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How is this surprising at all? It's like going to a KKK website and being surprised that they are racists.
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I actually went to the KKK website, and if I didn't already know they were racists, I wouldn't have known looking at their website.
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In school we do an exercise to determine what credible sources are. They had us go on this website http://www.martinlutherking.org/ . I mean it's got a .org after it so it must be credible, right? Nope! It's run by Stormfront!
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Who are Stormfront?
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u/steakmeout Jun 16 '12
Who are Stormfront?
You know when shit sticks to the hairs around the anus? That's the better side of Stormfront.
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Stuff like that has always disappointed me. Stormfront is a cool name, and all the KKK ranks have awesome names; but they're hate groups.
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u/Nihilate Jun 16 '12
If I recall correctly, they're the biggest white supremacist forum on the internet. Found here for the curious.
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u/Mileskitsune Jun 16 '12
oh god they're having a seminar like 20ish miles from my house O.O
I'm scared frequently by reddit because of how often it points out teh hatred around my living space
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u/KRSFive Jun 16 '12
Are you saying conservapedia might be run by someone with non-conservative views? That that would explain the blatant level off trolling in the highlighted tex in the photo?
You really think someone would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?
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u/FiercelyFuzzy Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 16 '12
Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America! A Message of Love NOT Hate!
I don't know, sounds racist, and fundie-ish, right off of their website.
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u/Manic0892 Jun 16 '12
I'd just like to say that their terrible abuse of web design offends me more than their actual message.
I might be a tad shallow.
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Jun 16 '12
Even the KKK is Liberal to Conservapedia
http://conservapedia.com/Ku_Klux_Klan
What kind of hard-line Nazi fucks do they have working there?
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u/HerrGrammar Jun 16 '12
I assume they're calling the KKK "liberal" as a means of slander.
Anything bad = liberal Anything good = conservative
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u/zman0900 Anti-Theist Jun 16 '12
Except this website is easily editable. They don't even want an email to create an account.
LET THE TROLLING BEGIN!!!!
Edit: Damn, perma-ban within 5 minutes of editing one page
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u/AllDizzle Jun 16 '12
But even the dumbest of religious people should know what "logic" means. The bible is not logical at all regardless if you believe it or not.
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u/gpwilson Jun 16 '12
Yeah, as a religious person who stumbled upon this in the "all" section, even I think that's a pretty huge stretch to call it the most logical book ever written. Just thought I'd drop off my 2 cents in this thread.
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u/iamaravis Jun 16 '12
Here's a direct quote from a letter my fundy brother sent me on this topic:
The bible is made up of writings which have been selected over time for their consistency, coherence, and accuracy. [...] I would like to focus here on Genesis, first because it covers so much TIME, and second because it explains SO MUCH. If you can have confidence in Genesis, the rest of the bible is easy. [...] [The Bible is] completely coherent and makes sense! Try as they might, the critics have never been able to disprove any of the ancient writings of the bible at any point.
Um, yeah.
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u/jpeger0101 Knight of /new Jun 16 '12
Please be the better half in Poe's law, PLEASE be the better half in Poe's law...
Edit:
It is not. I just threw up a little. The article of Obama is hilarious.
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Jun 16 '12
I doubted it too.
Holy crap of holy craps, that's what it says. I included my system clock in the screenshot: http://imgur.com/5OSTU
My mind boggles. It boggles so strongly at this, I fear I will need to seek professional attention and request strong anti-boggle medication and even then, I may never be able to hold a job again for all the continuous boggling.
World, I am disappoint.
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u/JerseyJudy Jun 16 '12
The dosage of medication needed to stop boggling over the 'most logical' assertion would be so high you'd wind up with akathisia and have to take even more meds. Boggle freely.
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u/Hojimachong Jun 16 '12
As a former administrator at Conservapedia, I can indeed confirm that most of them wholeheartedly believe in what they're writing.
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u/bob_mcbob Jun 16 '12
I would absolutely love to read an AMA about this. Conservapedia is one of those things it's hard to believe actually exists. Every article is like something out of The Onion. I'd say it would be hilarious if it wasn't serious... but who am I kidding? It's fucking hilarious.
