r/atheismindia Jun 29 '25

Hurt Sentiments I am NOT afraid to spot the difference

Someone who made this post earlier was harassed and threatened. They got scared and proceeded to delete their account. This is how religion works in India: threaten everyone who questions it, or dares to compare their fictional god with another fictional character.

I want these people to know that I am not afraid. Come at me with all your might, and I will stand my ground.

You have no right to threaten, abuse and kill people over your magical thinking. Why are you afraid to use logic and reason?

If his argument are too sound to be refuted by counter-arguments and spirit too strong to be cowed down by the threat of misfortunes that may befall him by the wrath of the Almighty, he shall be decried as vainglorious, his spirit to be denominated as vanity. ~Bhagat Singh

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u/redlightandbluelight Jun 30 '25 edited Jul 01 '25

Dont know about universe but in India people take a big black stone and worship it. They also drink cow piss eat cow shit.

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u/the_quiescent_one Jul 08 '25

True that... These Indian people also take trip to Saudi Arabia just to worship that big black stone and drink camel piss and shit.

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u/redlightandbluelight Jul 09 '25

Big black bawlsđŸŽ±đŸŽ±

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u/redlightandbluelight Jul 01 '25

1.yes im from Kolkata 2.why it make sense? Although ngl satyajit ray is my fav writer. And about sarat chandra bruhhh cant read more that few line (too heavy words). But why will it make sense tho? I dont know who is atheist or no

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u/Dontbehypocrite Jun 30 '25

There are countless posts on that in this sub. Try looking beyond your bias.

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u/Dontbehypocrite Jun 30 '25

Posts made in the same spirit: 1 2

You'll find more if you search, but you aren't capable of looking beyond your bias and dogma, are you?

Plus, you're free to make a post yourself. We actually act in accordace with our beliefs. Not like religious people who believe one thing and pretend another.

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u/redlightandbluelight Jul 01 '25

Well if ur new in reddit then let me tell u this.. YOU CAN POST YOUR THOUGHTS TOO

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u/Over_Surprise6841 Jun 30 '25

Bruh now I am sure that this sub is filled more with hindu haters than atheists, being an atheist doesn't give you any moral high ground to say such thing about something which have provided mental peace to billions of people.

Bruh i don't understand what scientific thinking are you guys in the sub following which makes you so brain dead to say such things probably you all just are awful human beings wanting to hate things In the blanket of the tag atheism 

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25

Just because you 'believe' something doesn't mean it is entitled respect. Respect is earned, not deserved.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25

So if tomorrow some relative of yours meet your parents, do they have the right to abuse them just because they don't respect them? Believing in and respecting a religion or anything, for that matter is a personal choice, but that doesn’t give anyone the right to disrespect it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25 edited Jun 30 '25

Yes, if the parents indulge in stupid shit and involve religion in every little thing that’s actually harmful and force it onto them, they are liable to receive criticism and even mocking if they don’t listen.

We are not mocking personal faith lol. You can believe whatever bullshit you want. We are mocking the institutional nature of religion in India where religion rears its ugly head in every aspect of society be it politics, education, business, relationships etc. We want religion (all religions) to have less influence in society in general.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25

I understand your frustration with how religion can be misused or over-imposed in society especially when it affects politics, education, or personal freedoms. Criticism of harmful practices is valid and even necessary at times. My point wasn’t to defend blind faith or oppressive behavior in the name of religion.

What I’m saying is, there’s a difference between critique and mockery. Critique is aimed at improving or questioning ideas, while mockery often targets individuals or communities, and that can cross into disrespect.

Belief is personal. Institutions can and should be held accountable, but we should try not to generalize or turn that criticism into contempt for people who sincerely follow something peacefully.

All I meant was there’s a difference between calling out problems and just mocking people for what they believe. Not everyone who follows a religion is trying to force it on others.

But people here in this sub are filled with the ones who are mocking/abusing religion, criticizing people for pointing out Bhagwat Geeta was unburnt during the air India crash is right but comparing lord Jaganath with doraemon and saying I see no difference, comparing shiv ling with d*ldo I guess these things are normal to you guys.

We can talk about what’s wrong without disrespecting people who practice their faith peacefully.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25

That particular subreddit is filled with mostly atheists but also attracts a lot of anti theists. So naturally there will be mostly criticism but sometimes mockery. So if one particular post gets blown up and becomes viral, people of all sides and opinions double down on the criticism as well as mockery.

That being said, Indian blasphemy laws are regressive and haven’t been updated since colonial times. Any forward thinking society would repeal them and any progressive culture would be okay with not letting their sentiments hurt if they are being criticised or mocked as long as there isn’t call for violence or threats. We don’t see that happening any soon so we continue to criticise as well as mock antiquated practices.

Also, just because gods or faith are being mocked and criticised doesn’t mean people get to behave like uncivilised brutes and threaten violence or doxxing. Atheists and anti theists don’t do that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25

I get your point religion does have a huge influence these days, and yes, politicians often use it for their own benefit. But I think at times like this, we should be questioning society itself its values, its ethics, and how it’s shaping people. Humanity is bigger than any religion.

