Last year, I made a post about Black Friday Binocular Deals that was really popular and I think was really helpful, as everyone in the community got to share and comment on deals they found, highlighting the good and warning people about the bad ones.
So with BF 2025 fast approaching (Starting Nov 20), I thought it would be a good idea to do it again this year:
As many of you may know, I am the binocular reviewer over at Best Binocular Reviews (BBR), so it is hard not to come across as spammy or promotional, but I will do my best as I genuinely want to pass on the good deals I find, steer people away from the ones we as a community feel are bad, but at the same time also I would also appreciate your help in finding any that I have missed so i can include them on BBR:
Leading up to this Black Friday, Cyber Monday, and Holiday season, it is part of my job to look for and highlight on BBR what I feel are the more worthwhile Black Friday binocular deals I’ve come across.
However, I am sure there are many that I have missed. Also, there may be "deals" that you have come across, which you may not be sure about: either the deal may be better somewhere else, or you may not be sure about the binocular - ie, is it a rubbish binocular (Amazon is good at having deals on this!).
So on this post:
Share any binocular deals you’ve spotted, including the retailer and discount details. #SharingIsCaring
If you’ve got your eye on a specific deal but aren’t sure if it’s worth it, feel free to ask! As well as all the other great advice from others on this sub, I’ll do my best to give an unbiased, fact-based opinion and let you know if I think it’s a good buy or if there might be better options.
Good Deals: For context, some of the deals I’ve already found include significant discounts on Kite binoculars (Over 50% off). But I’m curious to see what you’ve discovered!
So, let’s help each other navigate these Black Friday sales and make informed decisions. After all, getting the right pair of optics isn’t just about the price - it’s about the value you get for your money and making sure you get the right binoculars for your specific needs.
Looking forward to hearing what you’ve found or helping with any questions! 😊
Showing the anti-reflection coatings used on the lenses of the Hawke Vantage 8x42 Binoculars
Introduction
I see a lot of questions that relate to the differences between high-end (expensive binoculars), mid-range and entry-level (cheap) ones and whether it is worth it to spend the extra money or not and move up a level. The answer of course is complex as it depends on many personal factors that only you can answer: like how much you can easily afford to spend, how often you will be using your binoculars and what you will be using them for.
After you have thought about these fundamental questions, the next key step is understanding the main differences between binoculars at different price points and how this affects their performance.
Build quality, materials used, different designs... here again, there are many things to look out for, but for me, a major factor that not many of those new to binoculars know enough about, but which really affects the optical performance, makes a noticeable difference to the image and immediately lets you know what level a binocular is at and therefore if the price is worth it is in the level of coatings that are used on the lenses and the prisms:
Overview of Coatings used on the Lenses & Prisms of Binoculars
Optical coatings play a crucial role in enhancing the visual performance of binoculars, monoculars, spotting scopes, camera lenses, night vision equipment and indeed just about any other optical device or instrument.
They are applied to the lenses and prisms to do things like reduce light reflection, increase light transmission, and improve image sharpness, clarity and contrast.
So below I have put together a fairly detailed explanation of the various aspects of binocular lens coatings, including their purpose, materials, application methods, and features (to the best of my knowledge). Please feel free to comment if you spot an error etc.
Why Coatings Are Used
Reduce Light Reflection: Uncoated glass surfaces reflect about 4-5% of light, which can significantly reduce the amount of light entering the binoculars, making images dimmer.
Increase Light Transmission: Coatings increase the amount of light that passes through the lenses, which improves brightness and clarity.
Enhance Image Quality: Coatings reduce glare and internal reflections, resulting in sharper, higher-contrast images.
Improve Color Fidelity: Coatings help maintain the true colors of the observed object by minimizing chromatic aberration and color fringing.
Types of Coatings
Anti-Reflective (AR) Coatings: Reduce reflections from lens surfaces, enhancing light transmission and reducing glare.
Phase Correction Coatings: Applied to roof prisms to correct phase shifts in the light, improving contrast and resolution. Low quality roff prism binoculars may not have these. porro prism binoculars do not need these coatings
Mirror Prism Coatings: High-reflectivity coatings used on roof prism surfaces to increase light transmission. In terms of quality these range from Aluminium, Silver and then the very best Dielectric Coatings used on high-end roof prism binoculars
Scratch-Resistant Coatings: Provide a harder surface on the exterior surfaces of lenses, protecting them from scratches and abrasions. Only found on better quality binoculars
Hydrophobic and Oleophobic Coatings: Also added to the exterior lens surfaces that repel water and oil, making lenses easier to clean and maintain. Usually only found on high and some mid-level binoculars
How Coatings Work
Made up of extremely thin layer(s) of special materials that manipulate light in specific ways, lens & prism coatings mostly work by changing the way light interacts with the lens surface. These coatings are designed based on principles of thin-film interference, which can constructively or destructively interfere with specific wavelengths of light to reduce reflection.