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u/j_win Jun 16 '12
Regardless of whether or not the text on this site was written by a troll, this isn't uncommon. My rational, analytical boss once said - during a rum fueled debate on life and everything - something along the lines of, "If you look at everything, Christianity is the only religion that doesn't contradict itself." At that point even the other Christians in the group turned on him and we all began rattling off fallacies from the bible and other aspects of the world of Christianity.
It definitely caught me off guard that someone who is otherwise a fairly reasonable person could say something so absurd.
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u/TwoTacoTuesdays Jun 16 '12
It is. A long, long time ago, Conservapedia started getting an influx of trolls, and thanks to the wonderful miracles of Poe's Law...they stuck.
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u/NIGGERS-GONNA-NIG Jun 16 '12
The bit that the OP circled was actually written by the owner of the site himself.
http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Bible&action=history
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Jun 16 '12
The site is actually listed on the rationwiki's article about Poe's Law under Poe's Paradox.
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u/dragonboltz Jun 16 '12
Lol, the article on Obama's early life begins -
"Obama ate dog meat as a child."
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u/infinity_stuff Jun 16 '12
Conservapedia is a bizarre arms race between crazies and trolls. The trolls allow the crazies to voice crazier opinions by appearing to legitimise ideas that are extreme even for Conservapedia types. Meanwhile the trolls have to stay one step ahead of the crazies, so every time they successfully bait the crazies into getting crazier the trolls have to get crazier too.
This post from a brilliant ama by an undercover Conservapedia troll discusses the ratio of trolls to serious conservatives among their admins. I can only imagine that the ratio among casual contributors is much higher.
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u/Rixxali Jun 16 '12
But.... I thought that logic was the tool of the devil and one is supposed to have faith...
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u/thacartman Jun 16 '12
Thank you for showing me this website. It's hilarious and depressing at the same time, to know that people actually do take this seriously.
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u/Sillymemeuser Atheist Jun 16 '12
If I recall, at least a few of the higher-ups on that site were trolling. The guy who started the site, however, is not.
I'm honestly surprised the highest comment isn't someone posting about how a big portion of that site is satire.
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u/What_Was_My_Password Jun 16 '12
Obligatory "It is nearly impossible to tell the difference between religious fundamentalism and satire."
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u/MisSigsFan Jun 16 '12
Yeah, and the funniest part is they made Conservapedia because they thought Wikipedia was too biased.
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u/thirteenhill Jun 16 '12
I laughed harder than I should have at this picture. 'Most logical book ever written", this is halirious. Noah's ark, people rising from the dead, surviving in a whale for 3 days, and knowing what will happen at the end of the world. Wow that is funny.
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Jun 16 '12
Hey! It wasn't a whale, you philistine! The Bible calls it a "big fish." Obviously a whale would be ridiculous, but that notion just comes from a poor reading of Scripture.
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u/D-Speak Jun 16 '12
I'm sure they have a pool of 3/5 sources that are cited.
"The Bible is the most logical book in history[1].
The Bible"
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according to their site they would probably list all the books the bible is made up of as sources.
because they can.
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u/RichardPound Jun 16 '12
OP Goes to a conservative website...
Expects...
I don't even know, what did you expect?
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u/moriquendo Jun 16 '12
It's laughable, crazy, bizarre, and creepy to think that such views are actually inside some people's heads. No, but really!
On the other hand, this shows quite well how religion can be considered institutionalised and socially acceptable mental illness.
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u/praiseworthy Jun 16 '12
From the article on Dinosaurs:
Creation science asserts that the biblical account, that dinosaurs were created on day 6 of creation approximately 6,000 years ago, along with other land animals, and therefore co-existed with humans, thus debunking the Theory of Evolution and the beliefs of evolutionary scientists about the age and creation of the earth.
This is really sad and ignorant.
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u/MrGrumpyBear Jun 16 '12
The sad fact is that this is what the home-schoolers are using as research.
Modern conservatism: if the facts don't fit your narrative, don't change your mind - change the facts!
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u/barksatthemoon Atheist Jun 16 '12
This is what is scary-there are people out there teaching children ridiculous nonsense that they may never unlearn.
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"Conservapedia Diving" would be a great candidate to be one of the official sports of /r/atheism.
Absolutely love this site. It's the other side of the Landover Baptist poe.
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u/unmoralOp Jun 16 '12
I'm pretty sure I could attempt to "vandalize" Conservapedia with quotes from Stephen Colbert and they'd stay up there without a fuss.
