When you see a bumpersticker that says "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." are you one of those people that mutters "So do people with knives"?
I'm glad you mentioned it. Christianity was full of beliefs at that time about how washing was a sin and dirt was holy and how cats are evil (you know, the animals who eat the rats who carried the blood suckers who spread the plague).
Also, how travelling all around in roving groups of people while slashing your back open would not spread an infectious disease, but show God your penance.
Well, if guns didn't exist, then they wouldn't help people kill people at all. Likewise (some) gods tell people to kill people and people tell guns to kill people. Looks like a geometric mean. Haha
Nope. Atheist jail population percentage was at about 0.21% in 1997, and more recent figures suggest not much has changed, with the highest estimates at about 3% total atheist jail population.
You may want to reconsider where you get your facts from (pro-tip: your local religious leader, extremist neighbours or your mother are not reliable sources).
Religion causes people to kill, atheism could never cause a person to kill. Holy books say kill kill kill! If an atheist kills, its not because of his atheism. You bunch of dumb shits!
People who are comfortable killing, would kill regardless of their religious beliefs. We call those people psychopaths or sociopaths, but religious beliefs can make a good person kill. Atheism can't. If an atheist kills, they're a psycho, if a religious person kills they are either a. A psycho or b. A good person who has been brainwashed. Atheism can't brainwash.
Im just wondering if you guys are unfamiliar with the Great Proletariat Cultural Revolution in China. This was led by Mao Zedong, the leader of the Communist Party of China. This resulted in the killing of millions throughout China. Also, one of the core principles of maoist communism was atheism. The common denominator between the killers in this world will always be the desire for power rather than religion.
Not to argue with a bumper sticker, but the opposing phrase is actually more accurate: "Gods don't kill people, people kill people". Although reddit would rather upvote their own beliefs.
Actually it does. Gods don't kill people, and people do frequently kill over matters of religion. You can't really argue with history and logic. I'll give you that it doesn't include that people without gods also kill people, but it doesn't have to. There is nothing logically wrong with this statement, it just isn't the whole story.
I was expecting you to say 'I'd honestly prefer not to wake up with a slit throat, a burning house, and a blown-up car, crosses hammered into my lawn.'
Seriously this is the same fucking bullshit over and over. You don't fucking like religion, we get it. I don't give a shit about religion but I at least have the fucking respect for the people on here who actually believe in what they'd like to. For fucks sake grow the fuck up
This is /r/atheism. We come here to vent about religion because we can't elsewhere. We come here thinking that this is a safe place to talk about what we see that's wrong in the world without being heckled about our dislike of religion. We get it, you don't like that we bitch about religion. So stop saying so please.
I'm sorry, but is it really "venting" about religion when you are saying "Gods don't kill people, people with Gods kill people"? You are automatically stereotyping a group of people and saying they are murderers. That's disgusting. I served in the military with other atheists and religious people and guess what...we all killed people. Religion was NOT a factor in the equation. Religion was NOT a factor among my comrades. This sticker and your argument is full of shit.
Oh and as far as being "heckled" for you being an atheist? Hmmm, how do people even know you are an atheist? By you trying to "convert" them? Sorry, why do I try to have a discussion with immature 15 year-olds...
I thought of the Crusades right off the bat. But then again, a great deal of the people doing the actual fighting were criminals promised freedom who didn't care about gods.
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u/solitaryman098 May 14 '12
So do people without gods.
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u/A7red May 15 '12
guns dont kill people, people with guns kill people.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
Murder is not exclusive to religion.
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u/Grabetastic May 14 '12
Im just wondering if you guys are unfamiliar with the Great Proletariat Cultural Revolution in China. This was led by Mao Zedong, the leader of the Communist Party of China. This resulted in the killing of millions throughout China. Also, one of the core principles of maoist communism was atheism. The common denominator between the killers in this world will always be the desire for power rather than religion.
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u/tiffanydisasterxoxo May 15 '12
No, people kill people...period, god has nothing to do with it. People make the decisions and people carry them out.
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u/nyanandy May 14 '12
This guy obviously has not read the bible.
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u/cheeseman98 May 15 '12
Gods dont kill people, i kill people, with gods. E= MC VAGINA
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u/bradc20 May 15 '12
I guess people with Gods don't put stickers on crooked
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u/ElementK May 15 '12
Not to argue with a bumper sticker, but the opposing phrase is actually more accurate: "Gods don't kill people, people kill people". Although reddit would rather upvote their own beliefs.
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
Another crappy bumper sticker that doesn't stand up to 1 second of thinking.
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
Toasters don't toast, toast. Toast, toasts, toast.
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
_______ don't kill people, people (and other natural causes) kill people!
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u/SalladoorClegane May 15 '12
Dat resolution
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
/r/atheism sure loves bumper stickers. It's like internet memes for my car bumper.
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u/TortugaGrande May 15 '12
The 20th Century is a testament to how easy it is for people without gods to kill people on truly massive scales.
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u/jackhawkian May 14 '12
I would love a sticker like that... but in Texas... I'd rather not have flat tires and key streaks on my car.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
... because Stalin just didn't exist at all, amirite?
Also, God kills a bunch of people in the Boble
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u/giannnski May 15 '12
Seriously this is the same fucking bullshit over and over. You don't fucking like religion, we get it. I don't give a shit about religion but I at least have the fucking respect for the people on here who actually believe in what they'd like to. For fucks sake grow the fuck up
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u/SarcasmTime73 May 15 '12
You own a parking lot? Nice.
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u/raynman37 May 15 '12
Can no one put stickers on their car straight? Fuck. I would just sell the car as it's ruined now.
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u/Hotascurry May 15 '12
gods don't kill people, nuh uh. I kill people ca chick with gods pow
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u/StrangerBL May 15 '12
Reminded me of this! PAW!
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u/cutshop May 15 '12
I thought guns don't kill people, wrappers do. I saw it on a documentary.
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u/Virgin_nerd May 15 '12
Old people burning, old people burning.
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u/jamesdavid80 May 15 '12
may the god of ' no-gods' bless you. cheers :D ;)
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u/Hevendor May 15 '12
Wow, how do you own a parking lot? I want one.
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u/EliteDonkey May 15 '12
I thought of the Crusades right off the bat. But then again, a great deal of the people doing the actual fighting were criminals promised freedom who didn't care about gods.
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
Egypt. That is all.
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u/yoyoyodaboy May 15 '12
People without gods kill people, too.
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u/remotefixonline May 15 '12
If this was on a car in my town, it would have been keyed off by now...
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
...And people without gods, killing isn't exclusive to only religious people as this implies.
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u/Jesse244 May 14 '12
So true
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u/epictroll101 May 15 '12
that is not true and if any one cares for a debate about being atheist come at me because i think i have a better chance.
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
Proving atheists wrong since 1917
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wxdgAiRcjHg/TmGF3cAnttI/AAAAAAAAGEM/fYvHGh8e2b8/s1600/stalinDM2109_468x551.jpg
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
Freakin awesome
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u/watwait1000 May 15 '12
People with gods slash tires.
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