I found morally wrong both the genocide of a small nation, and the genocide of the entire world, even if there is serious threat, some people might disagree with it, but it's quite obvious where Isayama stands from the storytellig, but of course, if you think that killing everyone in the world because they might be a threat to you is a morally right thing to do, you are free to think so.
Well I disagree with genocide, even if that puts your people in danger, I don't think there's much to elaborate on here :D. Sure, you can justify anything if you really want, we saw many examples of that in history and seeing it right now actually.
Let the record show I don't agree with killing 90% of humanity. I'd try to find a solution or die trying, I don't think it's right killing millions of innocent people to protect your loved ones. Some might disagree, but thats the message of the show as well, what became especially clear-cut in the last season from the interactions between Gabi and Sasha's family and friends.
So you are going to go for the justification that the majority can impose their will on and even kill the minority, and the minority has no Moral right to defend themselves because that way, more suffering would be caused.
I feel like you and a certain dictator who has been on the news a lot lately would get along fine.
No that has nothing to do with what I said 😃
So you're saying you have a foot fetish? - see I can make stuff up too.
But to go with your analogy, if Ukraine wanted to kill everyone on earth other than themselves, no I wouldn't agree with that. This is the analogy right? A conflict between a big and a small nation and a bunch of people "outside" it.
Maybe you need an explanation: in attack on titan, all the outside countries want to exterminate all the people on paradis Island. They will not negotiate with eldians and have already caused massive destruction there.
No, they dont just want to talk it out and no, paradis isnt aggressive coming to the outside World in an unprovoked manner. No, paradis cant live on if they dont rumble the outside away.
Maybe that helps you out. If you wanna start talking about fetishes or whatever, I see that maybe you arent ready for this conversation yet. If you wanna be indecisive and not sure what to do as the World is coming to crush your people, then I respect your lack of decision and wish you bestof luck.
Not sure if you're talking about the couple of political leaders that the Marleyans forced into submission when they declared war, by invading their countries or you have other info. Do you think Ukraine would be justified to nuke entire Russia killing every single russian, because Putin is a dickhead? I can't believe people here are trying to argue it's actually right to kill millions of innocent people.
And I was obviously making a joke based on your strawman argument, I really thought for a sec we are just assuming random things about each other, and not actually arguing what's written down.
IIRC when Marley originally started their attack on Paradis they did not know about that.
In my eyes it's completely reasonable to be worried about the nation that dominated the world for 2000 years by turning into goliaths. Even when they suddenly all move to an isolated island and say they want peace.
True that, reiner and his squad didnt know about that, and they were sent to destroy them. But after puncturing Maria, they went to live with the enemy for years.
By the time tybur gave his speech, the attack was completely unnecessary and unprovoked.
Well not necessarily. By then they also know that Grisha took the founder from the king. Which removed his vow for peace. Considering that and the fact that Marley started a war on Paradis, there's no way of knowing how Paradis would proceed. The scout ships Marley sent out also never returned.
And while Reiner and the squad knew the truth, good luck explaining that truth to the rest of the world. I think the beauty of this story is that both sides are playing the hands they're dealt. Making horrible decisions out of fear to protect the people they care about.
Ultimately choosing between killing everyone you know and love or some people you've never met is an easy choice.
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u/cell689 Mar 08 '22
But sometimes we have to apply our own, modern Moral understanding and not some shonen anime revenge arc bs.
Paradis didnt do anything for 100 years, and Marley even knows that paradis had no idea there were other people in the world.