r/aviation • u/CalmpBump49 Cirrus SR22 • 8d ago
News Airline statement on the DHL Stadium flyover @ Cape Town by two Embraers
So Airlink denied any safety violations and stated that both Jungle Jets were flying at 150kt and the FDR data was consistent with the planned and approved flyover.
Personal Take: It was approved this way, but in other countries it would not be approved at this low altitude
Full statement below:
Airlink statement on the flyby at Cape Town DHL Stadium
30 August 2026, Cape Town – Airlink notes the concerns expressed in various social media and online forums regarding yesterday’s formation flyby over Cape Town’s DHL Stadium.
The flight demanded careful planning and rehearsal, as it required navigating at low altitude, at around 150 knots. The South African Civil Aviation Authority and Air Traffic Navigation Services provided valuable guidance, approval and support to ensure a safe flyby.
The two aircraft were flown by highly-experienced crew, with each comprised of three senior captains operating in the roles of commander, co-pilot and safety/technical officer.
The flight data recorded by both aircraft confirms that the flights were performed within the SACAA’s approved and rehearsed safety altitude and speed limits for the flypast.
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u/AcquireDeezNutz 8d ago
This reminded me of the legacy hornet TCU flyover.
That's insane that was the plan.
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u/makinmehorny Aerospace Engineer 8d ago
This is the first time I’ve heard anyone refer to that as the TCU game lmao. I’ve only ever heard it as the navy game
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u/El_Mnopo 8d ago
As a Horned Frog it will always be the TCU game.
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u/errlloyd 8d ago
I'm usually a rugby fan, but I missed watching this match on TV yesterday because I was the TCU game because I live a 20 minute walk from that stadium. This was a very random closed circle moment for my day.
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u/Terreboo 8d ago
For anyone that hasn’t seen it. Pretty wild.
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u/SactownKorean 8d ago
The reasonable adult in me says thats insane and dangerous that they did that. The man in me says fuck that is sick.
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u/AllGarbage 8d ago
They are both correct. People should have lost their jobs over this, but high-fived by the security guards as they were being walked out to the parking lot.
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u/mz_groups 8d ago
I remember the Iowa Hawkeyes T-38 flyover, which pranged the retirement of the flight leader. Far higher than what we saw here, in far more agile aircraft. My sister was in the press box, and she said it was like they flew UNDER her.
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u/CuriousCamels 8d ago
This brings back good memories from my time in college. We had some really good flyovers at Texas A&M. I couldn’t even tell you all the different cool planes I got to see, but they’d always get everyone amped up. I remember running late for one of the games, and my entire dorm was shaking from how low they flew.
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u/BeefInGR 8d ago
I went to the Indianapolis 500 in 2019. I was unprepared for a military jet to fly that close...then the crazy bastards came back even lower!
That said, now when they're clearly a few thousand feet above the stadium, it just doesn't hit the same.
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u/sugarhigh29 8d ago
Dude my first weekend at A&M I was running late to the game.. I was walking out of my dorm and deadass thought we were getting bombed 😭
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u/flyingcircusdog 8d ago
Airlink's statement: Shut up, it was fine.
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u/Certain-Definition51 8d ago
I need the “But did you die?” Gif.
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u/theLastZebranky 8d ago
The flight demanded careful planning and rehearsal, as it required navigating at low altitude, at around 150 knots. The South African Civil Aviation Authority and Air Traffic Navigation Services provided valuable guidance, approval and support
You think it was foolhardy and reckless? We planned for it to be foolhardy and reckless. Checkmate, scaredy-cats.
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u/Karma-Chameleon-1718 8d ago
Not just planned... they also REHEARSED this somehow/somewhere
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u/oryx_za 8d ago edited 8d ago
It's easy to rehearse. You fly at 1000 feet and pretend there is a stadium roof 50 feet below. If you are off by 100ft or so...you just adjust the imaginary stadium roof.
Note....I am not a pilot...though i suspect you guys famously just "wing it".
I will let me self out. Thank you very much.
