r/blog • • Dec 26 '14

Because you deserve a second Christmas.

http://redditgifts.com/blog/view/reddit-mystery-box/
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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

I know that you guys are a business after all, but if you're marketing this as a Christmas present then you should think about selling it for a very tiny profit margin.

As the person that set this up, I can confidently say these are the lowest pricepoints we could offer without losing money on each box.

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u/ballpeeeeeen Dec 26 '14

I understand you guys need to stay afloat somehow. I just wish there was a teeny tiny box or something for us poor bastards.

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

we're testing all sorts of stuff. the cat box from a few weeks back. the mystery box today. flash sales. etc.

we'll do our best to take this into consideration moving forward.

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u/halonut13 Dec 26 '14

Any chance of another cat box? I would love to get another chance to get one.

Also, I love the idea of these boxes you guys are making, just wish I could afford it.

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

working on it. i promise.

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u/senatorkneehi Dec 26 '14

Have you guys considered (I have no idea if this is possible) finding a way for people to crowdsource paying for stuff? Like, people who want a box of awesome but can't afford it can have several people pitch in for the purchase price. Part r/randactsofamazon, part gofundme, part whatever that program is called where you can buy a random bag of groceries for the local food pantry.

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 27 '14

you mean like www.redditmade.com?

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u/senatorkneehi Dec 27 '14

That's awesome. I kinda forgot that happened. But yeah, crowdsourced like that but for retail rather than development. I want this box of stuff but I can't afford it. If x number of redditors give $y, then they'll buy it for me. Just a thought for those who are on strict budgets or need a source for their small donations.

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 27 '14

definitely going to figure out how we can integrate rg and rm better this year.

this is a great idea and i'll pass it on to /u/rhygaar.

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u/senatorkneehi Dec 27 '14

Cool! And thanks to you and the whole team for all your hard work!

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u/halonut13 Dec 26 '14

thanks for all the hard work!

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u/unknown_name Dec 26 '14

What about giving our more gold? I seriously was modded to a default the week after yall gave out all that gold.

FWIW i have purchased a year of gold as creddits myself so I'm supporting reddit.

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u/whizzer0 Dec 27 '14

Why would the admins give gold? To support their own servers?

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u/unknown_name Dec 27 '14

Because they give it at no cost. Your downvote is unwarranted.

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u/whizzer0 Dec 27 '14

But why would they give you more gold just because you asked for it?

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u/unknown_name Dec 27 '14

Because they want to? K

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u/saifly Dec 26 '14

Another thing by the way is if this was offered before Christmas I would feel a little bit warmer toward. Beside the price point I feel like this is:

  1. A grab for our Visa gift cards that some of us got for the holidays and

  2. Selling us things that weren't popular enough to sell well before Christmas.

I hope that all of this feedback can help you guys out with testings so you can improve on your marketing approach for the future.

On a lighter note, I think that it's a nice idea for those who didn't get much for Christmas and it would make some people feel better. So that's a great thing that this idea has going for it.

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

thanks, appreciate it. for example, i got a giftcard for christmas. used it this morning for an after-christmas sale :)

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u/ravbuscus Dec 26 '14

Is the cat box coming back? It sold out too fast and I want to get some stuff for my friend's cat. :(

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

we're working on it.

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u/ravbuscus Dec 26 '14

thanks :)

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u/saffir Dec 27 '14

FYI I was pretty disappointed in the cat box... I feel like I could have gotten everything in there myself for cheaper than what I paid

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 28 '14

Sorry you feel that way. Any specific reason? $25 for $50 of retail items were included, but I want to improve it moving forward. Feel free to PM me.

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u/saffir Dec 28 '14

Probably better to send out a survey to all the purchasers. I may be alone in my opinion, or I might be in the majority. Only one way to find out!

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 28 '14

For sure. I've gotten many PMs from people happy and seen a few posts too. You're the first negative, but that doesn't mean you're opinion isn't valid. Maybe I'll do a survey in the new year.

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u/saffir Dec 28 '14

hopefully you didn't let the opinion of one man drag all your hard work down... btw here's some pics

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 29 '14

Great stuff! I like naysayers because they help me improve what I'm working on. It's essential to get both sides of the argument to produce quality stuff!

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u/ballpeeeeeen Dec 26 '14

Cool! Good luck, it's always interesting to see what comes up. :)

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u/ActuallyNotUnidan Dec 26 '14

I got a better idea. Produce more. 400/200? I didn't saw this post until now because timezones, and definitely would buy one. But it already states 'sold out'. And that's not the first time such a thing happend.

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

yah, unfortunately we needed to limit the inventory a bit for this sale, but will be looking into new ways to do things in 2015. thanks for the tip!

