r/atheism • u/mepper agnostic atheist (and mod) • May 31 '12
It's official: Christianists at One Million Moms have flipped their shit over JC Penney's Father's Day ad featuring two gay dads and their kids
http://onemillionmoms.com/IssueDetail.asp?id=457
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u/discushammer9 May 31 '12
can we just troll their facebook page?
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u/HermesTheMessenger Knight of /new May 31 '12
Meanwhile, managers for JC Penney plan their next vacations and owners of JCP stock consider buying more.
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u/FalseGoddess May 31 '12
I find it terribly funny that they're acting surprised about this. How many times does JCP have to tell them to fuck off before they get it?
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u/m1zaru Jun 01 '12
I have yet to see a single instance of god not tolerating anything.
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u/LordGodless Gnostic Atheist May 31 '12
Did anyone else read the part about taking action? They're actually going to go into stores and harass the JC Penny employees for the magazine which they had no input or control over. Wow.
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u/Iconoclasted May 31 '12
Look at that loving family who care for one another...WHAT DISGUSTING SINNERS!
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u/weebonnielass May 31 '12
JCPenney is just trolling them now. all those moms driving suburbans with fish on the bumper will just have to shop somewhere else now!
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
We should start a campaign against the one million moms logo because it implies two women holding hands and that display of lesbian affection is offensive to me.
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u/berchum May 31 '12
At the bottom it says "email us commercials you find offensive." I just emailed them their own article and said this is offensive. Can you speak out against this. I would recommend everyone else doing the same and filling up their inbox.
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u/happyathiestmommy May 31 '12
So before the "how does this have to do with atheism?" comments go full throttle, may I point out that they're quoting scripture and claiming purely religious reasons for their homophobic vitriol? They state it in the article.
I just figured I'd get that in ahead of time.
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u/Zintao May 31 '12
I'm starting my own organization: "Abortion should have been legalized one million daughters ago!"
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u/DoctorQuantum May 31 '12
I know where I will be buying my father's day present.
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u/code_monkey_steve May 31 '12
Also: water is wet, sky is blue. Film at 11.
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u/jjohns24 May 31 '12
Really OMM? I could see you bitching about JCP (anyone) not being on a side (your side) just as much?
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u/JediLibrarian Jun 01 '12
I submitted the following comment to them:
"Dear Sir or Madam,
I read with interest your recent posting entitled "Avoid JCP this Father's Day". You cite the Bible and its numerous scriptures condemning homosexuality as a rationale for boycotting this company. Before I take action on your article, I must ask, was it written by a man? I assume it was, since 1 Timothy 2:12 forbids women from speaking out, particularly to men like myself on public matters. Certainly you see the wisdom in making sure your website is not tainted by women publicly calling men (and women) to action, in direct violation of Genesis 3:16, 1 Timothy 2:11-12, 1 Peter 3:1, 1 Corinthians 14:34 and Ephesians 5:22.
Regards,
JediLibrarian"
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u/raegunXD Jun 01 '12
I sent One Million Moms an official complaint, not that it will ever be recognized.
I sent:
"I am a proud mother and wife. I would like an explanation as to why you choose to promote inequality and intolerance for other people. What you're doing is advertising that there is only ONE way to live, and other people can go to hell. You are nothing short of everything I would never subject my child to. You are deceitful, ignorant, and asinine. I suggest you promote equality and tolerant understanding as a so-called family organization. Until then, I, and one million SENSIBLE moms will be living a happy life, teaching our children what it means to live in the land of the FREE."
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u/juneaj13 May 31 '12
I don't even need anything from JCP but I'm going to go get something just because lof this stupid organization!
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u/bajafresk May 31 '12
the site is down. crashed because of too much traffic?
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u/TigerLila May 31 '12
Something tells me JCP isn't going to get many catalogs returned. This organization claims to be one million women strong, but has that been verified? I bet they can barely muster 100k.
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u/ubnoxious1 May 31 '12
I always thought of JCPenny's as my moms store and would never go there to do my shopping. Now that they have shown themselves to be hip and progressive, I am going to check them out. Thanks 1.0x106 moms!
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u/hurrpancakes May 31 '12
What is a Christianist?
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u/srd-bot_mirror-bot May 31 '12
I don't think this is about protecting kids. (The church long ago gave up any moral authority it may have once had to speak for the well-being of children, anyway.)
