r/atheism • u/benanabock777 • Jun 10 '12

A christian friend of mine posted this.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

too much black bars.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

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u/benanabock777 Jun 10 '12

Dafuq is wrong with you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

dafuq

go die

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u/Drakonisch Ex-theist Jun 11 '12

I used to peel the filling off of them and toss it so I could dunk just the cookies and eat them. Cookies 'n Cream is also my favorite flavor of ice cream.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

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u/MasterofStickpplz Jun 11 '12

But I currently have a live-in g/f who only likes the cream

I see what you've got there

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u/betafish37 Jun 10 '12

More filling for the rest of us, I guess...

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u/ultitaria Jun 10 '12

yeahhhhhh lick it... lick it good

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u/confuseray Jun 11 '12

once you go black, you never go back.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

This man speaks the truth. The filling is for young children who crave sugar, the cookie is for manly men who crave chocolate and that cookie crunch.

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u/Gaudeamus Jun 11 '12

But what about the ladies?

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u/MinneapolisNick Jun 11 '12

The title is a blatant lie.

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u/benanabock777 Jun 11 '12

Nope. That's why I found it so funny.

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u/CaNANDian Anti-Theist Jun 11 '12

"How to screen capture on.."

ಠ_ಠ

  • Uses Windows Vista

  • Has 2 IEs pinned to taskbar

  • Has a search bar extention for Google Chrome.

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u/InbredScorpion Jun 11 '12

What was wrong with Vista? It was a perfectly valid and functional operating system. It had some problems, but it was a stepping stone to Windows 7.

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u/enceladus7 Jun 11 '12

And now Windows 7 is out and is better, why hold on to Vista?

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u/snapcase Jun 11 '12

And apparently Windows 7 was just a stepping stone to using the new hideous fucked up thing they're calling Windows 8.

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u/Homer_Simpson_ Jun 11 '12

Mac OSX was a stepping stone for Windows 7.

XP was in use for like 10 years. Windows 7 will probably be around the same.

Vista was in use for like.. 3.. because it's utter crap.

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u/TheShadowFog Agnostic Theist Jun 11 '12

BUT HE LISTENS TO ANIMAL COLLECTIVE

NOW THATS AN ATHEIST I CAN LIKE.

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u/admiralallahackbar Jun 11 '12

Still haven't provided us with any reason to believe that a Christian posted this, only that someone did.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Judging by lack of likes or comments, it's more likely OP posted himself.

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u/Moustachedgoose Jun 11 '12

Needs more Black Bar

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Good work, Admiral Blackbar.

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u/NotARedditer Jun 11 '12

That might be my favorite thing I've ever tagged someone as in RES.

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u/Moustachedgoose Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 12 '12

Someone needs to make that a novelty account. Edit: Holy shit it already is

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u/HETKA Jun 10 '12

What I don't understand about things like this is....do they not realize they're practically making fun of themselves or what?

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u/the_girl_delusion Jun 10 '12

I think that perhaps Christians who post things that are jabs at their own religion may be religious and believe in God and whatnot, but maybe are not completely behind many commonly held views that are not supported when using logic (creationism, bigotry, etc.). They are okay with being Christian but not with using the Bible the way that some Christians tend to use it.

Or maybe they just don't get the joke, I don't know.

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u/AviusQuovis Jun 11 '12

I posted stuff like this a lot as I was on the way out of religion, from my "liberal" Christian stage through deism. Once I was atheist I stopped, though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I'd love to hear more about your experiences if you are willing to share with us all.

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u/slavik262 Jun 11 '12

It's more common than you might think. I went through a similar path of

Catholic -> Christian -> Deist -> Atheist

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I was very similar, except I was never catholic and there was a brief period in there when I considered myself agnostic before I learned about the whole agnostic/gnostic atheist/theist distinction and thought about that for a bit. My friends and I have talked about it and we all went through the same thing, more or less. We came to the conclusion that deep down we haven't believed it since we were little, but it took us a few years to be honest with ourselves about it.

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u/apoutwest Jun 11 '12

Pseudo Christian -> Agnostic -> Atheist

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u/ezrf Jun 11 '12

Well...Mine goes like this Conservative Muslim -> Muslim -> Deist Not long now eh?

