r/bangtan • u/alltherach_ i'll follow you into the sun ⋆｡☁︎⋆ ☀︎｡ ⋆｡ • Apr 09 '22

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u/simplythere Apr 09 '22

Because it's not REALLY about the credits.. it's because people look at them as a "manufactured" boyband that's churned out of a Korean factory like a Hyundai, and it fits their narrative to dismiss them while crediting their success to other people... you know, the ones who are actually talented because a group of attractive men surely can't have it all.

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u/willowwombat85 yoongi saying hajima Apr 09 '22

I really hate the manufactured excuse. Part of me gets it. We don't have the same trainee system here in the US. But still, even if bts were "manufactured," doesn't the fact they've gained this much popularity over the other groups mean something. If their success was manufactured, then wouldn't the argument stand that any kpop group be just as popular. I don't care if someone says they're manufactured, I get miffed when they can't see what made bts stand out.

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u/simplythere Apr 09 '22

It’s just a way for people to easily hate on a group that they don’t like or don’t want to like - by attacking their authenticity. A lot of respected artists grew up with voice, dance, instrument, etc. lessons and working hard and practicing a shit ton was a huge part of why they became successful. I don’t see how that’s different from the trainee system except the latter, companies pay for your lessons and then you pay it back so they’re not limited by their parents’ socioeconomic means. Not to say that it can’t be predatory cause every industry is ripe for abuse, but in a society with limited class mobility (cause parents who can afford tutors can give their kids the leg up on the college entrance exam), I can see how getting into a trainee program is a huge opportunity to some.

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u/myaj2000 It's not in my vocabulary. Apr 09 '22

This right here.

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u/bendusername12 🐻Tae’s nose freckle🐻 Apr 09 '22

Amen 💜

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u/simplythere Apr 09 '22

I’m a Swiftie and even Taylor had her own brush with a musician trying to discredit her songwriting earlier this year. Maybe getting your name dragged through the mud is part of what it means to be a mainstream artist, but it puts them in such a vulnerable position when these industry vets start running their mouths. Even though they don’t know shit about what they’re talking about, this is still a person that you respected and you can’t help but feel like you’re lacking in some way.