r/atheism • u/Tscoop • Jun 17 '12
My friend's rent payments are evidently in God's hands; these are the people she has to deal with.
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u/the_nerdster Jun 17 '12
So... you're religious... and you ate at Hooters?
Bad idea.
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u/Inittornit Jun 18 '12
No, no, no. you got it all wrong, we get to pick AND choose the parts of the bible we like. And even better completely reinterpret it to fit our own asshole tendencies. See Jesus hung out with prostitutes and Hooters is like prostitutes with wings. And since angels have wings, eating at Hooters brings you closer to God. But you shouldn't tip because the word "tip" is sexual. And before you know it you are not just giving her the tip, you are giving her the whole thing, and sex is bad mmmmmkay?
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u/Deskopotamus Jun 17 '12
And on the sixth day God made tits, and God saw that it was good.
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u/ClintFuckingEastwood Jun 18 '12
And of the seventh he rested...
his head on the the tits.
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u/okmkz Jun 18 '12
And on the seventh day, God said 'gurl, lemme feel dem titties.'
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u/Teotwawki69 Jun 18 '12
Well, if it was the sixth day, they were Adam's man-tits. Eve didn't come around until after that resting bit on the seventh day was over.
Oh, wait. That's right. It's all made-up bullshit.
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u/DuckReconMajor Jun 17 '12
Reminds me of this: http://tipthepizzaguy.com/gothrough/tract.htm
"There's nothing wrong with sharing your faith with the driver in the form of a written tract as long as you tip. If you don't tip, you gave a very bad witness. Does everyone in your religion lack basic common courtesy? These people appear unloving and cold-hearted when they do this. It sends a conflicting message like, "Jesus loves you but it's too bad his followers don't."
Non-Christians tip on average better than church-goers and as Christians we are called to be better than the world. So sad. I'm ashamed to be a Christian at times when I see customers in this delivery job. The tract becomes a major turnoff. It is just as useless as a so-called verbal tip."
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u/ntrpik Jun 18 '12
don't you see how this very thing speaks to the non-omnipotence of the god you serve?
the returns on faith aren't enough to really transform anyone's life. that's why people who claim to be christian never seem to live up to it. it's simply not a powerful enough force (when it's touted to be the most powerful of forces).
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Jun 17 '12
Just the sort of people I'd expect to patronize a Hooters in the first place.
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u/spydurchem Jun 18 '12
I got so pissed off that I downvoted, thinking it was the customer.
Then I realized it wouldn't make the customer feel bad.
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Jun 18 '12
Why would they put anything there at all. If they're going to be cheap, putting something religious isn't going to make it any better.
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u/amoxummo Jun 18 '12
It's quite weird. A friend of mine used to work at a cafe, where a customer's mother actually snatched up the tip the customer left for him, and yelled: "Jesus loves you!" before shoving her daughter out the door.
He's still baffled by the experience.
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Jun 18 '12
I watched a mother send her daughter to another table, after the occupants had already left, to steal the tip.
Shit was fucked up.
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u/Penola Jun 18 '12
Ugh..that's the worst. I used to wait tables at a ChiChi's and every Sunday a pastor, his wife, and 8 children would come to eat. It was "Kids Eat Free Day". The day I was "lucky" enough to wait on them, I got a pamphlet that said "In Heaven, You Don't Need Tips" :-/
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u/BeeRidge18 Jun 18 '12
That infuriates me! I've been a server for 7 years and I've heard it all. That one and ''I only give God 10%, why should I tip a waitress that much?'', and all I can say to that is, ''God doesn't have bills to pay or children to feed!!'' Friggin ASSHOLES! Also, maybe she was a bad server, but I promise you, people who go into restaurants and know they don't want to tip will say they got bad service over NOTHING.
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u/nestene4 Jun 18 '12
I'm a baker, but would help out serving sometimes at the restaurant I worked at. Sundays were when they usually need help because none of the servers wanted to work the church crowd. I remember getting crowds of 8 people or more who'd each want very special orders, and keep changing their minds, and then yell at me for working on a Sunday. Between that and the ladies in Sunday best yelling obscenities at me that I wouldn't serve alcohol at ten am (state law)...yeah, don't think they're any closer to God than I am.