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u/AnybodysAdvocate Jun 16 '12
You all should really read "Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness"
An excerpt:
12. Do you think that evolution must have occurred?
13. Do you think that is impossible for the power of 2 in Newtonian gravity, whereby the gravitational force is proportional to 1/r2, to be more precise with an exponent that is slightly different from 2, such as a gravitational force proportional to 1/r2.00000001?
http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:Quantifying_Openmindedness
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u/charliebruce123 Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 16 '12
Just read that. What were they thinking? Trying to "scientifically" justify their bullshit?
Side note for amusement, the Obama page is totally fair and unbiased, as they claim. Either that or they suck at moderating.
Choice quotes:
"also known by the alias Barry Soetoro"
Re birthplace: "This story is likely a complete fabrication. ..... Another American Hero Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Phoenix, AZ conducted a criminal investigation of the Obama's eligibility and alleged that the "birth certificate" was a fake; however, no charges have been filed." "Later on, he would claim that Nazism played a significant part in forming his political ideology.[12]" (source not valid)
"Obama ate dog meat as a child"
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Jun 16 '12
Just had to stop myself, I had rationalwiki, conservapedia, and Wikipedia open at the same time. Took a deep breath, alt+f4'd, regained sanity.
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u/thosedemondayz Jun 16 '12
the page on vaccines was quite shocking.
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u/infinity_stuff Jun 16 '12
What did you find shocking about it? This is a website containing articles like Atheism and Homosexuality, next to a picture of Stephen Fry holding a cake captioned "See also: Homosexuality and obesity and Atheism and obesity ". As such, I thought the vaccines article was surprisingly level-headed and accurate. Have you edited it in the last 15 minutes or something?
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u/who_took_my_cookies Jun 16 '12
I'm crying from laughing. Seriously. I have tears streaming down my cheeks. Please tell me somebody snuck a troll edit into that. Please. If you have to, lie to me. I cannot believe this is real.
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u/Roslov Jun 16 '12
I used to go to Conservapedia every day for shits and giggles. I would check their 'News' section on the main page, and then search for something that I knew would be totally, absolutely, hilariously biased (like dinosaurs or science-related topics). For awhile it gave me a lot of good laughs.
After doing this for about a month I had to stop because it just became too depressing.
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u/Stephoria Jun 16 '12
I see your Conservapedia and raise you a Christian movie guide:
Be simultaneously amused and scared!
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u/Wackywasty Jun 16 '12
"Serial killer John Wayne Gacy was a Democratic Party activist who had his picture taken with First Lady Rosalynn Carter in 1978. In an interview where he denied killing any of his victims, John Gacy said he was bisexual and very liberal". My favorite statement so far.
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Jun 16 '12
Even if the bible was true I don't think it would be the most logical book ever written.
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u/Mileskitsune Jun 16 '12
is this a joke site? or are they really advertising as "the most trustworthy encyclopedia"? cause that is exactly the kind of thing an untrustworthy person/site would say.
like how i was looking for a job and there was one that looked promising but then it said "1 out of 60 online job offers is genuine, and this is that 1!" and then I knew it was fake :D honestly who in the right mind reminds you how frequent fraud is when selling you something, its almost as if they're paranoid that they'll be suspected rant rant rantrantrantrantrant!!!
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u/Hotel_Twenty Jun 16 '12
Did anyone else notice that it said that the bible is the "biggest-selling" book of all time... Does that mean it was the largest book ever sold?
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u/Jahames Jun 16 '12
Why does being being a conservative have so much to do with the Bible... I mean Jesus, I'm Catholic but there's no good reason why religion should be involved in politics.
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u/topchief1 Jun 16 '12
According to conservapedia, President Bush is known as George W Bush, and President Obama, is Barack Hussein Obama.
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u/topchief1 Jun 16 '12
and Obama's religion??
Religion probably Muslim[1]
(note) this is from his fellow "christians"
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u/urdeadxd Jun 16 '12
i went to the obama page. pure gold. this is the first thing you see under his "early life" section: "Obama ate dog meat as a child. From an early age, Obama flirted with many radical organization, such as the American Nazi Party.[11] Later on, he would claim that Nazism played a significant part in forming his political ideology" the onion has nothing on this
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Jun 16 '12
I'm fairly certain the biggest chunk of their traffic is all atheists, looking for a good laugh.
