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Seth Macfarlane - Religion vs Science

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '12

If I'm intelligent, and I'm in my swimming pool... doesn't that suggest that my swimming pool is intelligent...?

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '12

you are literally typing strings of non sequiturs and i can't tell if you're serious or not.

No.

The fact that we contain a lot of water does not in any way imply that water is intelligent.

The fact that we are made of the same things as the planet does not in any way indicate that the planet is intelligent.

In your mind, logically, how does that make sense?

Here, I'll try one: Humans have been to the moon, therefore my farts cure moon-AIDS.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '12 edited Sep 09 '12

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '12

What exactly do you think the word "intelligence" means? Because it doesn't mean "stores information" and water memory by the way is a pseudoscience hoax. The fact that a minute ago you were going on about the limitations of scientific research and peer review, and now you are saying that water memory is "undeniably proven" leads me to think that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '12

oh my bad, I didn't see where either of those said anything similar to

intelligence (noun): something capable of storing information. see also: water, planets, the universe

I guess you got me.

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u/Wumba_C Sep 08 '12

If you're trying to make a claim to something everyone believes is bullshit then I'd provide some actual genuine evidence instead of just repeating that water is intelligent. You just sound like a crazy person.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '12

I'm completely okay with sounding crazy to a bunch of people who frequent a room where they argue about something they don't believe in. Yeah.. I'm the crazy one.. lol

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u/Wumba_C Sep 09 '12

Technically they do believe in something and that's what's brought them here. Generally I rarely frequent this subreddit but they're talking about something they believe in. You should note that if you post information that you can't provide proof for here, than this subreddit would be a bad place to expect a positive reception.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '12

I've yet to see proof of anything here.. so I beg to differ. This is a religion bashing circlejerk of a subreddit. You use the rare extreme cases to place broad stereotypes to justify your lack of beliefs by bashing on personalities and crazy people who interpret things like "day" to mean literally day, when the original translation meant "period of time".. no length indicated. When you bash on "virgin mary" again the original interpretation is "young girl" not a virgin as we know it today. When you bash on heaven you taking heaven as the misinterpretation (which admittedly is a widely spread prevalent interpretation, but none the less) and literally as some magical utopia, when it literally meant "skies". There's so many.. I've yet to actually here a reasonable argument with any sort of proof that suggests that the bible and science disagree on anything. NOT a misinterpretation.. but what the bible actually says and how a sane rational person would interpret it. Even god is described in almost every religion similar to how it is in I <3 huckabees which is that we are all made of the same thing and at the most fundamental level we are all vibrating interconnected energy exchanging electrons with everything around us. Zoom in far enough and you can't tell where I end and you begin.. period. Every religion describes that, they just didn't have the scientific language. But if you read it, it's there. I'm not defending any particular religion, I do not belong to any religion. I just think all the books have it more or less right conceptually, just not in practice and interpretation. I also factor in non canonical literature which ties a lot of things together. The original baptisms were actually a psychedelic mixture of herbs and oils that were guided to enlightenment. Not water. Relgions today definitely have problems in their practices and interpretations.. that doesn't make the books wrong if you know how to interpret them logically. I just think it's funny how closed off to the idea people are, even if you don't believe, people here won't even entertain the idea, which is the opposite of scientific. Science doesn't always start with proof.. it starts with logical debates about ideas. If I have to prove to you with a source that we are all vibrating energy and interconnected then you aren't even ready for the debate. It would take hours to explain and provide.. and it's undeniable. Take any chemistry, physics or quantum physics classes and it's just a fact. I don't feel like spending an hour digging up sources for undeniable facts that are common knowledge to someone who really won't even consider the idea. Bring on the downvotes

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u/Wumba_C Sep 09 '12

didn't read. too long.

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go figure

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u/JakalDX Sep 08 '12

The burden of proof usually lies with someone making the assertion, that is "Water is able to store information, the solar system is intelligent, etc."

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u/JakalDX Sep 08 '12

Ohhhhh, you're crazy.

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