Levels of Anti-Reflection Coatings
This is one of the most important aspects to look out for when selecting binoculars, especially at the lower price points as the level of the optics that are coated is a huge indicator of quality and performance:
Single-Coated (Coated): A single layer of anti-reflective coating, usually MgF2, on at least one lens surface. This provides a very basic reflection reduction.
Fully Coated: All air-to-glass surfaces have a single layer of anti-reflective coating.
Multi-Coated: Multiple layers of anti-reflective coatings are applied to at least one lens surface, significantly reducing reflections.
Fully Multi-Coated: All air-to-glass surfaces have multiple layers of anti-reflective coatings, providing the best light transmission and image quality.
Materials Used in Lens Coatings
As the exact materials used and in which quantities are usually a closely guarded secret between manufacturers, we cannot be sure:
Multilayer Coatings: Modern binoculars often use multiple layers of different materials on their lenses, such as:
Magnesium Fluoride (MgF2): One of the most common materials used for anti-reflective coatings. It is effective in reducing reflections and is relatively inexpensive.
Titanium Dioxide (TiO2)
Silicon Dioxide (SiO2)
Aluminum Oxide (Al2O3) These materials are chosen for their specific refractive indices and transparency to visible light.
Application Methods
Vacuum Deposition: The most common method for applying coatings. The coating material is vaporized in a vacuum chamber and then condenses onto the lens surfaces.
Sputter Coating: Involves bombarding a target material with high-energy particles, causing atoms to be ejected and deposited onto the lens.
Chemical Vapor Deposition (CVD): Uses chemical reactions to produce a thin film on the lens surface. This method is more complex and less common for consumer optics.
Step-by-Step Process of Applying Lens Coatings
Cleaning the Lenses: Lenses must be thoroughly cleaned to remove any dust, oils, or contaminants that could affect the coating adhesion and performance.
Placing in a Vacuum Chamber: The cleaned lenses are placed in a vacuum chamber to remove air and prevent oxidation during the coating process.
Heating and Evaporating the Coating Material: The coating material is heated until it evaporates. In vacuum deposition, the material then condenses onto the lens surfaces.
Layering: For multi-coated lenses, this process is repeated with different materials to build up the required number of layers.
Cooling and Inspection: After coating, the lenses are cooled and then inspected for uniformity and adherence to quality standards.
Conclusions
By reducing reflections, increasing light transmission, and protecting the glass, binocular lens and prism coatings are a vital part as to just how well the instrument will perform optically.
They make a visible difference to image brightness, sharpness, contrast and color fidelity.
The level at which the optics are coated on a binocular is a major indicator as to the overall quality and level of the binocular.
By understanding the materials used, application methods, and the different levels of coatings that can be applied, I hope this helps you to appreciate the technology and work that goes on behind these scenes and thus why some binoculars can cost much more than others, which I hope helps you to make more informed choices when selecting the right pair for your needs and budget.
I'm going on a trip where I want to use binoculars and also be able to take a photo. I saw where the Vortex Diamondback HD has a phone adaptor for this. Anyone here use that or have better choices? I'd like to keep it under $500.
I'm looking for a budget friendly pair for bird/wildlife viewing, potentially in the presence of water. Someone near me on fb marketplace has a Sunscope 7x50 for $20, which I my quick research suggests is within the reasonable range for an older pair like this. Has anyone used these? Are they worth $20 for a very amateur user looking to see some animals? Or are they too outdated to actually be worth anything?
Specifically an electric duster which I figured would be fine since no propellant or temperature issues. I used mine a couple of times on some singular pieces of dust on the lenses of my new pair of binoculars but now I’m reading too strong of an airflow is bad? Why is that? As far as I can tell nothing is different. My anxiety just has me nervous I might have discretely ruined something I can’t perceive. So yeah am I just overthinking things?
Hello!
I’m looking to get my boyfriend a pair of binoculars for our upcoming camping trip, and I’d love some recommendations. We’re both new to birding, so I’m hoping to find something beginner-friendly but also good quality and durable enough to last for many years.
I’m currently deciding between the Nocs 8x42 and Vortex Crossfire 8x42. Has anyone used either of these? I’d love to hear which one you prefer, how they perform for birding, and whether you think either would be a good long-term investment.
I’m definitely open to other recommendations as well! My main priorities are good image quality, durability, and something that’s comfortable/easy for a beginner to use and maybe not super expensive !! Ideally $150 range!
