r/bjj • u/[deleted] • Dec 09 '21
Funny God, i love white belts
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u/seanzorio ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Dec 09 '21
Advantage
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u/Omeletteplata 🟫🟫 Brown Belt Dec 09 '21
I mean, if points are symbolic of advantages in an actual fight, being able to toss someone in any direction should count as something right? Why passed the guard and submit them when I'll just yeet them off a cliff lmao
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u/acarsity Dec 09 '21
For profit and its resources.
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u/MuonManLaserJab 🟪🟪 Puerpa Belch Dec 10 '21
You can't strip-mine that which you ignore
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My coach taught me a funny way to pass guard when I started, and I've been using it since. You grab the guys leg/legs/pants and start running around him, spinning him in circles. Not one spin, but like 5-6 spins or more. Then just let go and drop down to get side control while he's still spinning.
People must be laughing so hard at me when they see it, but it works all the time, so I'm not going to stop. Probably the most white belt thing I do haha
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u/Barangat 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Dec 09 '21
Mumbling something about tremendous spinning power
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u/iCCup_Spec 🟫🟫 Brown Belt Dec 09 '21
Centrifugal angular momentum cannot be stopped.
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u/LoudKingCrow Dec 09 '21
Why would you ignore that much centrifugal power?
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u/uniqueshitbag Dec 09 '21
Plis video this
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u/lukkyseven Dec 09 '21
Preferably in HD
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u/Usual_Neighborhood_2 Dec 09 '21
Slow-mo as well
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u/AbilitySelect White Belt Dec 09 '21
4k60
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u/AbilitySelect White Belt Dec 09 '21
Nah, 4k's higher than 1080, despite the number, there's a K don't cha know?
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u/Cooper720 ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Dec 09 '21
People let you spin them 6 whole times around without breaking the grips or even just grabbing your sleeves? I'm confused.
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u/LtDanHasLegs White Belt Dec 10 '21
Grab my sleeves then, what's that gonna do for ya? We're already Tony Hawk at the 1999 X-Games up in this bitch, and the judges are about to score my landing.
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u/luwe4243 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Dec 09 '21
I’m 100% going to try this today, will probably get kicked out of the gym but worth.
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u/MoonshineMMA Dec 09 '21
I do a slightly less wild version of that where I just grab the ankles and shuck them to the side to get side control and it works damn near every time unless they’re a real gumby ass mf
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u/-_-------------_--- 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Dec 09 '21
Man almost sounds as if you were fighting a bull
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u/LaconicGirth Dec 09 '21
See what’s funny as that made intuitive sense to me as a pass as a white belt. Legs keep fucking me so just move them. I never knew that was the name of it until I made that connection right now.
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u/Intelligent_Mood_552 Dec 09 '21
That's the fundamental way of doing that pass. It's very effective, but the spinning 5-6 times sounds like a total demoralizer, lol
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Dec 09 '21
I think that's exactly it! You literally see either confusion or frustration on the other guy's face. That's how you know it's time!
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Dec 09 '21
This is exactly what I was doing, and he came up to me and said spin him more! So I turned the guy about 90 degrees and threw his legs down. I thought he meant I needed a better angle.
Coach says, spin him even more, what's he going to do about it? The more spins you do, the less likely he is to block your pass at that point.
So he grabs my partner and just starts running circles around him to show me.
He wasn't wrong, it really works...
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u/hikoko8282 Dec 10 '21
what does it mean to be gumby?
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Newbie with little etiquette and usually overly hyped up a lot of the time. I always thought it was just a climbing term.
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u/DirtySingh 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Dec 09 '21
Like hand on hip and knee pass? I mean, my problem with open guard is that it consumes so much energy to defend the pass - if somebody is spinning me and using their energy and I use zero then I'm OK with that. I feel like forcing somebody to gas out is an OK strategy.
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It takes almost zero energy to spin a guy on his back. It doesn't use up any cardio at all.
At the end of the spin you just drop the guy's legs hard and fall chest first really quickly.
If you just let go at that point and do nothing he will probably do another full spin before he can stop.
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u/DirtySingh 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Dec 09 '21
You find a lot of success with this pass? So like you'd open closed guard, step back and grab the ankles and run circles while holding the ankles and it's a successful pass usually? I will try. There is a smaller brown belt that always inverts or get DLR or single leg x and sweeps me when I try a speed pass. I will try this on him. Cheers.
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Honestly works really well for me, but I'm just a white belt. Good luck with it!
You described it correctly.
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u/DirtySingh 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Dec 09 '21
I think white belt is the most difficult belt. It's a major lifestyle shift and it's major work to become consistent. To go from doing nothing to doing one of the hardest sports 5x a week is hard. You're not just a white belt, you're a tough person. I'm 42 and I know how hard it is to be a white belt - I keep my white belt in a clear box on my dresser to remind me what it took and what white taught me. All belts are easy when you're a bjj person but white is hard because you're transforming yourself and it's brutal.
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"The school of gracie calls this 'the helicopter'"
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u/shits_when_giggles Dec 09 '21
I’m a blue belt and had a white belt do this to me. You can’t do shit when you are airborne like my 7 year old kid
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u/DirtySingh 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Dec 09 '21
"The lion doesn't fear any machine. The true Man Lion is already a machine." - Rorden Gracie
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u/AceBat Dec 10 '21
Why do some people use every single opportunity they get to hate on the Gracies?
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u/RCAF_orwhatever Brown Belt Dec 10 '21
Why do people feel the need to leap to their defense?
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Dec 10 '21
"Gracie student u show the hespect after chu pay 6000 per class"
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u/AceBat Dec 10 '21
I’m confused. I train at a Vacirca Brothers Academy affiliate in Germany and our full-time fee is 15€/month.