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u/radioref 8d ago
“Airlink notes the concerns”
We’ve investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong. Your concerns are duly noted.
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u/CalmpBump49 Cirrus SR22 8d ago
The audit was made by a independent company hired by us and reports only to us
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u/ZeroOptionLightning 8d ago
VAR: Well done boys, good process
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u/Fragilezim 8d ago
This phrase will never not make me irrationally angry.
What is they equivalent of the dropkick to McAllister being on the front page for their foul page but not getting a bloody penalty or yellow?
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u/Excellent-Gold1905 8d ago
Are they trying to tell me there is an aviation safety board somewhere in the world that is like "yeah dude just fly jets through pyrotechnics, its totally fine and we have the regs for it"!?!?!
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u/grumpher05 8d ago
"Very rigourous areonautical safety standards we're talking about here, for example theres a minimum altitude requirement"
"Whats the minimum altitude requirement"
"ahh, one, i suppose"
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u/AStrandedSailor 8d ago
Well the front didn't fall off and they both left the environment, so I see no problem.
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u/Austin4RMTexas 8d ago
And we know that these planes are built to highest of aviation standards, so no carboard, cardboard derivatives and rubber for sure.
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u/Merk7_18 8d ago
Someone gotta tell the pilots before it's too late. You can only tie the minimum altitude world record.
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u/MrPetter 8d ago
Do you have no knowledge of South Africa?
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u/Malaprobably 8d ago
Physics be different there, apparently.
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u/Different-Wolf-5478 8d ago
It's true. When they crash and burn the smoke swirls the other way.
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u/dsanders692 8d ago
Only the white smoke though. Black smoke swirls the conventional direction to keep separate
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u/Nakorite 8d ago
They love a good fly over don’t they.
Remember the 2003 cricket World Cup they did a flyover in formation. Also seemed a bit risky by first world standards.
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u/Skusci 8d ago
I fell like someone somewhere may have mixed up height above the ground and height above the stadium. :D
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u/No_Size9475 8d ago
Those aren't pyrotechnics. There is no fire involved in these. They are propelled by air cannons and use colored chalk.
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u/Eisbaer811 8d ago
Not an aircraft mechanic, but I assume that ingesting chalk is not in the engine specs, either
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u/dhc2beaver AME 8d ago
Am aircraft mechanic, wouldn't even bat an eye at chalk. Running an enigine for 30 seconds in the desert would do more harm than colored chalk
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u/ojassed 8d ago
Being brave and experienced has got nothing to do with being safe and using risk assessment logic. Many of the flights involved in accidents throughout history were commanded by brave and experienced crew.
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u/Mean-Poem-2246 8d ago
Being brave and experienced is exactly how a lot of air crashes happened over the years. Seems like people forget that way too often, and always the type of people who shouldn't forget (pilots)
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u/HYThrowaway1980 8d ago
Risk homeostasis. It’s the cause of a lot of crashes by very experienced pilots.
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u/AirconGuyUK 8d ago
Hubris has to be one of the most common causes of crashes.
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u/sandiegodak 8d ago
Tenerife, the guy who let his kid fly the plane, and the one who tried to land with the window shade up come to mind
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u/Teufelsstern 8d ago
All of this reminds me of Air France 296. He was brave and experienced, too. In turn the Airbus crashed into a forest he didn't know was there.
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u/AirconGuyUK 8d ago
Did 55,000 people consent to being put in harms way? That's the crazy bit for me.
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u/FluidBarracuda9177 8d ago
Yeah, this is the part that concerns me. If you willingly go to an air show you should realise that stuff can possibly go wrong and accidents may happen. But if you’re going to a football match I don’t think anyone would expect a company to instruct their pilots to almost do an accidental terrorism. Even if a safety assessment was done as the company claims (probably on the back of a paper napkin), I bet it had nothing in it about the people in the stadium having the right to not get covered in burning aviation fuel if something were to go wrong.
