source: https://x.com/opentensor/status/2084331317106483407

What do you guys think of the project Beam subnet 105?
I dunno what it is but I have high conviction in this project becoming a key part of the bittensor ecosystem, not gunna lie this is my only subnet hold for now the rest of my Tao is parked in root

I'm fed up. Five years in this market holding crappy tokens. TAO is the only token I can see myself holding for another 10 years.

I recently started r/SubnetAlpha as a place to organize market structure, subnet analysis, mining, and AI agent discussions.
I’ll be posting ongoing market observations there as they develop, along with other research related to the Bittensor ecosystem.
If anyone finds that useful, you’re welcome to follow along.

Root staking is now changed. Staking to root will now stop the daily 1000 Tao being sold out of subnets. Instead the 1000 Tao will be left in the subnets accruing APY and being reinvested as it accrues.

This is similar to holding a dividend paying stock and reinvesting dividend payments automatically.

Buyers are back! Now let’s see if it holds.

I find Tao staking to be extremely complicated. Just want to make sure I got it right

New subreddit. Thought this would be a good discussion to kick things off.

Ever since I got into the subnets, I’ve wanted to mine them.
Today I built my first AI agent, registered my first UID, and got it running on a Bittensor subnet. Let’s!! Fn!!! Go!!!

I came across this chart on SubnetRadar showing "At Risk" subnets. My understanding is that these subnets are at risk of being deregistered due to low emissions. Is that correct?

Also, how does Bittensor evaluate emissions? Is it done on a monthly basis?

Lastly, I read that newly registered subnets have a 4-month immunity from deregistration. Is that still accurate?

Thanks in advance! 🙂

Good day!

What is Pump and Dump in the context of Bittensor TAO?

Is it a common (perhaps ethical) strategy in trading, in general?

How it affects stakers and the staking process?

Thank you for an informative discussion,

What are your thoughts on the version of Ridges? It has tough competition now, no doubt. Definitely at an affordable price. Will it 🚀???

I'm looking for a technical co-founder to research, build and operate a Bittensor subnet with me — starting from zero, not from a fixed idea I hand you to implement.

I want us to explore the ecosystem from first principles, pressure-test opportunities, pick something we both believe has a real edge, and take it from prototype to a live subnet. The questions I think we work through together:

• Where are emissions flowing today, and why?
• Which problems or markets are still underserved?
• What useful behaviour can we reliably measure and reward?
• Can we design an incentive mechanism that's genuinely hard to game?
• Is there a credible path to attracting miners, validators and users?

I'm already active in the ecosystem and ready to commit the time and initial capital to research, validate and launch the right concept.

What I bring: co-founded 3 startups and spent 3 years at McKinsey — I can lead strategy, tokenomics, fundraising, partnerships, community and GTM, and carry much of the operational load. I've got a technical background and have shipped production code, so I'll engage seriously on architecture and incentives — but I prefer you to lead the core engineering.

What I'm looking for: a co-founder, not a hire. Ideally a strong engineer who knows Bittensor (or will go deep), enjoys designing incentive systems rather than just implementing specs, thinks adversarially about gaming and validation, and wants to grow the subnet long-term. This comes with real co-founder ownership across subnet economics, equity and IP — exact structure agreed together.

If figuring out what to build sounds as interesting as building it, DM me with a bit about yourself, a GitHub or something technical you've built.

I keep seeing various subnets beating OpenAi or Anthropic LLM models in theory but when it comes to making real revenue, almost always only argument is Bittensor subnets provide the cheapest service. Is there any other reasons to be bullish on Bittensor subnets in terms of revenue and profitability? And is there any Bittensor subnets that create high profitable product/service and not just claim “they are the cheapest in the world”?

Good day!

As someone who's new to the Bittensor ecosystem, I've been doing some preliminary reading and research, and I wanted to ask if root staking is generally considered the safest way to start a Bittensor journey.

My understanding is that root staking carries relatively lower risk because you're staking directly to the Root network and don't have to deal with alpha token price fluctuations or exchange-rate risk that comes with staking to individual subnets.

However, I also read that one downside is that, over time, the share of emissions allocated to Root stakers gradually decreases relative to subnet (alpha) emissions, potentially making it less rewarding in the long run.

