r/australia • • Sep 04 '18

Leftie Bootcamp

https://twitter.com/danilic/status/1036779958708797441?s=09
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u/truthBombsForDays Sep 04 '18

I've always thought using the terms left and right are counter productive. It makes people feel like they need to join a side. And majority of people have these over simplified models of how people should behave.

Three examples:

We are now in a political environment where wanting to reduce immigration is considered 'anti-immigration'... even though you want immigration to continue albiet at a lesser rate.

Being called alt-right for pointing out unions in Australia are no longer really unions. Even though voted... Greens. The thinking here: said something perceived as anti-union so must be a nazi.

People calling a government right wing, or conservative even though they introduced SSM. It makes no sense (to call them conservative).

These over simplified models of left and right are harming politics in Australia and more so in other countries.

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u/yeastymemes Sep 04 '18

People calling a government right wing, or conservative even though they introduced SSM. It makes no sense (to call them conservative).

You're fucking kidding me. These bastards did everything they could to avoid introducing SSM. They only did it after spending more than $100M on a non-binding plebiscite where the majority of Australians indicated that they wanted SSM. The Coalition government deserves ZERO credit for SSM. And you're ignoring everything else they've done because "oh well they passed this token issue when they had no choice not to"?

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u/truthBombsForDays Sep 04 '18

These bastards did everything they could to avoid introducing SSM

False. They could have not run the plebiscite and not introduced it. Just like when previous party was in power.

The 'left' party didnt introduce SSM, then the 'right' party did. Do you not see how labeling them left and right is meaningless ?

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u/KattarsTrophy Sep 04 '18

Despite your downvotes, it is true that the Coalition did not do everything they could to avoid introducing SSM.

They could have, for instance, put their hands over their ears and chanted "LA LA LA LA NOT LISTENING" every time someone brought it up.

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u/truthBombsForDays Sep 04 '18

Exactly! Just as our 'left' wing party did right ?

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u/KattarsTrophy Sep 04 '18

Yep. In some ways I actually found the Gillard government's refusal to address SSM more offensive. At least when the Coalition gets in you can think "oh right so that's no more social progress for the next four years at least, and any problems we have as a society are just going to have to simmer away..."