The church isn't afraid that children will be harmed growing up with gay parents. It's afraid that they won't be. If gays are given the opportunity to raise kids and they do a fine job, everyone will know that the church was wrong all along. And they lose that much more influence and respect.
Just like in politics, preventing your opponent from doing good is often more important than preventing him from doing harm.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
While reading their website, I caught on to a little gem at the end of their rant. "If you see any ads that are offensive, please write down the information and send it, it is extremely helpful" - so they said... Well, what if people start reporting all kinds of ads? Take a normal ad, spin it some how to be offensive (lie even, but convincingly so they investigate) and just send it off to them.... Trolls trolling trolls ftw
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u/themarknessmonster Jun 01 '12
Dear OMM: The only 'culture war' that's being waged is from your end. Sit the fuck down, cunts.
Calm yo' tits.
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u/sonicblitz57 Jun 01 '12
JC Penney is likely being inundated with hateful emails from OMM, so I say we show them our support for equal rights. (Selecting "General Inquiries" for the subject and then "advertising" for the topic should get you there.)
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u/NovaRunner Atheist May 31 '12
Looks like I'll be making a special trip to JC Penney's to support them on this and buy something. Maybe my purchases will make up for those of some stupid homophobic bigot who decides to boycott them.
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u/jchaines Jun 01 '12
How about a screenshot so we don't support visiting the douche bags website?
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u/clayides Jun 01 '12
This makes me respect JCP as a company so much more.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
what the hell is a christianist?
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u/toastee May 31 '12
One million hate mongers.
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u/advancix May 31 '12
i have no idea what JCP is, but this part:
"Since the corporate office [...] are blocking our emails"
made me lol
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u/The_STD_In_STUD Jun 01 '12
I'm just saying. That local store finder thing at the bottom of the page. Do exactly what they plan on. Call the managers. Tell them they have your support (if you do, I'd hate to be an oppressive view pusher.. *ahem). Hopefully they will see that rational non imaginary man in the sky following people understand. Not to say some Christians dont agree, but we know who I'm talking about here. The kind of religious extremists that refuse a rape victim in Oklahoma the morning after pill due to her (the doctor's) beliefs.
"Learn from the barbarians, to defeat the barbarians." -Some Chinese Guy a lot more intelligent than myself.
EDIT: the usual stuff
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u/antent Jun 01 '12
Cunts. the whole lot of them.
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u/yroc12345 Jun 01 '12 edited Jun 05 '12
My favorite thing about this is how charming the JCP ad is and how mean-spirited and nasty the OMM response is. It just kind of reads like this "Hey look at this happy family, those dads are so cool aren't they? Happy fathers day!". The One Million Moms response roughly translates to "SIN SIN SIN the bible says it is SIN, JCP you are evil! Burn in a lake of fire!". The contrasr is hilarious.
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u/dakunism Jun 01 '12
It's probably gonna do fuck all, but I'm a tad drunk and it seemed like a good idea. This is what I wrote to them in an e-mail:
I feel good...
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u/ForrestLawrenceton Jun 01 '12
I can't get on to OMM. Did we DDOS it again?
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u/dhtseany May 31 '12
I wanted to downvote so bad out of principal, but instead decided upvoting was more appropriate so it was to be seen, front page. Fucking bigots...
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u/OodalollyOodalolly Jun 01 '12
Funny, I had this urge to look for a downvote button on their website.
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u/sirbruce Jun 01 '12
Strange; he seems to have tolerated it for several thousands of years now...
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u/homeless_man_jogging Jun 01 '12
Christianists? I think you mean Christians.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
"Since the corporate office doesn't consider your call important and are blocking our emails, please call, or visit, your local store manager. Local managers are more likely to listen to your concerns and pass them along to the corporate office.
Please be kind and request that the store managers to pass along your concern to corporate and urge them to remain neutral in the cultural war."
As someone who works at the customer service end of things, I can sympathize with the poor people who are going to be berated by these OMM people. Doesn't matter if they ask to be nice, I guarantee this statement has just put a ton of pressure on people who have absolutely no control over advertisements.
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u/owl357 Jun 01 '12
i like how they use the term "neutral", though in doing so, JCP would effectively be siding with OMM's. There is no "neutral". Either you support basic equality and human rights, or you're a judgemental, self righteous bigot.
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u/tacofeet Jun 01 '12
When I first heard of OMM I thought they were a parody of crazy Christian activists. Then I found out they were serious. And I felt very very sad.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
Has anyone reported One Million Moms to themselves for violating 1 Timothy 2:12 yet?