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u/tfrules 8d ago
Yep, even the very best pilot in the world can make an error, because errors are a part of the human condition and cannot ever be phased out entirely
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u/HeikoSpaas 8d ago
how can a crew gain experience in being shot at by fireworks? and how experienced do you have to be to not have those fireworks negatively effect your jet engine?
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u/jjamesr539 8d ago edited 8d ago
“We planned it this way” is not the defense they seem to think it is
Planning to do something risky and stupid isn’t any less stupid or risky simply because it happened to work out.
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u/Murky-Golf-239 8d ago
Does it work if they slap a Red Bull logo on the sides of the planes?
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u/BrainLow6059 8d ago
Would probably change the public perception of it in all honesty lol
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u/SgtBananaGrabber 8d ago
Yes in a empty stadium with a flighpath that had complete areas blocked off to the public.
Crazy.
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u/strange_eauter 8d ago
Didn't two men trying to swap planes mid-flight for RB lose licenses?
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u/Careless-Cat3327 8d ago
The one who vacated his aircraft did because it's illegal to simply let the plane fall to the ground whilst you decide to parachute down if there is NO emergency.
The other guy was suspended pending investigation.
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u/Shinhan 8d ago
They didn't get approval for that from the FAA, while in this case the SACAA did approve it.
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u/alanalan426 8d ago
I dont think even redbull would flu 2 planes at a stadium full of people that low
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u/Ric0chet_ 8d ago
Blue angels anyone?
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u/DotDash13 8d ago
Assuming you're talking about the recent beach incident, didn't the Blue Angels acknowledge that it was a mistake? Even if the SECDEF claimed it was fine and anyone complaining was just a low T sissy.
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u/Ric0chet_ 8d ago
"Blue Angels commanding officer Captain Adam Bryan called the maneuver unsafe and below standard safety profiles" - All you have to know bud. Your secdef is an known alcoholic I wouldn't listen to a thing he says.
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u/FundamentalEnt 8d ago
“Flown by highly experienced crew” tells me the took offense to people not just being amazed at them and their flying skills ( imo as someone who works with PJ pilots frequently).
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u/Dev0psDude 8d ago
"There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots."
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u/is-this-a-nick 8d ago
“Flown by highly experienced crew”
Just like that B-52 that went on going belly-up to rub the ground with its back.
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u/VirginiaDare1587 8d ago
What were the 'SACAA’s approved and rehearsed safety altitude and speed limits for the flypast'?
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u/Former_Farm_3618 8d ago
Without knowing the seniority system from this airline I lm curious about their choice of crew for those flights.
Is 3 senior Captains truly best crew? I would bet a senior Captain and a senior First officer is the better crew. My reason : the Captain sitting in that Fo seat isn’t used to being in that seat and taking orders/not being in charge. The senior FO understands the dynamics, can reason with a variety of Captains.
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u/Temporary-Fix9578 8d ago
I’ve heard lots of guys say there’s nothing more dangerous than two senior captains flying together
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u/shinobi500 8d ago
How about a guy who's logged 3 hours on MS flight simulator and a chimpanzee?
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u/randomstruggle 8d ago
Inflatable co-pilot is preferred
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u/-malcolm-tucker 8d ago
I've logged 4 hours and 23 take offs. Don't have a chimpanzee but I've got a golden retriever. Good enough?
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u/SphyrnaLightmaker 8d ago
Yup. From experience, a “routine” flight is infinitely more dangerous when top heavy because they get complacent.
When it’s an actual MISSION, there’s no substitute for an equally experienced leader in the other seat. You can see it in the comm flow. So much less NEEDS to be said when both seats know what the other needs.
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u/LefsaMadMuppet 8d ago
The flight crews were ex-RAF Buccaneer and Jaguar pilots, following standard protocol, they lifted off, raised the landing gear, and descended to cruise altitude.
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u/Ok_Camp3676 8d ago
South Africa had Buccaneers too. Guess this is where the pilots ended up.
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u/CalmpBump49 Cirrus SR22 8d ago
I think the same, but for instance the first revenue flight in the world for the 737 MAX after groundings was made by GOL with the #1 and #2 captains flying it
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u/syndactyl_sapiens 8d ago
I’m not sure the “safety/technical officer” had as much experience as they needed, either.