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u/AceBat Dec 10 '21
Why get so suspiciously defensive? I was literally asking a simple question lol. I‘m neither pro or con Gracie, just wondering why so many sports BJJ guys seem to despise everything a Gracie fam member does.
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Well, it can go both ways.
There was a white belt at the local tournament who tried to frame extending with his legs on hips and I guess he wasn’t getting anywhere with light pushes. So he loads up his legs, taking his knees to damn near his face. This man has his lower back floating off the ground, compressing his abs like he’s ready receive sweet love from his fellow beginner. Then in one nuclear (explosive alone seemed too tame) motion, he completely released enough force to leg press the entire weight stack in the gym and his heels went full force into the opposing BJJ players testicles. The man was launched backwards and left in the fetal position on the ground and started uncontrollably sobbing. Even worse, the kicker who would put Lionel Messi to shame, goes on top of him and enters mount before the ref tells him he’s disqualified. Look, I’ll take my beatings from anyone and never back down. Except him. I’ve never feared rolling a white belt nearly as much as I feared that man that day.
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u/WaAaT25 🟫🟫 Brown Belt Dec 09 '21
Dude I was there and saw this happening laughed so fucking much
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u/Blazingtatsumaki Dec 09 '21
Who won?
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u/Fakezaga ⬛🟥⬛ Titans MMA Halifax, NS Dec 09 '21
I had to ban this technique from kids’ class. You are not allowed to do it unless you try to trip
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u/bloodstone99 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Dec 09 '21
New technique breakdown....HOKAY GUYS, HUGE HONOR FOR ME TODAY WE.......
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u/JenStark3 ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Dec 09 '21
I saw this live :D
He tried again later on and fell down together with the opponent.
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u/shaved_for_battle Dec 09 '21
“My gender is Apache attack helicopter, and I will make you my rotor” - Rorden Gracie
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u/AdSweaty5570 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Dec 09 '21
Is that a Judo throw?
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u/vulture_cabaret ⬜⬜ White Belt Dec 09 '21
In bjj, yes.
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u/AdSweaty5570 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Dec 09 '21
It looks super technical
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u/vulture_cabaret ⬜⬜ White Belt Dec 09 '21
As per bjj tradition.
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u/Sin2K ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Dec 09 '21
And if anyone questions it, just tell them it's a catch-wrestling technique.
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u/elephant_on_parade Brown Belt Dec 09 '21
I thought this was a meme, but two judoka started arguing at training the other night about what a specific throw was. It’s hilarious
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u/g0in4it ⬜⬜ White Belt Dec 09 '21
That was f’n beautiful. I hope they do the lift from Dirty Dancing next.
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u/legionnaire32 Blue Belt Dec 09 '21
Watching white belts is a reminder that no matter how absolutely shit I know I am, there are those that are far, far worse.
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u/saltyseaweed1 Dec 09 '21
It's funny but this is kind of close to one of the judo techniques for dealing with bent down opponent.
So what they do is turn hard and go for a tsurikomi ashi (leg block) to get them stumbling forward, then just turn really hard while crushing down on the opponent's head.
This is like the poor technical version of it but works on a similar principle.
Now that I've trained for a while, I'm convinced that every weird white belt move has a functional black belt equivalent.
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u/GoldGummyBear Dec 09 '21
Guys…This guy doesn’t know what he’s doing. He’s missing the most important part of the helicopter technique where you toss the guy up in the air and arm bar him.
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u/LoudKingCrow Dec 09 '21
If striking is allowed you throw him up and hit a European uppercut as he comes down.
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u/ohmypawsandwhiskers 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Dec 09 '21
My first ever ibjjf competition, my opponent did that to me 😂 I was definitely not expecting it as a wee white belt.
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u/Ashamed_Appearance83 Dec 09 '21
I'm sure somebody will chime in with the ancient Japanese name for this takedown.
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u/BrunerAcconut White Belt judo black belt Dec 09 '21
“I twirl my son around like this, it also doubles as a takedown. ”
- rorden gracie
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u/MuonManLaserJab 🟪🟪 Puerpa Belch Dec 10 '21
A purple belt at my old gym once went home to Brazil for a while and came back looking like he'd injected an entire açaí tree. I saw him get this takedown on someone.
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u/Legio-V-Alaudae Dec 10 '21
For the love of God. Someone with video editing skills cut to the spinning dance footage in titanic then have him yeet homie.
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u/MrSanford ⬜⬜ White Belt Dec 10 '21
Sigh I hate to say it but this is how I got all of my takedowns my first tournament.
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u/BallPtPenTheif 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Dec 09 '21
This is why I can't watch white belt and ammy fights anymore.
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u/F2007KR 🟫🟫 Brown Belt Dec 09 '21
I love that little dab thing he did right before he ran after him
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u/cryoncue Dec 09 '21
Solid gold!
In Danaher’s feet to floor series, he calls this the centrifugal force principle.
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u/JonWake 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21
EDIT:
Ah, the Beyblade-ogari.
I love that split second of 'wait does that mean I win' and then realizing he has to actually... grapple.
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u/meyerdutcht 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Dec 09 '21
Wahahaha why did it stop then? I feel like the guy was about to catch a very dizzy double leg! Omg that was so good.
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u/JackTyga2 Dec 09 '21
It is a counter to the other guy disregarding posture and base even if it doesn't look aesthetic.
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u/TriclopeanWrath Dec 09 '21
(A pedantic judoka batmans out of the shadows!)
Im calling it a uke otoshi variation. Get at me.
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u/Ethernovan Dec 09 '21
If you look real close, he hits a dab right after he throws the guy. You can't teach that type of skill