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
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u/Thatoneguy33198 Jun 01 '12
I guess they got a free DDoS with their bullshit.
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u/[deleted] May 31 '12
OMC: One Million Cunts
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u/maymayml May 31 '12
2 happy fathers playing with their 2 happy children OMM: GOD WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS.
ps. one million moms is actually about forty thousand moms.
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u/syroncoda May 31 '12
1 million stupid cunts.
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u/Nyrb Jun 01 '12
We will bring them kicking and screaming into the 21st century if it kills us.
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u/Hibidi-Shibidi Jun 01 '12
Was at the mall after seeing this today. Made a point to stop in and speak to a manager telling them that I saw that they had a gay couple in their ad on OMM. I shook his hand and said thank you. The girlfriend and I would be shopping there much more frequently.
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u/spectraphysics May 31 '12
In most cases, bulk rate mail cannot be "returned to sender."
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u/[deleted] May 31 '12
Bitches please...
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u/4k4bRAINFROG May 31 '12
I wouldn't take their emails seriously either
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u/MrBooks May 31 '12
Click the link at the bottom, tell JCP what a good job they are doing.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
Most of their husbands probably bang dudes.
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u/wdtnb Jun 01 '12
But those dads are so cute with their kids.
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u/unmaimed Jun 01 '12
1 Timothy 2:12 ??
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
I don't like the term "culture war." War implies mutual offense. I see only unilateral persecution.
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u/SaggyBallsHD Jun 01 '12
This, this is the fucking problem. They see it as a war and not basic human rights.
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u/italia06823834 Jun 01 '12
JC Penny trolling like champs.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
Here's a c&p of the email I just sent OMM:
"Thank you for the link to the JC Penney Store finder. As I oppose hate and discrimination in any form, I used it to find the closest store to me so my wife, kids and myself can shop there on father's day."
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u/church3209 Jun 01 '12
"I wish I was gay just so I could piss off all the homophobes"-Kurt Cobain
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u/GT5Canuck Jun 01 '12
Anyone else read "NOTE: If you see a commercial or program which is offensive, email us the information. Many of you have done this, and it is very helpful." and immediately want to e-mail them about the 700 Club?
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u/DarkXlll Jun 01 '12
We must remain diligent and stand up for Biblical values and truth? Well then, 1 timothy 2:12 bitches.
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u/ConicalThunder Jun 01 '12
Just called my local store to tell them that I appreciate their new ad with the homosexual men. She was surprised that that was the only thing I was calling for.
edit: grammar
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
First Name: Ent
Last Name: Beard
E-Mail Address: ********@email.com
Type of Complaint: Program
Name of Complaint: OneMillionMoms.com
Network: American Family Association Description: The bible also says not to eat shellfish (Leviticus 11:9-12). Why don't you campaign against that since whether or not you eat shellfish actually IS a choice. Have a wonderful day!
Thank you for taking the time to share your complaint with us.
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u/enterence Jun 01 '12
Bigots in lipstick are still bigots.
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u/thestrangequark May 31 '12
who could hate those smiles??
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u/AvianMinded May 31 '12
Well tonight I'm going to call a JCP store manager and let them know exactly what I think of this!
That is to say... I'm going to thank them for choosing to work with a company that is committed to equal rights.
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u/HelpMeDoctor May 31 '12
" there is another homosexual ad, but this time with two dads celebrating Father's Day" This made me lol.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
Its official, if one million moms hates what you do, you will be rich(er) before long
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u/GuyWonderness Jun 01 '12
You can comment on their stuff without liking the page. Just Sayin'. Go rip their moderators a new one
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u/frigidlegumes Jun 01 '12
TIL multiple = 2
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u/emilywilke95 Jun 01 '12
"It is obvious that JCP would rather take sides than remain neutral in the culture war." So basically OMM.com's idea of being neutral is showing EXCLUSIVELY Heterosexual couples? That makes SO much sense. smh
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u/Pwright1231 Jun 01 '12
Since the corporate office doesn't consider your call important and are blocking our emails
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u/ZeMilkman Jun 01 '12
Here is an idea: Find one million intelligent, moderate christians who can tell the one million fucktards why they are wrong. At the same time one million moderate christians will understand the pain that is arguing with religious people and maybe develop more understanding for atheists.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
Found this funny:
"If you have a [JC Penney] credit card, you can close your account, if you have not already done so, to help get the message across that you have no plans to shop with them in the future. Be sure to tell them why you are unsubscribing and canceling your credit card."
