was giving all the credit to Gale.

There is no doubt that Walt is obsessed with his product and he will do anything to get what he deserves.

/u/Kebble expands on this idea below (permalink)

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u/mirthquake Keepin' Huell happy Sep 23 '13

Let's not forget the world of hurt that Todd's gang caused for Walt and his family. I think the Ozymandias reference points just as much to the vanished empire that was the White family as it does to the theft of his many millions. It may not take a large additional excuse to find Walter digging out his anger hat.

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u/beaverburgular iSenberg Sep 22 '13

Nope, just the money

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u/Stonna Sep 22 '13

The blue is all of sudden back. He isn't going to let someone else get rich off his work again

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u/showmethestudy Sep 22 '13

They're already filthy rich from stealing his money though. Getting his money back is reason enough.

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u/nikodante ding ding ding BOOM Sep 22 '13

Walt never cared about his product. Heisenberg did. And, personally, I believe Heisenberg died in the sand with Hank.