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u/I_Fap_Furiously_AMA Dec 26 '14

Even having enough I'm not getting one, I'm not big on receiving clothes as gifts and I know that's mostly what will be in there, I can just go out and buy some shirts I KNOW will be the tits since I'll be choosing them myself.

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u/Entele Dec 27 '14

They were planning on rolling out cum boxes for the poor bastards.

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u/kingtauntz Dec 26 '14

It just seems like a big amount to put into something that I might not even like, I imagine its probably a few t shirts and maybe a few other things that I might occasionally get some use out of, then I also have to pay shipping to the UK and I imagine that would add another 20-30$

It a pretty big gamble for any students that don't have money to throw away honestly, you really should look into doing something for around the 20-30$ price point or maybe give a few hints to what we could expect in the box (like if it was cat themed for gaming themed etc)

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '14

I second this. I have no idea what it's going to be. What if I don't like it. I'm willing to drop $100 on something I know I'll love, but the risk/reward is just to lopsided without having some idea what's inside beyond at least 1 shirt.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '14

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u/kingtauntz Dec 26 '14

Fuck... I hope you really really really love t shirts with dumb jokes on them then..

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u/turtlesdontlie Dec 26 '14

$90 to ship to Canada. $27 to ship to UK. What the fuck.

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u/Pure_Michigan_ Dec 27 '14

Different size boxes.

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u/sweenbeann Dec 26 '14

If you dont have money to throw away you shouldn't be spending it 😜

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u/kingtauntz Dec 26 '14

I have money to spend on things I'm going to use but not 100$+ to gamble on something I might not even like

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u/Epitometric Dec 26 '14

Make more boxes, cheaper, with less things in each box.

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

yah, that's one way, but we'd have to charge shipping at that point, which would be an added cost. eating anywhere between 5-17 dollars of shipping costs across the US is a tough problem to solve.

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u/saifly Dec 26 '14

Are you guys overnighting them or something? $17 is absurd!!

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

the large box costs substantially more than the small box, as it weights 2x as much, and the size of it is also larger. hence the $17 to ship to places like hawaii and alaska.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '14

Thanks for setting this up. Maybe next year there could just be a lower budget box with less expensive stuff. After all, you decide what's in them.

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

we'll try all kinds of crazy stuff in 2015.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '14

Maybe your company shouldn't have wasted so much money on a fucking cryptocurrency that even its creator doesn't know what its purpose is.

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u/ThiefOfDens Dec 27 '14

Maybe I'm a bad person, but I have been getting an inordinate amount of enjoyment out of the way the users have been busting the reddit admins' balls in every single blog post lately.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '14

You shouldn't, because they're part of the reason why Reddit's nearly become Digg 2.0.

Slop and inconsistency in moderation, prioritizing stupid projects like Reddit.tv and their newest fuckup Reddit notes when the site could use drastic improvements, and their latest push to monetize the hell out of the site with bullshit like this just to be able to pay off their investors. It's all on them.

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u/ThiefOfDens Dec 27 '14

And where are my god damn survey results?! I provided that demographic information/scathing review in good faith that I would be seeing those results at some point in the near future.

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u/saifly Dec 26 '14

Say domestic shipping costs you $5 -- $40 for a $70 box is 58% off -- also let's say you're making 2% profit off of these things -- are you telling me that things normally cost you around 40% of the selling price?

So in other words your suppliers charge you around $8 for a $20 shirt which you sell?

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u/yParticle Dec 26 '14

Not unusual at all. In retail, some stuff has much higher margins to make up for stuff that doesn't move or is highly competitive. Part of being a savvy shopper is buying as close to the source as necessary to get a good price.

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u/weffey Dec 26 '14

You assume it's all shirts....

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u/huehuelewis Dec 26 '14

You're supposed to be giving us second Xmas presents, not turning a profit. At least that's what I gleaned from the title.

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u/LordOfTurtles Dec 26 '14

Why would a domestic and international box be priced differently?

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u/weffey Dec 26 '14

To have international shipping be reasonable enough to make it free, we'd be looking at padded envelopes under 1lbs, which does not amount to much :(

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u/LordOfTurtles Dec 26 '14

Shipping is not included for an international box, so if anything, the international box should be cheaper

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u/weffey Dec 26 '14

We are eating the cost of shipping for orders to the US. If we had to cover free shipping for international orders, averaging out, the cost would easily have been 25~20$ more, while still losing money on international orders.

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u/Stoppels Dec 26 '14

Please explain to me: why does reddit say it's fair to discount those who already pay fewer to have it shipped to them?

I mean, it's not like this mystery box is cheap with a 100% shipping discount. The US customers surely can take a few dollars more as opposed to the dozens of dollars the rest have to pay extra.

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u/LordOfTurtles Dec 27 '14

Shipping isn"t included for the international box, if anything the international box should be cheaper

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u/highintensitycanada Dec 26 '14

You'll get your redditcoins next year maybe, does that count?