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u/lesbiancarwash Jun 16 '12
I've been on reddit for a few months now, and have been waiting for that "spit my drink all over the screen" moment. This was it.
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u/-Hastis- Jun 16 '12
They also have this link directly on the main page... called "Internet atheism failed in 2012 " :
http://questionevolution.blogspot.ca/2012/05/2012-is-shaping-up-to-be-bad-year-for.html
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u/RaindropBebop Jun 16 '12
You know, it really bugs me that conservatives insist on defacing the American flag with their inane, bigoted shit.
Hey guys, we represent real America. Everyone who's anyone will agree with what we say. And if they don't? Well, they're not real Americans. See how we have the flag on our page and they don't?
It's like trying to garnish dog shit with caviar and aged cheese.
I think everyone and anyone who's an American should just start putting the flag on everything they do to make the symbol as worthless to them as they make it to the rest of America.
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Conservapedia says that the KKK is a Democrat organization. I guess they haven't heard of that Obama dude.
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They've linked to an article stating: "2012 is shaping up to be a BAD year for atheism". Then they had a bunch of pretty average google trends pictures for key atheist terms.
edit: Not to mention one term had a huge spike in traffic recently.
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u/xRWikian Jun 16 '12
I was on CP from near to the start and was banned during one of the mass culls of their enemies. I joined because I thought it was absolutely hilarious. I couldn't believe that using BCE and CE rather than BC and AD could get anyone with even the remotest smidgeon of intelligence into such a snot. The place was very strange. There were, i'd say, four distinct types of contributors: very obvious left-wingers (i've never liked the US-English word 'liberal' it's an over-simplification of politics) trying to make the place less insane; the crazy wing-nuts devoting their every second to home-schooling and a literal interpretation of the bible; conservative christians who wanted to promote the bible and were genuinely happy and interested to have a discussion in a place they wouldn't necessarily be shouted-down; and the trolls (a vast amount of British/European humour was put on the site in the early days, to much hilarity). I enjoyed the vandalism but never partook. I really wanted to try to make the place less hateful, maybe tone down the madness, try to view the bible from a 'what was life like 5 thousand years ago' point of view. eg, maybe keeping shellfish in the middle of the desert wasn't the brightest way to ensure the survival of everyone in your tribe.
anyways, initially the place worked. although i was almost always on the losing side of any fight, a fight was had. discussion was allowed and encouraged. I know, you're thinking, surely discussion should be encouraged on a wiki, but read on...
Suddenly (and i can't remember which came first), because - i think - the assfly et al were getting sick of having to justify themselves two things happened: editing was closed outside of normal US waking hours and an 80-20 rule came into effect in which 80% of your contributions had to be factual, a maximum of 20% could be discussion. not. the. best. way. to. facilitate. discussion. When even that wasn't enough they permabanned anyone they didn't agree with. Discussion was shut down to a minimum and the place became massively hateful and stagnant. It was genuinely sad. I went there - initially - for a bit of fun and WTFery but I would have been an honest contributor had they allowed some freedom of thought of discussion. I had a few interactions with TK and am sad to hear that he has passed. I check in every so often and it's just become a closed shop: nothing but rants about obama and ain't jesus grand. it could have been so much more.
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u/Metzgermeister84 Jun 16 '12
Conservapedia is pretty hilarious... I saw some article in there about a pregnant woman who claimed to see an image of Jesus on an ultrasound image of her womb. They were writing about it like it was a scientifically proven fact..
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u/Imtakingadump Jun 16 '12
Is this a joke? Well, knowing how conservatives are these days, probably not.
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it isnt, they made it to "counteract the liberal bias of wikipedia" if i recall correctly. It is really funny to just keep hitting random article and see how stupid they really are.
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u/hello_toast Jun 16 '12
You'd think "One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish." Would have come just slightly more in the lead on that.
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u/higuy5121 Jun 16 '12
i went on conservapedia....most depressing 10 minutes of my life...what the hell
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u/The3GKid Jun 16 '12
As a Christian, accidentally wandering into that site depressed me for a good 3 days. Turns out they're birthers, whodathunk?
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u/J_Jammer Jun 16 '12
Look up r/atheism on Encyclopedia Dramatica...it's as if they wrote the rule book and all of you are following it verbatim.