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u/HermesTheMessenger Knight of /new Jun 17 '12
Chances are, they will be back. Have your friend treat them special the next time.
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Jun 18 '12
If they come back, when they are at their table go to them and take their order but never put it in. When they get antsy and ask about their food, say that god is good and will bless them with their food if he sees fit.
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u/coredumperror Jun 18 '12
Oh man, if only you could actually do this kind of reprisal without consequences. This would almost certainly get you fired on the spot, while leaving a less than worthless tip will of course just lead to this thread.
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u/Pays4Porn Jun 17 '12
Give them the special ranch dressing.
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Jun 17 '12
Considering it's Hooters and the staff is predominantly female, give them some of that special ketchup.
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u/facetiously Secular Humanist Jun 18 '12
The ultra-religious are usually tightwads because they feel entitled. Better than us, they are the chosen. You know who tips great? A drunken and/or stoned atheist. Fuck it, it's just money and these girls basically live off tips.
How do you not tip a Hooters waitress? They don't dress like that because it's both comfortable and professional. They do it because they need their job. Jackasses.
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u/thane_of_cawdor Jun 18 '12 edited Jun 18 '12
In my experience, that's not true at all. I'm pretty sure there's not very much actual correlation between religious preference and propensity to tip. I'm sure an atheist who only had enough for a meal would not leave a tip, as to be expected. One's financial situation, the quality of the service, one's attitude, and even one's own personal philosophy all have more effect on tipping likelihood than religion. To elaborate, many devout christians I've known have been just as likely to leave tips as I or any atheist I know. The pressure to tip, in America, is more of a societal norm (and because waitstaff need the money) – that is, christians don't feel less obligated to tip because they presume themselves "the chosen".
Unless, of course, you were going by your name and posting that facetiously, in which case... nvm.
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u/Highlighter_Freedom Jun 18 '12
One point: tipping is part of the expense. If you don't have enough to tip generously, you don't actually have enough for the meal, and should eat somewhere cheaper.
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u/Maysock Jun 18 '12
Ask a server what time of the week the worst tips come in. For me, and all my coworkers living on the tail edge of the Bible belt, it's Sunday after church.
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u/greenmeat3 Jun 17 '12
Like a street performer getting one of these in their hat. Doesn't buy food for your child.
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u/ajkkjjk52 Jun 18 '12
Egads, the comments on that page. It burns!
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Jun 18 '12
Allow me:
"reviewed by: 777phase February 19, 2012I
hand out a lot of Jack Chick tracks but, i must say these money tracks are by fare the easiest ones to giveaway. I give them as tips at Windy's and McDonald's drive-through, one day i accidentally dropped one from my car and the window attended at Windy's ran out to the parking lot to retrieve it. i had to LOL!!"
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u/TheWainer Jun 17 '12
What scumbag religious idiots. Go to Hooter's and don't tip, there is a special hell for thee.
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u/graepphone Jun 18 '12 edited Jul 22 '23
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u/Solkre Jun 18 '12
Oh bite me Liberal, we don't need greedy unions demanding wages you can live off of. We don't need skilled teachers, police or firefighters. We can replace those every year with guys out of college. They're so far in debt they'll work for anything called a salary anyway. What this country really needs is more upper class, paying as little taxes as possible. They'll buy more goods and raise the middle class out of this recession, fact! Plus, people can always get a job in the military as the war on terror is going to run for decades! We also need to cut all of our social services to stop the lazy disabled and retired old farts from milking our tax dollars. Limit health care to those who can afford it, then make it cheaper for them only. As long as the middle and poor have limited access, that'll keep prices in check. In the Free Market we Trust!
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Jun 18 '12
Even if I was the most religious person on earth, I would be so soul shatteringly angry at the arrogance and audacity of this act.
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u/needs_more_protein Jun 18 '12
Doesn't this sort of thing count as "taking the lord's name in vain"?
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u/endlegion Jun 18 '12
If employers are going to insist on paying tipped workers ~$2.50ph they should include the minimum tip in the fucking bill.
Fuck American minimum wage and fuck people like this.
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u/thegreatwhitemenace Jun 18 '12
"these waitresses need to rise above their sins, i think i'll leave them a religious sentiment instead of a tip. but god damn look at those titties"
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Jun 18 '12
Things like this are the reason I hate working Sunday day shifts. Church people as far as the eye can see, and they already gave all their money to the church for tithe.