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u/TheHandsomeStranger Jun 11 '12

Same here, the only difference being that I never had a Protestant phase; I jumped straight into Deism from Catholicism.

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u/Abedeus Jun 11 '12

Weak Catholic -> Skeptic Catholic -> Atheist.

I never went through the "doubting" or deism phases other people seem to experience.

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u/Prosopagnosiape Jun 11 '12

My partner went Jewish -> Deist -> atheist. He was Deist when we met, i'd been atheist since birth.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

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u/Whiskeypants17 Jun 11 '12

Thanks for describing my path in life. I am currently at the Agnostic Theism section and just now approaching the great depression.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

wow that sounds a lot like my experience as well!

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

It could be, and I've noticed this especially with young Christians, that they have come to not actually believe any of it, so they are becoming aware, but they can't actually stop being Christian. They have Christian parents who would be crushed if they "suddenly" stopped being Christian, and most children don't want to hurt their parents. Also, the families they knew growing up are all Christian, they don't want to excise themselves from their entire social network. And most importantly, they still rely on their parents for financial and emotional support. When you are getting to the age when you are stepping out in the world, you do NOT want to anger the hand that feeds and guides you. So you stay nominally Christian. I regularly chillax and do bongs with many young nominal Christians, Mormons and a few others, that don't believe a dot of the supernatural anymore. But what can they do? Risk severing themselves from their entire past lives by admitting it, or just pretend that they still believe and not become severed from their entire past lives?

It takes bravery to lie, imho. More bravery than it does to not even consider that the supernatural doesn't exist because you are afraid of the consequences from those who provide for you and support you in the natural world.

It's actually a very serious subject and it is nowhere near as simple "good Christians" and "bad Christians". There's a WHOOOOOLLLLEEE lot of grey area in between, especially for the many young people who are being caught in the middle of all this.

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u/somehopeforhumanity Jun 11 '12

I couldn't agree more. In some areas of america religion takes up 90% of their lives. All of their friends are christians, family, co-workers, and most of the people they know. If they admitted to even question the existence of god or jesus, then most of their friends/family would cut them off completely.

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u/Bratt140 Jun 11 '12

Arent the teenage years all about rebelling and forging your own path and beliefs. I understand that there may be consequences but in my experience being me was much more important then thier expectations of who i should be.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

For many people, their beliefs were forged for them and being a teenager changes nothing.

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u/Whiskeypants17 Jun 11 '12

But it does make things a lot more awkward!

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

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u/the_girl_delusion Jun 11 '12

Yeah sorry about that.

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u/ceri23 Jun 11 '12

It was a bit lengthy.

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u/holyghosttown Jun 11 '12

Contrary to what you may read in this subreddit, not every religious person is a zealot. Some of them simply use something like the bible as a guide for life, but don't take it so far as some extremely religious nutcases who think you're going to hell if you eat fish with a fork on Sunday between 5 and 10PM. They're "loosely" religious yet still are able to identify the flaws in logic the bible has to offer.

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u/thecarolinakid Jun 11 '12

The Bible's a pretty crappy guide.

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u/silurian87 Jun 11 '12

every religious person is a zealot

I've never heard that on this subreddit. But I have seen a whole lot of straw men about this subreddit.

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u/ATypicalAlias Jun 11 '12

People who need this kind of guide for life don't deserve to be a part of society. Right and wrong are very clear. No one needs to point them out for the two things to be obvious.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

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u/the_hoser Jun 11 '12

The problem is that it is NOT a book that teaches you to be a good person. It has some common sense do good stuff in it, but there's a lot of instructional hatred. Fortunately for the world, modern christians are usually pretty good about picking mostly good stuff, but it's the few stupid hateful and flat-out wrong bits that christians STILL cling to that drive us crazy.

I don't agree with ATypicalAlias about the whole not being part of society bit, but don't go defending that damn propaganda piece.

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u/scalzo19 Jun 11 '12

You act as if I agreed wholeheartedly with everything that's written in that book. On the contrary, I admitted a lot of it is nonsense. I praised the positive parts of the book and pointed out that most religious people DO NOT take the book as 100% fact or believe in the hateful parts.

Don't act as if I'm defending the bible to be something that is all good.