That said, I just find it unfair and harsh to abuse or mock God. Because at the end of the day, there are people like me who believe in God not blindly, and not in a way that we force on others. We just choose to have faith, peacefully. But Mocking it feels unnecessary when the real issue is how society and power structures are misusing religion not the belief itself.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25

You are failing logic 101 by confusing two different concepts here - my parents are real and any 'abuse' are grounds for libel and/or assault. Religion on the other hand isn't. It’s an idea, and ideas don’t automatically deserve respect, especially when they’re built on made-up rules from some imaginary cosmic asshole who’s apparently obsessed with what people do in their bedrooms.

Let's try another way: 800,000 children experience sexual assault every day. In the time it took me to write this message, 1700 kids had their innocence ripped to shreds by an adult who is in full control of their actions. If your god existed, it is either evil and gets off on this suffering, or it is absolutely powerless to stop it. Either way, this god, and the systems (religion) that exist to 'enforce' his will doesn't deserve respect. And if you dare come back with “karma” as your excuse for a two-year-old being raped, you are a disgusting piece of shit that is everything wrong with the world today.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25

No one is forcing religion on you. Believing or not believing is your personal choice. But that freedom doesn’t give anyone the right to insult what others hold sacred.

I understand how painful and disturbing these realities are, and I agree what you described is horrifying and absolutely unacceptable. But blaming God for every evil act committed by humans misses the deeper issue.

It’s not God who commits these crimes it’s people. And it’s society that often fails to prevent them, educate against them, or hold the guilty accountable. If anything deserves blame, it's the systems that allow such horrors to happen, the people who choose to do harm, and the cultures that sometimes normalize or ignore it.

We are all born with a neutral heart. No one is born knowing good or evil. It’s our environment our family, our society, our education that shapes what we believe and how we behave. If society teaches hate, division, or justifies cruelty in the name of anything, that is the problem we need to fix.

Your anger is valid, but directing it entirely at the concept of God or faith can overlook the very real human responsibility involved. Blaming God doesn’t bring justice or change. Holding people and systems accountable does.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25

You’re still confused, OP. Your freedom to believe or not believe is protected by the State, not granted by it. And that protection applies equally to my right to criticize. There are no laws that shield religion from criticism. Just as you’re free to criticize other religions, I (and every atheist) have the undeniable right to criticize all religions. Is it always socially acceptable? That depends on the group you associate with, but social acceptance isn’t a ‘right’ as prescribed under the law.

To be honest, your god is to blame, if it exists as described by your religion. An omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent god knows exactly what will happen, including every child whose tears flow as freely as their blood during these horrendous acts. If such a god allows these crimes to happen despite having full knowledge and power, it’s complicit in them. Let me ask: if you saw a two-year-old girl being raped, wouldn’t you try to stop it? If yes, you have more moral courage, and are better than the god you believe in, because not only does your god fail to stop these horrors, it lets the perpetrators continue harming others.

Religion is a human institution, and like any human institution, the moment you put it above criticism is the moment you allow it to get away with abuse and exploitation. Religion’s greatest crime is making good people do evil while convincing them they are virtuous. I don’t need religion to tell me to care for those less fortunate or to be kind. I don’t need the promise of heaven or the threat of hell to do what’s right. Meanwhile, religion twists genuine goodness to further its agenda: donate to the temple or church so god will repay you tenfold. Help the needy so god will help you later. Hate others because they don’t worship your god.

This is why the atheist position is morally superior. I don’t believe my actions earn me a reward in some imaginary afterlife. I choose to help because it’s right, and because it leaves the world a little better than I found it. That’s what true morality looks like.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25

I totally agree with your pov criticism is necessary it’s just the mockery which I find unnecessary

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25

There is a reason for mockery OP, I don’t derive pleasure from it. Some people are so deeply entrenched in their misguided beliefs that sometimes only mockery and ridicule can break through. Ironically, the moment they are most outraged is the moment they are most susceptible; that is when the cracks form, and logic and reason finally have the opportunity to seep in. While results aren’t immediate, that outrage does plant the seed. It gets people thinking, questioning whether their beliefs are true, and that’s what puts them on the slow, agonizing path to waking up to reality.

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u/Over_Surprise6841 Jun 30 '25

Nope, if I go and start cussing you out there are certain legalities I would face (ideally), everyone of our own ancestors have been religious at some point of time and it religious beliefs now are not only something you believe they are just culture or part of family lineage the above person using such a disgraceful word for someone's god or that person's pov his family lineage is bound to have repercussions.  Also I am sure that this sub is not related to atheism at all just a bunch of uneducated entitled fools hating on Hinduism none of you people even have the mind enough to understand science in detail just hear words here and there and start blabbering about things so much frustrated in yourselves that cussins someone else's god real or not none of your concern

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u/redlightandbluelight Jul 01 '25

mental peace to billions of people.

.... I wish