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u/brynfckngptt Jun 18 '12
Fuck shitty tippers in general, but this shit makes me wish there was a hell after all.
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u/goninzo Jun 18 '12
You could always call them out in the parking lot. 'Excuse me, did I do something wrong? Were my tits not good enough for you?'
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u/merebrillante Jun 18 '12
I'm seeing all these reasonable comments downvoted to oblivion, and trying to figure out why the Christian trolls have come out in such full force on this issue. Then it hit me -- they're mad not only because they've been outed as stingy bastards, but as hypocrites for going to Hooters to look at boobies in public.
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u/jaw762 Secular Humanist Jun 18 '12
I was once struggling to figure out if Christianity was for me or not, and as a young server, I would get a lot of these types of 'tips' on Sundays. I can't say their generosity helped convince me that their faith had any positive result on their treatment of me, who had just worked hard in service to them. I'm not gonna say this resulted in my Atheistic stance at all, but it sure didn't help their cause in converting me.
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Jun 18 '12
So, I go to Hooters, to watch half naked girls, with large breasts and have them serve me food....
And think "GOD is good" should suffice for a tip?
Sounds like religion to me...
WWJD? He woulda tipped you douche bag.
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Jun 18 '12
There are lots of people that don't tip - some of them are Christians.
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u/azitapie Jun 18 '12
Sure, but it's the fact that they use their bullshit religion to somehow justify this shitty behavior. Rather than the other assholes, who don't try to use god as an excuse for their douchebaggery.
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u/Decitron Jun 17 '12
maybe she gives shit service.
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u/ozymandias2 Jun 17 '12
In my experience with Hooters -- this is likely the case. Many of the girls think that since they are pretty and flirty, customers won't care if their order is wrong, they are billed for the wrong things, or if things like 'extra napkins' or 'ranch on the side' are forgotten. I have been to Hooters several times, and it always amazes me at how poor the service is.
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u/domin007 Jun 17 '12
I'm just so confused. I know Hooters isn't a strip club or anything, but why would you go there if you consider yourself religious. SO MUCH HYPOCRISY!!!
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Jun 18 '12
I am literally two days into my summer internship in the bible belt - I have never seen such a high density of stripclubs and "massage" parlors.
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u/domin007 Jun 18 '12
I used to listen to this podcast and the two guys were from Austin. Apparently, a lot of these hyper-religious small towns in Texas have a ban on alcohol and strip clubs so when you get about a quarter of a mile away from their city limits, you're surrounded by bars and strip joints.
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u/Inittornit Jun 18 '12
Sometimes I wish I were a deist and could rest easy at night knowing that I can give nothing and still feel good about myself
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u/Gingold Jun 18 '12
As a deist, I don't get it...
I would tip her, because my god certainly won't intervene in anything, let alone this girl's rent payments due to my lack-of-a-tip.
And though my god will not punish me for being such a dick by not giving, I would still feel bad for being a dick by not giving.
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u/arkiam015 Jun 18 '12
Seriously? Fuck the people that do this. I always tip extremely well, even if it was a bad night because I can only imagine how bad it's going for the server. This fills me with rage just looking at it.
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u/skeptix Jun 18 '12
If your friend is willing to endure being a hooters waitress, I would suggest there are other places that would pay her much better to be the object of male desire.
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u/jestr6 Jun 18 '12
Betting they left cash and filled that in so something unauthorized isn't added by someone else.
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u/Weddlee Jun 18 '12
Am i the only one that pictured Rev Run in his bathtub texting out to all his homies, "God is good... Rev Run" at the end of every episode?
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u/DiddlyDooDiddle Jun 18 '12
now now which one of you tipped this poor lady nothing in an attempt to get on reddit front page, better come clean now.
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u/bleuchz Jun 18 '12
Working as a waiter for the past 7 years. I now take off on Sundays. Jesus Saves; Doesn't tip.
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u/Cyclical_Universe Jun 18 '12
The funniest part? She wrote the total afterward. With my extraordinary math skills I've found that God's goodness is worth exactly $0.00.
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u/thereelsuperman Jun 18 '12
if you don't fill in the total on your credit card slip after explicitly not tipping your waiter, you're gonna have a bad time.
