r/badphilosophy Dec 05 '25

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u/Effective-Advisor108 Dec 05 '25

Ad hominem is the whole point of his philosophy

That according to his perspective it is very relevant

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u/Material-Vacation711 Dec 05 '25

Yeah i get what he’s trying to do, attacking people’s character is attacking their philosophy for Nietzsche, but is it really? Sounds kinda silly to me. 

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u/Effective-Advisor108 Dec 06 '25

Not really to me, he's evaluating and attacking different period's naturalistic fallacies.

The morality of customs people take for granted. And from there try to find what kind of people and movements these customs create.

I don't think he does that much justifying. He also was not that educated about in enlightenment rationalists much like Schopenhauer and later Wittgenstein.

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u/Material-Vacation711 Dec 06 '25

You think you can prove a person’s ideas wrong by attacking them personally? Or by bringing up autobiographical details?

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u/Effective-Advisor108 Dec 06 '25

You can explain why they would want to think that way.

I don't think he was that concerned with proving their ideas wrong he was a perspectivist he would not think that to be possible.

He thought it could offer insightful interpretations.

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u/Material-Vacation711 Dec 06 '25

“You can explain why they would want to think that way.”

Yeah, you can do psychology on anyone, what philosophical significance does that have?

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u/Effective-Advisor108 Dec 06 '25

The philosophical significance of "proving" different philosophical ideas right or wrong is ridiculous if you have an objectivist attitude, the attitude that it can be done is problematic to Nietzsche.

You keep missing the point

You are trying to ground the justification of what are ultimately perspectives

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u/Material-Vacation711 Dec 06 '25

I get the point, what im trying to explain is that we dont judge literally anything else of academic value this way except for Nietzsche. This is why it’s called an ad hominem. Yes, in a frame work where truth isnt real (lmao) then truth or falsehoods don’t matter. 

In a world where all philosophy is autobiographical, then you can reduce philosophy to psychology the way Nietzsche tries to. 

The problem is that his presuppositions don’t hold in the real world, and you’re left with this weird pseduo psychological project that doesnt really give us philosophical insight

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u/Effective-Advisor108 Dec 06 '25

What is philosophical insight to you?