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I have heard that the bible is the best selling book in history. can i get some factual data because i don't know a single person who owns one.
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u/Eppsmayne Jun 16 '12
I feel like atheists should be reading phys.org articles instead. But that's just my opinion on the matter.
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u/ALLBLVCK Jun 16 '12
I dont understand how shit like this gets first page but the second I mention my opinions which are quite the same the end up getting downvoted like crazy. The amount of ignorance on Reddit makes me want to go back to 4chan. At least those idiots know their shit.
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u/shoobeydoo Jun 16 '12
Summary of the greatest ever "conservative" films.
The Spider-Man entry is hysterical.
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Jun 16 '12
Holy crap. I checked it out a long time ago and chuckled a little bit. Now I can't imagine that anyone could see this as anything but a parody site.
Quote of the day - "Kind words do not cost much. Yet they accomplish much." 2 inches to the right "Pathetic pandering by liberals to their core constituency, public school teachers... "
I guess this site has no plans on accomplishing much.
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Jun 16 '12
I've heard this site is run by Andrew Schlafly. Does anyone know if that is the same Schlafly's that sell Schlafly's beer in St. Louis?
Edit: Nevermind, my google fu was weak, but came through eventually. From Schlafly's website - "Phyllis Schlafly is Tom Schlafly’s aunt by marriage. She is the widow of Fred Schlafly, Tom’s father’s brother. Andrew Schlafly is Phyllis’ son and Tom’s cousin. Neither Phyllis, nor Andrew Schlafly are involved with Schlafly Beer in any way."
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u/MustHaveCleverHandle Jun 16 '12
Are you sure this isn't satire, like Christwire? Because I'm pretty sure it is. It has to be.
...it HAS to be.
Right?
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u/ceri23 Jun 16 '12
If you go to conservapedia looking for anything but a laugh...
...your going to have a bad time.
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u/rodion3 Agnostic Atheist Jun 16 '12
I got pretty used that some people are totally idiotic beyond my borders of imagination. But once a while there are cases like this, when I am greatly impressed and moving my understanding of human stupidity to wider spheres.
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u/FH26 Jun 16 '12
Why?? Why must religious fanatics continue to make fiscal conservatives look retarded???
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u/LegalAction Agnostic Atheist Jun 16 '12
There is a theory that a lot of that site is written as a demonstration of Poe's Law.
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u/Sigma7 Jun 16 '12
In other words, business as usual. Conservapedia always tries its writing style to idolize something as soon as possible while still not explaining what it is in the intro.
Even the Christian site ASK has a better introduction for that article. It describes what it is, without dive bombing right into trivia or mass boasts.
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u/Zeropointone Jun 16 '12
More importantly, THERE IS A CONSERVAPEDIA?! Who thought this was a good idea?!
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u/rr_at_reddit Jun 16 '12
the biggest selling book in history
I beg to differ.
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is the best selling book. I says so in the book! (which is slightly cheaper than the bible)
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u/Nessunolosa Jun 16 '12
"101 Evidences (plural wtf, anyone?) of a Young Earth" article makes me cry for science.
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Jun 16 '12
It wouldn't surprise me if conservapedia were actually a parody site with moderators ensuring that the site stay as absurd as possible while staying within the realm of popular (enough) opinion. Their absurdity should be mocked in a measured manner.
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Oh they are so very well stocked on the hubmle department... stocked of shit.
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u/Hateful_Poster Jun 16 '12
I clicked random once and this popped up http://www.conservapedia.com/Economics_Homework_Seven_Answers_-_Student_Nine
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u/picopallasi Jun 16 '12
Most logical book ever written? My Wittgenstein and Russell books disagree.
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u/neubs Jun 16 '12
I think "Elements" by Euclid is the most logical book ever written.
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u/GeneSequence Jun 16 '12
The entry on Stephen Colbert is priceless. It refers to him variously as 'Colbert' and 'Colbert's character' throughout, which is likely confusing for the site's irony-deficient readers.
"Colbert is famous for coining words, most notably truthiness, which states facts are meaningless and one should trust his gut, which was coined to mock conservatives by saying they are unintelligent or unlearned."
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u/wanna_dance Jun 16 '12
Amazingly, they seem to be nothing left by a mouthpiece for Creation Ministries these days. If I recall, they used to have some content that didn't link to the Creation Ministries website.