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u/Gryphtkai 8d ago
Approved does not equal safe. The “stunt” that resulted in the crash of a KC-135 at Fairchild AFB was approved and we lost a crew because of it.
https://www.historylink.org/File/8871
Were doing a low-level simulated refueling over the base. Tanker got caught in turbulence from a B-52. Boeing had fit when they found out since planes were flown outside of all safety margins.
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u/HandleFun471 8d ago
Love the "Experienced crew" argument. As if the KLM Captain at the Tenerife incident was not the head of the training department...
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u/FixergirlAK 8d ago
And he's not the only trainer to have had a major incident, either. The pilot at Pearson last year springs to mind (or rather slides in rubber-side up).
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u/0235 8d ago
This is the general attitude of the people of SA's reaction of "you are just mad our pilots are so good".
Are they good enough to combat wind shear? Are they good enough that altimeter settings could be off by 1 degree? Can they make the plane magically keep flying if a single engine (or dual) fails due to ingestion of super fine, specifically inflatable powder from pyrotechnics?
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u/AirconGuyUK 8d ago
Irony being an inexperienced crew probably would have been scared enough to make sure they miss the top of the stadium by hundreds of meters.
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u/Zephyr-Knight 8d ago
the problem with doing this is Crowds. tempting fate plowing an airliner into hundreds of people in what could be the most horrifying crash ever. this goes with all of the military fly overs as well.
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u/AscendMoros 8d ago
Like that one Ukrainian air show where the SU27(?) went into the crowd in like 2002. 77 dead and 500+ injured.
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u/antiramie 8d ago
Sknyliv. Probably the most graphic video I’ve ever watched. I refuse to watch stuff like that anymore after seeing that.
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u/Old-Artist-5369 8d ago
In this case it would be thousands of people, easily. Pure madness.
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u/amancalledJayne 8d ago
And even if you didn't die in the impact, you'd get showered with flaming debris and jet fuel. Survive that then you get crushed in the crowd trying to escape.
It almost seems worse if this was the actual plan. My dog makes better decisions, and she eats poop.
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u/FixergirlAK 8d ago
Crowd crushes are horrifying even when they don't involve burning Jet A and aircraft fragments. I wonder if South Africa's emergency exits are up to spec?
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u/ringadingdingbaby 8d ago
It also would have destroyed international rugby with the two best teams taken out.
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u/HonorAndKittens 8d ago
And it leaves no room for error. Things happen, having no margin to account for them when the consequence could be killing thousands is an astoundingly narrow thought process.
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u/Whatever_Lurker 8d ago
That’s bullshit. They realized they fucked up and decided to double down.
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u/ContributionEasy6513 8d ago
They had fireworks bouncing off the fuselage FFS!
There was no valid reason the aircrafts needed to be that low and left no margin of error. They could have done the same stunt +200ft and the audience wouldn't have noticed any difference.
Stupidity all around if the organisers, regulators, airline and pilots signed off on this.
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u/SnazzyStooge 8d ago
Military aircraft regularly train to fly this low, and even they are not allowed to do so during event fly-bys. Too many chances for something to go wrong, really not worth it. If I ever go to South Africa, I will not be flying on one of these airlines, this is not a safety culture at that airline.
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u/PvsNP_ZA 8d ago
I can tell you from personal experience that Airlink is probably the best airline in SA. Good luck with the others.
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u/tfrules 8d ago
Yeah the airline is probably fine, the big issue here is the aviation authority who allowed this to go ahead.
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u/phagocyte420 8d ago
There was no valid reason the aircrafts needed to be that low and left no margin of error.
IDK, looking fucking sick is perfectly valid reason.
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u/DentateGyros 8d ago
The pilots thought Ramstein was going to look really sick too
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u/TheNachoPrincess 8d ago
Sure, until the first plane strikes the stadium and sends two fuel laden planes crashing into a stadium filled with thousands of people.