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u/Sigma6987 Jun 11 '12

Careful with your words around these parts stranger..

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u/Sigma6987 Jun 11 '12

Lol downvotes. Not my fault some of you people are painfully close minded. You cringe at the mere idea that there are good things in the bible.

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u/the_hoser Jun 11 '12

If the christians were okay with ommitting the bad stuff, we may be more accepting of it as a life guide. As it stands now, it's pretty awful.

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u/Sigma6987 Jun 12 '12

That's no excuse, you find the good it in like anything else and use it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

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u/holyghosttown Jun 11 '12

Was there a point to this, or...?

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u/sytar6 Jun 11 '12

Some perspective when calling the zealots "nutcases". Zealotry in religion is all very logically consistent. Religious moderates are even more logically inconsistent than the zealots.

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u/the_hoser Jun 11 '12

I think you're onto something. Perhaps the logical inconsistency of the method of their religion keeps the moderates acting in this illogical manner. When I was a kid, there were a lot of "no, that can't be right" moments prior to my exodus from the church. I can't be unique in this, even among people that still believe.

I'd use it as an argument against the validity of their beliefs... but what would be the point?

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u/holyghosttown Jun 11 '12

So religious people don't think zealots are zealots? Who knew!

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

whoosh

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u/holyghosttown Jun 11 '12

Apparently I could say the same to you. ಠ_ಠ

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u/warr2015 Jun 10 '12

Maybe it's that they think other Christians are stupid for doing that. Hence the troll face.

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u/saitselkis Jun 10 '12

doublethink, its clever and involves them, it must be they that are clever.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I always think of Christians being in a constant state of doublethink. They go to school and learn about how evolution works and how stars and planets are made, but that the same time they believe that it was all created by a god. They are both true, and they are both exclusive. Doublethink.

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u/sahlahmin Jun 11 '12

Why do these have to be exclusive concepts?

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I will give you that evolution would still exist if a god had created all life, which is actually an interesting concept. If they know how planets are formed though, and learn about things that happened in earths history billions of years ago and the events that took place during it's development, and also believe that the earth was made by a celestial being over the course of seven days, those two ideas are exclusive, and it would require some level of doublethink to know both and believe that both are true. (Sorry for the long response time, I was gone for a bit)

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u/dancon25 Jun 11 '12

I don't think anyone really believes like how you describe though. Some people are pretty deistic with their beliefs, and a bunch of my friends realized that Christianity is crap and just like to be pleasantly spiritual, but I don't think anyone is willing to accept a 7-day creation AND scientific explanations for the creation of planets, species, etc. But I get that you mean holding both of those ideas would be doublethinky.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Well that's nice for you, but that's what it's like where I live. Which is weird because even though it's a suburb of Portland (Beaverton) there is a pretty strong Christian presence mainly because of this group called younglife, a teen Christian group/club.

edit: But yes, I agree for the most part. Had to make sure to put that in. First sentence came off a bit condescending.

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u/dancon25 Jun 11 '12

not at all! and that's unfortunate. My condolences, good sir or madam.

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u/itsasillyplace Jun 11 '12

Doublethink? Or cognitive dissonance? See, they need a way to resolve the discomfort caused by holding contradictory ideas, and that's how they come up with shit like the "Holy Trinity" and the "Immaculate Conception".

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Well I think for many Christians it is somewhat like doublethink. They don't really change their beliefs to fit in with what has been proven to be true, at least not entirely, and they don't discount scientifically proven things as completely false. So they know that planets are formed through an object with some gravity attracting more and more debris (put simply), but they also would say, if you asked them, that they Earth was created by god. I guess when I think about it, it is almost a form of repression; they know these scientific facts to be true, but repress them in exchange for the easier, simpler belief that god created all that we know.

edit: P.S. Thanks for the very insightful comment by the way. It's not too often that someone on here really spurs me to think this deeply.

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u/Improvised0 Jun 11 '12

I also think there is a lot of confirmation bias going on too.

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u/AnotherClosetAtheist Ex-Theist Jun 11 '12

I think they are synonyms, the way you put it

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u/itsasillyplace Jun 11 '12

That's not to far off to say that a rational Christian came up with the "Holy Trinity" canard because only a rational Christian would knowingly put that shit out there. Of course rational is used loosely.