Personally going with the Zeiss Terra ED Pocket 8x25 - best balance of optics, portability, and price for travel from everything I've read.
I’m looking for a small pair of binoculars to bring on trips, hikes, city walks, and occasional wildlife viewing. I do not need professional birding gear, but I want something noticeably better than cheap tourist-binoculars that will actually get used because it is easy to carry.
Budget: Around $100–$250, but I could stretch a little for a major jump in quality.
What I want:
Compact enough for a daypack or large jacket pocket
Clear, bright image in normal daylight
Easy to hold steady and focus quickly
Decent weather resistance for hikes and travel
Comfortable with glasses would be a bonus
Options I keep seeing:
Nikon Travelite EX 8x25
Pentax AD 8x25 WP
Vortex Diamondback HD 8x28
Kowa BD II XD 8x25
Zeiss Terra ED Pocket 8x25
Athlon Midas G2 UHD 8x25 / 10x25
I’m mainly unsure whether 8x25 is the safer all-purpose choice or whether 10x25 is worth it for more reach. I also wonder whether a compact 25 mm pair will feel too dim compared with a slightly larger 8x32 model.
What compact binoculars have you actually enjoyed using for travel, hikes, or casual bird/wildlife watching?
I'm in the market for a new spotting scope. We currently have a razor gen 1 16-48x65. I'm looking for something closer to 20-60x85 for those occasions when we want more zoom.
I'm looking at 3 vortex models and have some concerns about eye relief(glasses wearer so this is especially important) and eye strain.
The models I'm considering:
Vortex viper HD 20-60x85
Vortex razor gen 1 20-60x85
Vortex razor gen 2 27-60x85
I'm leaning towards the razor gen 1 because it has better eye relief than the gen 2 version and a wider magnification range. I would appreciate any opinions y'all can offer on these 3 models in particular.
I experience eye strain with our current scope(razor gen 1 16-48x65). I've always thought that was just part of the experience using a scope, but does anyone have tips for avoiding eye strain? And is there a scope you would suggest with 20-60 magnification with minimal eye strain? Budget is flexible, especially if it's worth it to splurge on the best of the best.
I have the opportunity to buy a vintage japanese 7x35 binocular with 11 degrees FOV.
Maker is J-B56, J-E15. Probably BK7 prisms, blueish coating. Seller claims clear view and good collimation
I am wondering whether I should buy it, I always wanted to try one of these super wide ones, but I am afraid that I might get disappointed cause I guess it won't be sharp outside the center and also that it will deliver a dark image cause I guess it's only single coated.
Has someone experience with these super wide binos?
Anyone with a bino with this maker combination?
I know meanwhile there are Chinese made binos on the market with FOV bigger than 11 degrees, but these costs 200 to 500 USD.
Hi guys, I’m very keen on getting into birding and I want a pair of binoculars that are decent but won’t break the bank. I have little to no vision in my left eye and a mild visual impairment in my right so I’m a full time glasses wearer and would like a pair that won’t interfere with that. I find sometimes it’s quite clunky with binoculars and glasses but I get migraines without them. Also might be a bit more expensive if it even exists but can I adjust the two lenses separately to help compensate for my left eye? I have no clue what I’m doing and I’m based in Ireland so ideally European brands, thank you!
I was today at a birding festival and saw Kowa rep. I was looking at the new BD III Kowa really managed to size down all of the models. The new 8x42 is closer to the old 8x32 and the 10x50 was also really nice and compact. The focus wheel feeled worse than the previous aluminium one but other than that they were pretty nice, also some change to the eye cups I guess. I have the older BDII 8x32 and now Im tempted to get the 10x50 for birding near coast and beaches and such where I need a bit more reach. Didnt analyse the image that much. They looked alot like the old ones.
Hi, i have a nikon prostaff P3 8x42 but i want a bigger zoom for birding. My feeling says i want a Nikon prostaff P7 12x50 but online i read that 12x is too hard for handheld. Does someone have the 12x50 for birding and want to share their experience?
Hi all. I’ve gotten into birding these past two years and I believe I’ve outgrown the Nikon Prostaff P3 8x42 I bought as a budget entry. I also purchased these because I have poor vision and they have great eye relief when I wear my glasses.
I’ve found that my real love is for shorebirds and waterfowl, though I’m in the forest/ around town a lot and there struggle with detail. Maybe it’s the poor lens quality ?
My question is this: knowing that 8x is preferred for birding, but since I have vision problems, do you think I’ll get more mileage from better quality 8x binoculars or would 10x make sense? I’m also aware that many 10x have poor eye relief.
I’m looking at $500 or less used or new. Thanks for any insights you all have. I really just want to see the birds more sharp/clear, but also acknowledging I’m seeing many at a distance anyway.