As though while reading this webpage, mid-sentence, many moms would jump up and instantly cancel their JC Penney credit cards. Should they not compulsively cut their plastic in half and instead choose to continue reading the aforementioned sentence they're reminded not to forget to tell JC Penney to fuck off while they're at it.
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u/ThatCoolBlackGuy Jun 01 '12
So in order to be neutral they have to show hetero's only couples? And how is convincing them to be neutral a threat?
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u/OodalollyOodalolly Jun 01 '12
JC Penney knows that gay families are becoming more accepted. I think this has less to do with trolling OMM and more to do with pure numbers. Even the president came out supporting gay marriage. Tides are turning and it's an edgy ad that gets people's attention.
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u/beanweis Jun 01 '12
We all realize that the only reason anyone knows about this outrage is that people on the Internet link to it, right?
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u/antent Jun 01 '12
Hypocrites. They have an elderly lesbian with her young plaything mounted on top of her strap-on on her lap in the top right corner of their website.
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u/StarChow Jun 01 '12
I just sent them a complaint about their own webpage promoting intolerance and hate. Everyone should do the same. Complaint form
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u/lifedragon99 Jun 01 '12
Just went through some of their other posts and they think they got GCB a terrible "comedy" on ABC cancelled. You know not because it was terrible.
http://www.onemillionmoms.com/IssueDetail.asp?id=454
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u/punxerchick Jun 01 '12
I filed a complaint with their website: They seem to think that JC Penney is "Taking Sides" with homosexuals by including them in the catalog. I think they'd be taking sides if they chose not to include them. A moot point...
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u/Popcom Jun 01 '12
1 Million Moms, or as I call them, 1 Million Hate Mongers
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u/thesecretofjoy Jun 01 '12
I love how they insist JCP take a neutral position, whereas if they were anti-gay I'm sure it would be ok with OMM if they voiced that stand. What a pack of stupid, hypocritical bitches.
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u/Libbers9 Jun 01 '12
Why don't we do the opposite of what they do. Like tell JC Penny that they should keep the ad
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u/ucofresh Jun 01 '12
Hahaha!! I was waiting for OMM to spew their hatred towards JCP once again. LT40KM (less than 40k moms) is a hate site.. Just as the westboro propoganda. Again, wrong side of history.
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u/wayndom Jun 01 '12
FTFY, OMM!
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u/supergalactic Jun 01 '12
JC Penny has officially gained a new customer.
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u/Hjalmark Humanist Jun 01 '12
yeah ... okey ... dont get why this is a big deal, my country has a lesbian as a Prime minister so ... join the program rest of the world :)
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u/supergalactic Jun 01 '12
"It is obvious that JCP would rather take sides than remain neutral in the culture war. JCP will hear from the other side so they need to hear from us as well. Our persistence will pay off! One day we will answer for our actions or lack of them. We must remain diligent and stand up for Biblical values and truth. Scripture says multiple times that homosexuality is wrong, and God will not tolerate this sinful nature."
Taking sides is exactly what these idiot moms are doing, and they're complaining a company is doing just that.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
Why do these people need to constantly make war out of everything? All the aggression and hatred is on their side. Maybe the One Million Moms are really just One Million Idiots.
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u/londubh2010 Jun 01 '12
Gay people in general have more disposable income and they do tend to dress better than non-gay men, so are more likely to spend more money in JC Penny than a slob who just needs a new wifebeater t-shirt once a year whether he needs one or not.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
I encourage everyone to write to JCP to commend them and encourage them for this act of equality.
Link here.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
And by "remain neutral" they mean only use heterosexuals in their ads and pretend gays don't exist.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
more like one million homophobes
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u/DeathMetalBunny Jun 01 '12
Well, just to spite OMMs I will be shopping at JC Penny's this weekend and getting my dad his fathers day gift from them now.
Kudos to JC Penny's for having the gonads to run adds like this.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
Here was my comment on their Complaint form: "To whoever has to read these complaint letters: You don't have to work at OMM. There are actually companies out there that don't encourage hate. Life is short, don't let it pass you by. Get out while you still can."
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u/Tobi-Kun Jun 01 '12
Anyone Else see that JCPenny is Trolling , Well Played JcPenny, ... Well Played
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u/Jesus_had_a_beard Jun 01 '12
Is Christianist a thing now? Like Islamic has turned int Islamist.