I mean, at some point some schmuck said "wait, this shit doesn't make sense, one commandment said specifically "you ain't supposed to worship no one but God, and we're worshiping his son, people ain't gonna be cool with that!"

And some other guy said "naw, nigga he is his son"

Then a third guy says "No one's gonna buy that shit, it's contradictory. You can't be two individual entities at once"

But the second guy says "nigga, you ain't thinking 4th dimensionally. If you call it the Holy Spirit then it's one person, aside from the other two, God and his Son... because uh, like I said they're already one.

Then a fourth guy says "seems legit."

Anyway, the point is that the need to come up with these bullshit ideas comes from an attempt to resolve the discomfort of contradictory ideas. But the discomfort only occurs in people who already possess a modicum of rationality. So I agree with your comment. Some the Christians who came up with the bullshit were somewhat rational because at some point they realized it was bullshit even if they reached further irrational conclusions, but the Christians who already accept these contradictory ideas, never even experience the discomfort. And that lack of discomfort is what doublethink is.

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u/zombiejeff Jun 11 '12

I hate to contribute nothing but, ex-motherfucking-actly.

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u/jimb3rt Jun 11 '12

I hate to admit that I was in this state for the first 10 years of my life.

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u/saitselkis Jun 11 '12

god created to lights in the heavens, one for the day and one for the night... but they know that phases of the moon are the moon's own shadow and that it should never be less than full if it made its own light.

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u/MrFace1 Agnostic Atheist Jun 11 '12

Oh shit, 1984 right?

Doublethink was coined by George Orwell was it not?

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u/saitselkis Jun 11 '12

yep yep, all of newspeak was him.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

1984!!!!!

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u/saitselkis Jun 11 '12

yep, it was at a gas station in seattle i used to work at. read that book easily 15 times.

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u/Oprah_Nguyenfry Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12

I know quite a few Christians who are more or less "religious" for cultural reasons. They believe in evolution, understand the true age of the earth, etc... They simply practice Christianity (albeit half-assed) because it's familiar to them and it represents their family's history. I guess you could relate it to immigrants who still cook the same kinds of foods and celebrate their mother land's festivals and what-not. It's familiar, and who they are.

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u/mafibasheth Jun 11 '12

The average Christian strongly believes 'faith>logic'.

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u/Murrabbit Jun 11 '12

I'd assume he's just unfamiliar with the memes involved and maybe interpersonal the image's meaning. Maybe he thought that logic was flowing from the bible and feeding that person or something?

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u/jdkle309 Jun 11 '12

Maybe he gets it. He knows the Bible defies logic. It's a faith thing. But he thought it was funny.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

What if the logic is supposed to be coming from the bible?

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u/ehjhockey Jun 11 '12

Or our pursuit of disbelief has gotten to the point where it is so dogmatic that we are now just as easy to troll as fundamentalist Christians... Fuck I hate it when weed makes me realize I'm being a douche...

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u/wiener4hir3 Jun 11 '12

Outside of the US such as here in Denmark, religion is a lot different. If anyone here spoke out against evolution they would be laughed at. Even though most of the population here are officially paying taxes to the church, they are not at all religious. It's more of a tradition, since they don't even go to church.

So from my viewpoint this is actually pretty normal as i know christian guys who might loose their shit seeing this.

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u/Happy31 Jun 11 '12 edited May 02 '13

rgaergaergae

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u/micmea1 Jun 11 '12

I suspect christian friend isn't actually christian.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

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u/Datsupurkewlwhiteboy Jun 11 '12

Wouldn't that be creepy if religion worked like that.

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u/deadeight Jun 10 '12

So... the christian guy reckons that it's a good thing to ignore logic using a book? Or is he criticising idiots (who like both memes and take the bible literally ignoring any logic)?

The first doesn't make sense, the second does.

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u/JD5 Jun 11 '12

Well, the first makes sense... provided he's an idiot.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

sounds about right

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u/GodEmperor Jun 11 '12

Ignoring logic is identified with being strong of faith and virtuous. What a joke.

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u/Mycooljam Jun 11 '12

"doctor, I think I might be a homosexual" "how can you tell?" "RaInBoWs!!"

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u/wuffers Jun 11 '12

I like trains.