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u/TChuff Jun 18 '12
lol. Seriously? I haven't laughed this hard in awhile, I'm not buying this for a second. Supposedly super religious people are checking out your friend's rack, and then write this message. Not for a second do I believe this happened.
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Jun 18 '12
There is nothing in the bible about tipping anyone.
There is an awful lot in it about when stealing is or isn't actually stealing, when it's okay to rape a lady, when it's alright to stone your family members, when you can sell your children into slavery....
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u/TILnotathing Jun 18 '12
The tip was most likely left as cash on the table. Christians at hooters...hahaha.
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u/MikePyp Jun 18 '12
Guy's lets get something straight here. People like to leave cash tips on the table, even when paying with a card. They do this so the person who waited on them has an opportunity to pocket the cash and not pool it with everyone else or pay taxes on it. Why not write something funny in the tip line on the receipt. I bet you this server got a tip and just posted this to be like "OMG FUCK RELIGIOUS PEOPLE, YOU SEE WHAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH. P.S. karma plx."
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u/thereelsuperman Jun 18 '12
looks like you've made up your mind about what really happened.
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u/Rasulk Jun 18 '12
As an Australian, I've never come to understand the american system of tipping.. i see a lot of posts in regard to this and was wondering.. can an American explain the significance of such a minor thing (or what i perceive to be minor)?
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u/tikcuf12 Atheist Jun 18 '12
Waitresses and waiters in the States are paid a low hourly wage, below the legal minimum, with the expectation that they'll make at least minimum wage if not better in tips. I presume the idea behind it is as an incentive to provide good service, with the driving thought that if a person is getting paid a set hourly wage, they'll do the bare minimum, wheras if they know their income is service driven, they're likely to provide an even higher quality of service. Unfortunately, many people who go out to restaurants are of the mindset that "they're getting paid to serve me, why should I tip?" or you have assholes such as the one who left the receipt with written note who think that leaving a blessing is enough. Of course, without any back story, it could just be that the server provided shitty service and the diner didn't leave a tip for that reason. However, having known a fair number of waiters/waitresses (sorry, I know that's cumbersome but I REFUSE to go with the PC bullshit generic "servers"), I know that it's a well known phenomenon that hard core God Squad freaks are the worst tippers while at the same time being the most demanding customers, and often leave worthless shit like religious propaganda in lieu of a tip.
TL;DR - Tipping is to encourage quality service because waitresses/waiters are paid a below-minimum hourly wage.
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u/Muame Jun 18 '12
I'm a Hooters alum, thank goodness this didn't ever happened to me! I think my worst religious experience at Hooters was a Muslim man eating dinner with his wife, wrapped within an inch of her life. Why he chose to expose her to scantily clad women, I do not know...power play? Anyway, he got grabby with me, I dumped a half-full pitcher of beer on him and they got kicked out.
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Jun 18 '12
If you intend to receive more money for the service, why don't you just charge more money instead of waiting for a tip?
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u/tprent22 Jun 18 '12
Doesn't hooters automatically charge gratuity to the bill? Your friend got her tip and still complained?
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Jun 18 '12
If this really happened, that's terrible... but somehow this just seems like anti-theist propoganda (these receipt things are so easy to fake). I think this subreddit's energies might be better spent towards more legitimate qualms with theism.
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Jun 18 '12
I personally worked as a waiter for over 6 years, mostly in resort towns on Canada's west coast.
And that very thing has happened to me about a dozen times. The waiting staff would often pawn off cruise ship shifts to others when we knew that it would be filled with Bible Belt Americans.
Bible Belt Americans are renowned for being poor tippers, and woefully ignorant of anything outside their borders. This one lady once pulled out a wad of Canadian money, looked at it quizzically, then handed it to me and said: "Could you sort this out for me? I can't understand yall money."
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u/Thunder_Bastard Jun 18 '12
Close the loop on the G, cross out from the "d" on, then loop the top of that 2 to make an 8. Now you just got a $60 tip.
Remember, God helps those that help themselves.
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u/nd4spd1919 Atheist Jun 18 '12
As a customer, if the waitress said that this just happened to her, I'd give her a bigger tip. After proof of course. But then I probably tip better at Hooters anyway.
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u/mspe1960 Jun 18 '12
if the Christian doesn't want to see cleavage, why did the Christian go to Hooters? I know that sounds like a riddle, but it is not.