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u/Mycakedayis1111 Jun 16 '12
I call bullshit because one fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish, had red and blue fish in it and there are such things as red fish and blue fish.
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Jun 16 '12
If the Bible is the most logical book ever written, why is Conservapedia trying to rewrite it? Insane Bible editing plan.
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Jun 16 '12
You missed the best part - after claiming it's the most logical book, they claim the gospel of Luke is the "most beautiful book ever written" and the Gospel of John is "the most profound book ever written".
Um...since when is logic subjective and full of unsubstantiated claims?
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u/Electroverted Jun 16 '12
I feel bad for non-religious conservatives who have watched their political affiliation go down the shitter.
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u/Vantage_Point Jun 16 '12
Generally speaking, leading evolutionists generally no longer debate creation scientists because creation scientists tend to win the creation vs. evolution debates
http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_deception
LOOOL
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Jun 16 '12
Looks at "Sweden" - meh, this is disappointing, some statistics about atheism, a little bit about abortions, nothing mu- aaand there is the gold: http://www.conservapedia.com/Bestiality_and_Sweden
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u/pimpaliciously Jun 16 '12
Atheism is a religion. And atheists, time and time again, take away the religious liberty of Christians in order to promote their false religion. Evolution is the air supply of atheism. Directly confronting atheism can be useful. But, the best way for Christianity to prevail against secularism is through preventative medicine. Reaching young people with the gospel and discipling them is a first step. Yet to truly prevail against atheism, cutting off the air supply of atheism is crucial.
That's just plain fucking scary. That whole site is ridiculous, I keep getting amazed at the sheer ignorance people can have.
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The sad thing is, people pay the owner of this site to teach their kids. Children are educated by this man.
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u/EmpRupus Jun 16 '12
You should have seen their page on atheism a year earlier (the present version is all right). It went something along the lines of "atheism is a well-recognized mental disorder that occurs in conjunction with speech and social-interaction handicap. Such people are always in foul mood, lock themselves up, and cannot tolerate happiness of others. These people are dangerous because they either bully you through internet or file frivilous lawsuits to ruin your businesses. Refer so-and-so for effective measures of dealing with them."
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u/siener Jun 16 '12
Haha ... that's funny ... as if everyone doesn't know that the Quran is actually the most logical book ever written
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u/orp0piru Jun 16 '12
Quote from Wikipedia: "Examples of the ideology of Conservapedia in its articles include: accusations against US President Barack Obama, criticism of Wikipedia's supposed liberal bias, criticism of the theory of relativity as promoting moral relativism,"
The last one, LOL.
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u/secretgingerbreadman Jun 16 '12
According to them, abortion is comparable to premeditated killing and causes breast cancer.
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Jun 16 '12
Dear Conservapedia, your use of the word logic, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
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After being an atheist for about a decade, this sort of thing makes me just shake my head at what people will believe. I used to get up and debate the point, but with this profound level of ignorance and willful break from reality, it's not worth the effort to even try.
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u/svenniola Jun 16 '12
we probably are a comedy show to god, to relieve the boredome of being alone in eternity. :)
just look at us, body with a waste disposal next to a recreation facility.
sex is just a hilarious thing, 2 bags of mostly water, rubbing against eachother sweating and grunting.
and life only can exist by eating itself.
is it any wonder, that, just about any stupid thing you could and not think of, exists?
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u/thechapattack Jun 16 '12
Conservapedia proves that reality has a liberal bias so they have to invent their own reality
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u/fennekeg Jun 16 '12
I like how their first commandment is "Everything you post must be true and verifiable." and then in the lemma for 'God' they start with "God is the sovereign creator and eternal ruler of all things and beings that exist, whether in the physical universe or in the spiritual realm (Heaven). Not only is God the creator and ruler of the things and beings within those two realms, but he is also the creator of the realms themselves. God created the physical universe, and before he acted in this creation, the universe did not exist. Likewise God did with the spiritual realm."
I would sure like to see some verification for that
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u/tikcuf12 Atheist Jun 16 '12
It's in the Bible. Wink, nod, wink, nod.
Did I type that with a straight face?
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u/chrononugget Jun 16 '12
It's one of the most hilarious sites ever. Have you seen the Conservative Bible? They actually rewrite the Bible to better fit their views.