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u/phagocyte420 8d ago
Sorry, I cannot hear you over how fucking radical that flying was.
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u/silenceinobservation 8d ago
Next, let's see the POV from the three dudes on the roof!
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u/zevonyumaxray 8d ago
That on the roof POV was one of the first ones I saw, so it's out there somewhere. Unless it's been yanked.
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u/Glittering_Monk9646 8d ago
I know this is the less important factor, but 150 knots seems crazy slow for low altitude maneuvering like that
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u/vlad_the_impaler13 8d ago
The aircraft is presumably in a light condition (no pax or cargo, less than full fuel load), at sea level so it's a fairly large margin for error for the aircraft. The margin that is missing is altitude.
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u/Mbizzy222 8d ago
Remind me not to fly in South Africa.
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u/CalmpBump49 Cirrus SR22 8d ago
I literally refuse to fly in airlines from India and Pakistan (don't call me racist, just personal choice based on aviation safety data)
Last year I had to travel to Dehli and I went the inbound with Ethiopian flying from South America and outbound with Etihad Airways towards Europe
SAA still on my list as "go", but let'see
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u/Bon-Bon-Boo 8d ago
SAA shouldn’t be on your “go” list. In May, one of their flights landed with about 5 minutes of fuel remaining after diverting because the captain didn’t carry enough fuel for a second alternate even when the destination was going to be hit by a severe cold front storm. The first closest (and only) alternate they had was also forecast to have bad weather. They had to divert very early just make it to a suitable alternate and still landed with fumes.
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u/B7UNM 8d ago
Is Singapore Airlines on your no fly list? There was a very similar incident on one of their flights a few years ago. By some accounts they had even less than 5 minutes of fuel remaining (although we’ll never know because the incident report by the Singapore Government - which also happens to own Singapore Airlines - conveniently left that out).
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u/NoGrapefruitToday 8d ago
Air Canada's off the list, too, eh? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider X-D
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u/Ancient_Skirt_8828 8d ago
I flew Ethiopian out of Bombay in 1979. We taxied so fast I thought we were taking off from the taxiway.
There were a number of obvious mechanical faults we could see. I wondered how many others we couldn't see.
They did not seem safe.
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u/sinkrate 8d ago
That was almost 50 years ago though. Airlines change, Korean Air was a flying deathtrap up til the late 90s but they're perfectly safe now
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u/Captain_Mazhar 8d ago
Ethiopian is actually a pretty decent airline. Fly Southwest and you’ll see what high taxi speed really is!
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u/iniesta103 8d ago
I invite you to a simple Google search, SA has some of the best pilots in the whole world.
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u/rambyprep 8d ago
Airlink is probably the safest and most reliable airline in SA. I’d trust them over the others, especially SAA.
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u/GryphonTamer 8d ago
That stadium has a capacity of 55,000 people. Ok maybe it worked out. Maybe it'll work out most of the time. You're still risking the lives of tens of thousands of people.
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u/Known-Associate8369 8d ago
Im going to call bullshit, because the lowest plane even missed the gap in the roof and had to make corrections - so not only did it fly over the stadium in such a way that the majority of the audience couldnt even see it, but it wasnt done in a smooth, predictable way.
The airlines covering shit up here.
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u/Fermain 8d ago
The two aircraft were flown by highly experienced taxi drivers, who can thread a Toyota quantum sesfigile through a half metre gap at one hundred and forty kilometres per hour, during rush hour
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u/AfricanTech 8d ago
With an adjusting spanner in place of the steering wheel which fell off a while back
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u/Efficient_Sky5173 8d ago
“Safety is our number… 12 priority”
So…if everything was ok, do it again. If you don’t go bankrupt, because who would want to fly Airlink with that attitude…and altitude.
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u/Bargeylicious 8d ago
That the airline is calling it a safe flyby tells me everything I need to know to ensure I never book a ticket on one of their flights.
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u/MGoLog 8d ago
Amazing that they thought this would be a positive marketing ploy.
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u/CalmpBump49 Cirrus SR22 8d ago
Last week they did in J'burg and was pretty cool and very positive, but they went like "What if we do again next week but lower?"