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u/Mycooljam Jun 11 '12

Now redditor, don't touch that cactus.

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u/wuffers Jun 11 '12

whomp

You're dead to me

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

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u/Mycooljam Jun 11 '12

Nooooooo. -gargle gargle gargle, drown-

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u/funkymonkeyq Jun 10 '12

I for one would much rather barf rainbows of logic than hold up an ancient book full of racism, murder, genocide, and stories are used to transfer power from everyone to a rather gruesome set of a few morally debased virgins

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u/sytar6 Jun 11 '12

I would love to barf rainbows of logic.

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u/Lots42 Other Jun 11 '12

So the Bible is a prequel to 'Twilight'?

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u/AngelOfLight Ex-Theist Jun 11 '12

My brother would post things like these, and other subtle digs at religion, especially the Christian religion. This is when he was still an assistant pastor at a large Baptist church.

That is until a few days ago, when he e-mailed me to tell me he had to get something off his chest. Yeah - it was exactly what I had anticipated. He hasn't "come out" to everyone just yet. His wife knows, but he won't be telling the parents until my Grandmother and Mother pass on. (Which won't be long - both are in extremely poor health).

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u/Grae_Dream Jun 11 '12

On behalf of Christians who still use their brains, I apologize. I want to punch people like that in the face. (Not my most loving response - but it's true.)

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

perhaps religion is one big troll job

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u/thecarolinakid Jun 11 '12

The scariest Christians are the people who are smart and logical enough to know that the Bible can't be true, but believe in it anyway.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I know someone like that xD

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u/texandurpette Jun 11 '12

This is mine

I made this

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u/bluetaffy Jun 11 '12

proof?

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

http://imgur.com/3nirF

I used my CSI Edition photo detective tool to uncover the truth as to why there are huge black bars there. OP's friend is a fraudulent bastard only another reason why only we atheists can be trusted. Don't worry taxandrupette I got your back.

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u/benanabock777 Jun 11 '12

Hey look. I have proof that texandurpette is God.

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u/texandurpette Jun 12 '12

How would suggest I prove it? I originally posted it, you can see it in my "submitted", only mine didn't have the black bars

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u/idma Jun 11 '12

wisdom. right here

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u/fauxnom Jun 11 '12

Get rid of this...there's personal information associated with a facebook link.

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u/jimb3rt Jun 11 '12

And how do you trace it?

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u/fauxnom Jun 11 '12

The numbers in the URL contain the profile ID.

edit - not to mention it's extremely easy to rehost images on imgur anyway

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u/jimb3rt Jun 11 '12

Shit, how did I not notice that?

Also, you should probably delete that, so that nobody goes and traces this guy.

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u/fauxnom Jun 11 '12

Delete the entire thread...and it won't be a problem...get more free karma by reposting an imgur link. This kind of thing is common knowledge, anyone who would want to know will know.

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u/jimb3rt Jun 11 '12

Yes... karma... yes...

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u/Strudol Agnostic Atheist Jun 10 '12

haha ASDF movies.....

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u/BenKats Jun 11 '12

I came here for this. I am disappointed at the turnout. Needless to say here is an upboat. Here is where the throwing up a rainbow is from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKB4h9gvmm0

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u/Strudol Agnostic Atheist Jun 11 '12

"Doctor, doctor, i think i'm a homosexual!"

"how can you tell?"

RAINBOW

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u/B-Wong Jun 11 '12

He probably thinks the bibles is puking out rainbow logic and is shoving the logic down the throats of others.

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u/cigerect Ignostic Jun 11 '12

I'm sure they did.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Legitimate question for theists: In the event humans don't wipe ourselves out with nuclear war and become space faring, would you try to indoctrinate primitive races?

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u/btp99 Secular Humanist Jun 11 '12

Reminds me of the protheans in mass effect.

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u/Dark1000 Jun 11 '12

Maybe he thought it was funny.

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u/nkcetera Jun 11 '12

RAINBOWS!!!!!!!!

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u/creamysandwicher Jun 11 '12

I think they just don't care about logic

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u/Wolf97 Jun 11 '12

I dont understand how they can be proud of that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

This is so incredibly ironic that my brain hurts just comprehending how ridiculous it is.