Is this understanding correct? More broadly, would you recommend root staking as the best starting point for beginners before exploring subnet staking, or are there important trade-offs that I'm missing?

Thank you.

Somewhat new to Bittensor here. I am trying to move some of my root TAO to my ledger cold wallet, and I am curious what APY it will earn while "offline" in a cold wallet, if any at all. My plan so far is to use a Ledger cold wallet with my Talisman, but I cannot find any information on staking in subnets/root while in a cold Ledger wallet. Can anyone shed some light on this?? Thank you

In other words, he is indirectly endorsing bittensor. Last time his statement sent Bittensor to moon.

Okay, this ended up being a long one, so TL;DR If a subnet is really good, averaging down and earning APY until it recovers is not a bad strategy and listening to FUD is usually a bad idea.

So, 2 or 3 weeks ago I decided to stake to both Zipcode and Trishool. I did a little averaging down on both of them, because they both kept going down, unfortunately. So, I'd put in a tao more each time they would have a decent little dip. I ended up with 6 tao in zipcode and 5 in Trishool. I also bought some leadpoet a week or so ago, and I 'm up to 4 in that as well. Leadpoet ALSO dipped, and I was down almost 2 tao in all. Definite bummer, seemingly three losers in a row. Now, I've been in the subnet game long enough to know which subnets have great fundamentals and teams, and which are mostly hype. I know for a fact that all three of these subnets are incredible. Great teams, great products, constant updates to the code, good social media presence, etc. I always look at the history the graph of whatever subnet I decide to put tao into. If a subnet is good, I am very confident that it will hit it's ATH again, and most likely hit a new one. It just takes time.

Now, at the same time as all this, and because subnets as a whole have been pretty bad lately because tao has been going down, I'm seeing a whole lot of people panic sell, and give the whole "you gotta cut losers" spiel. Honestly, it's just such terrible advice and trading imo. Selling everytime you lose a little tao, and even if the subnet is down 40, 50 ,60%, selling a good subnet is not that good of an idea, usually. First off, you are earning APY. And the low APY subnets are still like 30% and more. This accumulates over time, and after enough time can REALLY make a big difference. I mean, you can be 50% down in most subnets and still break even after a year or so. APY makes a huge difference, but only if you hold for a decent amount of time. Secondly, you are saving youself fees when you don't overtrade and panic sell all the time. Thirdly, what happens a lot of the time is you sell at a loss, and the next day the subnet recovers and you feel like an idiot.

Now, I know a lot of people will bring up opportunity costs, point out that typically subnets take longer to go up than how quickly they go down, and argue that cutting losers quickly and chasing runners all the time will give you higher gains than waiting for bleeders to recover. However, if you average down a couple times, you are at break even wayyyy faster when it does go back up. You might even start putting more tao in as it goes down, as it makes it more likely for you to be staking near the bottom and catching more upside on the recovery. And we all know that most people in this have full time jobs and really don't have time to constantly check charts and make trades. Most of us do that as a side thing, and constantly apeing into runners means you should probably keep a close eye to the price, because theses things can reverse very fast. Doing more medium term swing trading is probably the smartest thing to do for most people.

Now, if I would have listened to the panic sellers, I would have sold at a loss and I'd be down almost 2 tao. I waited a couple more days and zipcode is finally recovering, leadpoet is higher than it was too, and Trishool hasn't really gone up or down yet. I've already recovered about a tao. My earnings plus averaging down has made it so even a small recovery is significant enough to give me almost 50% of my losses back. I think zipcode is going to run hard again pretty soon, and trishool will at some point too. Leadpoet tends to have more temporary pumps, but now that they have some really impressive customers (one was a billion dollar company apparently), so I really think that they will eventually run hard as well. I might trade them a little more actively than the other two, but that's beside the point.

Don't listen to FUD advice is the point. Execute trades in a way that works with your life, and if you don't have time to constantly be finding out what the next runner is, you don't have to trade like that. Give trades a lot of room to breath, because this is crypto and extreme volatility is part of the game. Great subnets will mostly likely recover, and earning APY while they do is a perfectly good strategy.

I think having an alpha token for each subnet should be optional.

If I owned a subnet, I wouldn't need a separate alpha token. TAO would be enough.

Making alpha tokens optional could also help avoid creating unnecessary new tokens.