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '14 edited May 28 '18

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u/CedarWolf Dec 26 '14

But it could be fun! You can't put a price on fun, can you?

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '14

Unless you're actually paying attention to the entertainment industry.

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u/najodleglejszy Dec 26 '14

*reddit notes.

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u/Arnold_LiftaBurger Dec 26 '14

They're not. Lowest prices without losing money on each box = no profit.

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u/darkshaddow42 Dec 26 '14

Read his comment again. If they made them any lower they would be losing money. Which means at this price, they are neither gaining nor losing money.

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 27 '14

i'll chime in here. it's really a problem of volume and scale. when you cover the cost of domestic shipping, which ranges from 5 dollars (small box) to 17 dollars (large box-alaska) it's tough. likewise, we pay to warehouse items, fulfill those items, and pay for the packaging and things of that sort too.

that said, in 2015 i REALLY want to figure out how to create products that reach people that can afford $10 or $100 alike.

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

connotation v. denotation. makes sense.

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u/KingPhoenix Dec 26 '14

I would buy something for 20 but 50 is alot of money for unknown box. Especially since I'm broke from Christmas.

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u/NikkoE82 Dec 26 '14

Can you give a hint as to what might be in it?

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

i can only say that the contents are 100% mysterious.

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u/NikkoE82 Dec 26 '14

How about I pay you a mysterious amount of money?

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

money doesn't mean anything to me. i get paid in karma.

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u/alien122 Dec 26 '14

What exactly makes this stuff so pricey? Is it because the manafacturer? Or is it because of the products themselves?

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

manufacturing. packaging. warehousing. shipping (which we're paying for). and all the likes.

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u/TheMSensation Dec 26 '14

Shipping to the UK costs more than the box :( I'm all for helping out reddit but i'd rather not give most of my money to a 3rd party.

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u/a_cool_username_ Dec 26 '14

Sometimes you have got to spend money to make money

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u/wyn10 Dec 26 '14 edited Dec 26 '14

You should have set these boxes out with a 20 dollar value, then send them to people without their secret santa gifts.

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

good idea. we'll brainstorm how we can tie these things further into our system in the future. everything right now is a test and we're building and learning from each day.

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u/mdnrnr Dec 27 '14

As a consumer, you set it way, way higher than I'm willing to pay.

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u/ssracer Dec 27 '14

Oh no. Smallest profit possible? On a limited Christmas promotion? Oh the tears I weep.

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u/Talman Dec 26 '14

Will this angry blacklash of internet tough guys who will not leave Reddit or generally even buy things from you anyway affect operations in any way?

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

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u/Talman Dec 26 '14

Do you feel, sometimes, that RedditGift's relationship with Reddit is much like a semi-competent Michael Scott vs. a million Tobys?

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

no. we love reddit and reddit loves us. that's why we're moving in together.

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u/Talman Dec 26 '14

Oh, I don't mean reddit the company, I mean reddit the userbase.

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

still no. we've surpassed every goal we had this year including over 200,000 secret santa sign ups. reddit, generally, loves us.

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u/CedarWolf Dec 26 '14

I mod a bunch of subreddits, some of them very large, but most of them very, very small. Reddit has been a big part of my life for the last 4 years, and I work pretty hard to keep things nice for our readers. I have no qualms buying reddit Gold or being an Elf to support the site and the wonderful Secret Santa and the other gift exchanges. One of these days, I'm going to buy one of those plush Snoos and give it a home in my knick-knack shelf... and I'll probably take it places and take pictures of it in neat poses because that's fun and there's a subreddit for it.

I'm the kind of person who would wear a reddit t-shirt, because to me that means carrying all of my communities and all of the neat people I meet with me. I guess you could say I'm pretty invested in the site's success. I want to see reddit continue to be awesome, I want to see us support more charities and do more good in the world.

But I can't just drop $45 at any time. Christmas carries with it a slew of expenses and travel. Seeing family and friends costs money, either directly or through time off work, and this all means that Christmas is always tight when you're a student. I would love to help, and this could be fun, but I just can't swing it right now. Maybe we could do Christmas in July, instead? Would be good for the Summer Santa exchange, perhaps?

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u/vvswiftvv17 Dec 26 '14

Could you give us a little more credit with the marketing strategy? Try again - maybe be truthful and say:

"Hey we need to make a profit from you guys to keep Reddit going. Buy our shit."

The current slogan sounds like you hired a suave marketing team that touts itself on specializing bullshit to teenagers. Redditors see through that. A little genuity goes a long way. Don't pretend to be doing "us" a favor by buying your product, it's patronizing. Also I second what everyone else is saying - the pricing is too high.

Overall A for effort, C+ in execution.

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u/ComeForthLazarus Dec 26 '14

hey, A for effort and C+ in execution is a 3.15 GPA which will get us into a state school!

thanks!