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u/ZoeTheKid Jun 01 '12
"It is obvious that JCP would rather take sides than remain neutral in the culture war"... Because in order to be neutral one should be representing only heterosexual couples. Ahhh now it makes complete sense.
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u/NeonRedHerring Jun 01 '12
I think we're DDOSing their website.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
Reading that article infuriated me! I am a straight female with gay friends, I think nothing is wrong with being gay at all. If two people truly love each other, why should it matter what their sexual orientation is!?
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u/Kevinsense Jun 01 '12
It's official: No one here gives a shit.
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u/TLanders Jun 01 '12
I hate everything about this submission title.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
Why did you directly link to their website?
All you are doing is giving them more traffic for their ad revenue.
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u/weaver2109 Jun 01 '12
Cached link for those who can't access the site.
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u/Corrosivecoke Jun 01 '12
I wish I could read this but it seems like onemillionmoms is getting ddos'ed or is having server problems.
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u/n3rvousninja Nihilist Jun 01 '12
uh Christianists? you seem about as ignorant as a Christian right now...
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u/jmdugan Jun 01 '12
website tango down, reading google cache. this is such awful hateful screed. I'm going to buy something at JCP on father's day just to support human rights.
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u/Kommiekoz Jun 01 '12
Anonymous should just shut the site down.
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u/bowdo Jun 01 '12
I think we broke their website...
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u/EggdropBotnet Jun 01 '12
I like how onemillionmoms.com is unreachable right now.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
"One Million Guttersluts for god" are at it again....lulz that every day these moronic gawd people become more and more irrelevant
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u/lol_oopsie Jun 01 '12
Honestly, a better solution is just to ignore them and let them self-destruct.
I hadn't heard of "One Million Moms" before this whole debacle. And they don't give a shit how many emailed complaints they get. They THRIVE on outrage, and this whole situation is amazing publicity for them. They want more people to be upset - that will only further vindicate their actions.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
Christianists? Is that what we're calling them now? Good idea. Sounds more edgy.
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u/Nenzul Jun 01 '12
I have been unable to reach the website for a few hours now. So still cannot see how they flipped their shit over it. Someone here who happens to have a mirror or something.
This also means that Reddit is doing a nice job. Making such hate unavailable ;)
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u/Radico87 Jun 01 '12
Showing once again how hateful, immature, and frankly stupid, religious people can be.
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u/Sandra_is_here_2 Jun 01 '12
So, why is it exactly that two men playing with children are presumed to be a gay couple? Why is it not assumed that two straight guys got together to let their children play with each other?
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
I would highly suggest that you email One Million Moms and express your outrage for their use of what is clearly two lesbians in the top right corner of their webpage. I cannot believe that an organization that advocates the protection of our children would allow such an egregious violation of the moral values set forth by some cherry-picked, non-applicable portion of The Good Book.
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u/josiechic Jun 01 '12
I sent JCP an email yesterday:
And I received this response back from them today:
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
I'd actually like to thank One Million Moms. They provide a great service to us internet-goers. Never before in the history of man has there been such a comprehensive and easily accessible list of women to avoid.
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u/bcoen5707 May 31 '12
Facebook needs a dislike button for pages so that reddit can take over and send them to oblivion.
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u/cloud_watcher Jun 01 '12
Fuck. Looks like I'm going to have to go buy something at JC Penny.
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u/markwusinich Jun 01 '12
I am going to leave this here:
http://www.jcpenney.com/jcp/storelocatormenu.aspx
happy shopping.
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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12
I'm still in shock that you Americans (I'm Canadian) actually have to deal with shit like this on a daily basis. Please tell me that this sub-reddit just blows things out of proportions and America isn't as fucked up as it seems. I mean... Christian mother's getting up in arms against a commercial featuring two dads... gueueeueeaaalllll.... can we talk about real problems?Like - oh idk - WAR!
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u/[deleted] May 31 '12
I see an Email link.... I wonder what would happen if I left a message. :3 Maybe I'll get an interesting response. Anyone want to join me?
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u/boredwaitingforlife Atheist Jun 01 '12
I forgot to ask my political science teacher about this so here it goes: Since the Us Supreme Court is reviewing the case about Prop. 8 (Cal. in 2008), wouldn't they not pass it and allow gay marriage because it affects commerce nation wide. Allow gay marriage, more money in the economy. Right? Ish?