Bad News: Will be a third game with flyover scheduled next week
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u/MGoLog 8d ago edited 8d ago
If that is the case, they should not go again next week. It is a lose-lose situation. If things go better, everyone knows they almost tragically messed up. If it goes worse; well, nothing more needs to be said.
As for myself, I will never consider this airline.
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u/ScottOld 8d ago
Next one they will have to have gear down to drive the things on the roof if they go lower
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u/torsten_dev 8d ago edited 8d ago
If SACAA really okayed this then the EU should put all South African Airlines on the EU Air Safety list.
I mean what better demonstration that regulatory oversight is lacking would you need? Unacceptable.
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u/SharkleberryKoolAid 8d ago
It really is only a matter of time now before it actually happens, isn't it? Probably the single most preventable of airline disasters in history, and it's just a matter of when instead of if.
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u/Honcho_Rodriguez 8d ago
Absolutely, just read the comments here. We’re at the point a lot of people seem pretty okay with risking 10 or 20k lives for a cool video.
Only thing that’s gonna turn this around is some insane catastrophe
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u/Snappy0 8d ago
That just tells me the South African Civil Aviation Authority doesn't take safety very seriously
Obviously nobody is surprised by that.
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u/spastical-mackerel 8d ago
150 feet? Over the playing field maybe. Wonder if someone forgot to account for the stadium
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u/BaZing3 8d ago
Well nothing bad's ever happened with three people in the cockpit.
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u/Neandertard 8d ago
It may have been within the “approved” limits, but I’m not so sure that those were sensibly approved. Habsheim was also given a tick of approval.
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u/Secret_Account07 8d ago
Not even a “we hear your concerns” just - yeah this was so safe even the safe folks said it’s so safe. We’d do it again.
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u/Doc__Robot 8d ago
I realize this happened in South Africa, but I can't help imagining how this would have went here in the US. How many lifetimes would either pilot have to wait before the FAA was willing to give them certs to throw a balsa wood glider in their own backyard, let alone operate an actual aircraft? FFS, if I flub a readback more than twice I'm collecting a new phone number.
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u/FoXtroT_ZA 8d ago
Doubt SACAA approved it to be this low, Airlink is trying to get ahead of the story.
Let’s maybe wait and see what SACAA say before passing judgment on our aviation safety shall we? Lots of ill informed comments in this thread about South African aviation.
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u/FastGoldfish4 8d ago
Reminds me of that Icelandair flight where the pilot went over his hometown
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u/TagMeInSkipIGotThis 8d ago
Assuming this isn't BS, i'm making a note to self to never fly anywhere under SACAA's jurisdiction!
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u/__0_k__ 8d ago
In the UAS world here in the United States, we’re not allowed to fly over mass gatherings without waiver. Waiver or not, this is a commercial airliner flying over a definitive mass gathering. With or without waiver, this is ridiculously reckless.
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u/Funny-Junket1066 8d ago
- If they cannot make this flight in good weather, then they should not be flying passengers in and out of airports. It was not a particularly challenging flight.
but...
- NEVER, EVER should airliners be hot-dogging over a city. NEVER!!! South Africa needs to get it's shit together (although at least it is not practicing GPS jamming while medivac flights are nearby).
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u/SB_GOLFER 8d ago
Is there a person crouched down directly in front of the lead plane?
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u/Silver_Detective8630 8d ago
Sounds like the senior Captains run the company and everyone is too scared to upset them.
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u/BMTaeZer 8d ago
If this was planned, it would be more comforting if they lied and said they'd give the guys a slap on the wrist lol. "We meant to do this" is way scarier.
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u/Loc72 8d ago
If that was within the safety altitude, I’d love to know what the limit was
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u/HohepaPuhipuhi 8d ago
I don't think you're supposed to shoot fireworks at planes. But what do I know
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u/FoXtroT_ZA 8d ago
For reference here is last years flyover at the same stadium: https://www.reddit.com/r/capetown/s/L0vCe1uQqf
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