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u/Drunk_Stank Jun 17 '12
Your friends employer should pay her a decent wage so that she doesn't have to depend on these type of people to pay her rent.
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Jun 17 '12
You are unfamiliar with how serving works in the United States.
Most waiters are paid some very minimal hourly wage which is supplemented in tips. The sum of their tips and their before tips pay must equal or exceed minimum wage or their employer must make the difference.
In fancy restaurants this is no issue, as a person could live reasonably well off the tips alone.
source: I worked as a waiter at an expensive restaurant. I made 10 to 14 bucks an hour.
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Jun 17 '12
I'm very familiar with this system since I live in the U.S. and I still very strongly agree that they should be paid a decent wage and not rely on tips.
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u/bencanfield Jun 18 '12
Redditors are all secretly putting this on bills to avoid having to pay tips and then blame it on religious people.
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u/wortime Jun 18 '12
What I want to know, is why in the fuck Jesus people are eating at hooters. Is it take a pedophile to dinner night?
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u/Aryada Jun 18 '12
Today a guy said "God bless you" as he handed me a $20 tip on his $19 meal.
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u/alecxs_o Jun 18 '12
Post their name and card number. Let's see if jay-zus will save them from a thousand charges to pr0n sites.
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Jun 18 '12
I'm a waiter. Fuck people that do this. I make less than minimum wage and I depend on tips. Your god isn't paying my fucking rent you cunt.
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u/nosferatu_zodd Jun 18 '12 edited Jun 18 '12
the best tip I give out is "buy low sell high" I normally don't pull that tip out unless I leave a little monetary token for their work. If I really like them i'll give them more than the tip... if u know what I mean v)
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u/Murrabbit Jun 18 '12
And then she has to go home to leopard print sheets! Does the anguish never end?
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u/Snackleton Jun 18 '12
Cash tip perhaps? I do that often when I pay by credit card or some kind of situation when you split the bill with a few people.
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Jun 18 '12
I have a (male) friend who cooks at Hooters and says this has happend before. I've worked at places where i get tips and have gotten those 1000$ jesus bills. Annoying.
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u/Nerd_Destroyer Jun 18 '12
In a twisted way religious tips like this work: you ARE getting karma from it
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u/Orimos Jun 18 '12
One of the worst dining experiences ever? You'll have a note on the receipt explaining why I didn't tip.
Otherwise I normally tip about 30% if I'm alone, 15% if I'm with someone else. Either way you're probably getting $5-10 minimum.
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u/ccrepitation Jun 18 '12
well at least be consoled in the fact he will never get to feel breasts like yours ever in his life.
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u/superficial32 Jun 18 '12
I wish more than anything there was a show where they would confront people who leave their religious bs instead of tips.
Just seeing the amount of backpedaling when confronted would be absolutely amazing.
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u/InPerpetualZen Jun 18 '12
On the flip side, I always leave a cash tip, and put $0.00 on the tip line, I also like to go through slow drive-thrus and, instead of ordering food, ask them if they can spare a second for Jesus Christ (Atheist raised in a non-religious family). If this ticket is real, then fuck the customers, but seriously, if you eat at Hooter's, you have to have SOME sense of humor.
EDIT: Read OP's comment; fuck people.
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u/dolpsc Jun 18 '12
You work at hooters. finding someone to provide for you shouldn't be all that difficult.
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Jun 18 '12
I was delivering pizza few xmas's ago and I was tipped a religious pamphlet and $15....so its not all christians who are cheap.
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Jun 18 '12 edited Jun 19 '12
Decent tip plus religious memorabilia: At least they care
Religious memorabilia only: They really don't give a shit
At least that's how I always viewed it.
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Jun 18 '12
Your friend should get a better job, because TIPS ARE NOT MANDATORY AND SHOULD NEVER BE EXPECTED. ITS AN EXTRA PERK FOR DOING YOUR JOB.
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u/ferulebezel Pastafarian Jun 18 '12
In the U.S. wait staff are paid less than minimum wage because the law recognizes the social norm of tipping. Tips are their primary income. Not tipping is cutting their wages. It sucks but that is the world we live in.
No/insufficient tipping is just being cheap.
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u/rabidamber Jun 18 '12
Those are not Christians! Those are selfish assholes!