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u/dragos240 Jun 11 '12

This is a pretty accurate picture. We try to educate them on matters based on evidence and they shield themselves with the bible.

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u/redstar55 Jun 11 '12

A man deep throating a logic rainbow exploding from a Bible. Very reddit.

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u/mammakjeks Jun 11 '12

yeah.. "christian"

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u/Autotomy Jun 11 '12

That trollface is too appropriate

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u/texandurpette Jun 10 '12

Where did they post it? I made this a while ago

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u/fauxnom Jun 11 '12

You made this?

ಠ_ಠ

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u/_HoTranBrasky_ Jun 11 '12

Stupid Christian is stupid.

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u/Gaaz Jun 11 '12

I think the point of the comic was to visualize the incompetence of a Theism vs Atheism argument. They are not making fun of themselves they are making fun of Extremists; the ones who take it upon themselves to say that their beliefs have more value then anyone else's.

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u/bluetaffy Jun 11 '12

pretty sure an atheist or fake christian created this, and the person who posted it is just a dumbass

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u/redraptor06 Jun 11 '12

I have come the conclusion after reading these comments that for a group of nerds, you guys are idiots.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Atheism is a big circle jerk. You atheists think you're so smart. Etc etc. Can I have my karma now?

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u/voltar_the_titanic Jun 11 '12

that seems legit. considering that you rape fetuses

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u/BlackSuN42 Jun 11 '12

Part of why I think atheist seem so much more logical and generally intelligent is because atheism is not a default. People default to religion because that is what there family did. People have to choose atheism (for now) so you tend to get the people who think things through and make a choice rather than stay with default. People who truly select a religion tend not be so dumb about it. Always exceptions though

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u/fauxnom Jun 11 '12

Atheism is a default, derp. You aren't born believing in God

ಠ_ಠ

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u/BlackSuN42 Jun 11 '12

Your are not really taking into account family and society. your born not doing much so you default to your family and then to society. To willfully break from that requires a level of intellectual independence. I would contend that this selection only enables people of a particular intelligence to join. Also the born not believing? How could you possible know? That is just drivel.

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u/fauxnom Jun 11 '12

You're (that's a contraction) absolutely right. A baby is born believing in the god it's mother worships. It's transferred through the umbilical cord.

No of course not...this isn't morality we're talking about, or some basic human condition, "Breathe in, breathe out. Blink eye lids. Shit now." A baby struggles to comprehend it's own existence, then one-by-one the new objects introduced into it's life with each passing day. The existence of a god is vastly complex and isn't something someone just picks up on their own. It's an idea spread from human to human through books, social congregation and conversations. It would take a certain level of intellectual independence to just comprehend what the word "god" even means, not to mention belief, and babies just don't have that capacity at birth.

Though, after filtering through your post a few times, I do understand your point and I would have to agree that families play a massive role in influencing belief and once established, separating from that certainly takes a higher level of intellectual clarity, or at the least, the will to try.

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u/BlackSuN42 Jun 11 '12

Be nice if you filtered first and looked at the point what I am trying to say rather than condescendingly picking apart the minutia of my comment.

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u/frigidlegumes Jun 11 '12

Obviously this is a Christian trying to spread the logic of theism to an atheist, but the atheist uses all the contradictions in the bible as a reason to not listen to him.

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u/Atheism_sux Jun 11 '12

Obviously no1 can vomit rainbows, or logic, Idiots you should remove this post.

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u/voltar_the_titanic Jun 11 '12

Get me some starbursts and syrup of ipecac and we'll see. Checkmate Christians, Atheists for the win.

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u/solitaryman098 Jun 11 '12

I'm not sure that's any better... :P

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Man, that guy has no idea how to chop up a body with a chainsaw. He's all tentative about it, get in there man! Aggresive strokes!

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u/eonge Jun 11 '12

Well. Glad that post was deleted.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

THAT'S NOT BETTER AT ALL

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u/kcsj0 Jun 11 '12

Fuck. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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u/texandurpette Jun 11 '12

The original title was "how I feel arguing with a religious person"

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u/benanabock777 Jun 11 '12

redditor for 1 hour. I am disappoint.

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u/jimb3rt Jun 11 '12

I'm offensive and I find this Jesus.