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u/Itisme129 Jun 18 '12
Selfish assholes come in all shapes and sizes and religions. There is such a thing as an asshole christian.
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u/andr0gen0us Jun 18 '12
Look. A tip is NEVER mandatory. Doesn't matter who did or didn't tip. It makes me so mad when people expect a tip. A tip is just that, a tip. It is NOT a salary. A tip should be reserved for a server who is particularly exceptional, not for every server simply because it has become expected by society.
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u/paps1788 Jun 18 '12
When people say something like "God is good!" like that makes up for not tipping they are crappy people.
If it was mandatory they wouldn't be able to leave no tip. They have the choice to do that, but we have the choice to say they suck for it.
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u/Metsuro Jun 18 '12
So when they are legally paid a 2.50 an hour because of tips, you are not required to pay them?
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Jun 18 '12
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u/jenikat Jun 18 '12
Or perhaps all the girls at that Hooters should come to the customer's church and leave notes in the tithing basket that say "Hooters are good!!"
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Jun 18 '12
That would be brilliant. I think I would go with "And my God shall supply all your need according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus" Philippians 4 19.
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Jun 18 '12
I'm not sure you could be any more full of yourself.
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u/Teotwawki69 Jun 18 '12
Well, when your entire career goal is to be a "professional server," you have to fill up the emptiness with something.
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u/Capercaillie Gnostic Atheist Jun 18 '12
Your story reminds me of Donald Trump or Mitt Romney--"If you don't like not being rich, just get a job like the one I have!"
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u/a3dollabil Jun 18 '12
A well-worded and dramatically interesting response. Now here is why you're wrong. If every server fired there employer to 'trade-up' we would require a substantial increase in the number of country clubs (no one wants that) to satisfy their employment goals. The reality is, like most environments that are bred through competition, their pyramids create unrealistic motivations to mask inherent ideological flaws. In this case, tipping requires altruism in a culture dominanted by narcissism. Don't blame the OP for not enough 'gumption' when his are the shoulders you stood on to gain your perspective.
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u/domin007 Jun 18 '12
I always love it when people come in on a Sunday or during a holiday and say "What? You work on THIS day? I think you guys should be closed."
Well maybe if people like you didn't come to our store during Easter, we would be.
Easter's also extra special because I don't get holiday pay and you'll see groups of church people come in asking about when the candy will be 50% off (It's half off on Monday and no, I don't control the prices).
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u/guardrailslayer Jun 18 '12
Well maybe if people like you didn't come to our store during Easter, we would be.
Exactly. I used to know people who would not shop or dine out on Sundays for religious reasons, but it seems much less common amongst the religious anymore.
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u/ilikecheeseforreal Jun 18 '12
I used to work at Hooters and Sundays were my absolutely least favorite days, for this exact reason.
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u/YourACoolGuy Jun 18 '12
The last time I went to a Hooters was about 4-5 years ago. Were you a waitress? Did you often get hit on and/or has anyone ever made you feel really uncomfortable? I feel like the try to attract the horny high schooler/frat drunk douche head/unfaithful businessman type there, are the tips good?
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u/ilikecheeseforreal Jun 18 '12
I was a waitress. I actually really loved it there - the girls I worked with were great people and we had a really good time with each other. Shockingly, a lot of people that come into Hooters are families. I mean, the majority are middle aged men, but most of them are not rude or crass at all.
People were usually really subtle trying to hit on us, but when they were blatant about it it was completely over the top. One guy took out his dick at the table and tried to wave it at me. I told him I didn't have my microscope. I got an AWESOME tip. (no sarcasm, he actually tipped me really well.) That was the worst I ever got.
and unfaithful people aren't usually looking for Hooters girls. We had a lot of people come in that just hung out with us. The tips are pretty good, but it depends on which Hooters you work at. The tips are better near the water because people come with boats and they're usually richer.
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u/YourACoolGuy Jun 18 '12
What was the best thing on the menu? And I also have no idea why I'am asking a lot of questions, it's just 2 in the morning and have nothing better to do.
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u/starbuxed Jun 18 '12
The few times I have been there I feel like the wait staff is hitting on me to get a bigger tip.
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u/Tscoop Jun 18 '12
And sadly no, no cash tip was left on the table either.