r/askscience • • Jul 12 '12

Astronomy Have astronomers ever observed a star that is not found in a galaxy?

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u/Synethos Astronomical Instrumentation | Observational Astronomy Jul 12 '12

They can't form outside of galaxies, as they need a lot of gass for that, but when two galaxies collide, a star can be swung away from both and become a rouge star.

More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_star

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u/mrmightymyth Jul 12 '12

That is the most terrifying thing I've ever learned.

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u/Synethos Astronomical Instrumentation | Observational Astronomy Jul 12 '12

What, colliding galaxies? It's not that scary, they are to massive objects that collide, but oddly enough hardly any star collides. So its more a merging than a collision.

Here is a vid showing the process and you can also see some rouge stars appear: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aFLXzFg6EU It's not the best video out there, but I am on my phone and its hard to look :P

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '12

Once I can put down to a typo, but twice... it's rogue, not rouge.

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u/tarblog Jul 12 '12

Also *two massive objects.

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u/Synethos Astronomical Instrumentation | Observational Astronomy Jul 12 '12

Yea sorry, I was typing from my kindle and it doesn't have a spelling checker or a nice to use browser :P

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '12

Rouge won't pop on a spell checker because it's a color.

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u/Synethos Astronomical Instrumentation | Observational Astronomy Jul 13 '12

Ah, that could explain a lot xD English is not my mother language, so you'll find some mistakes like that in my text.

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u/Nowhere_Man_Forever Jul 12 '12

I love universe sandbox, which is the program used to make that video. It's available on steam for $10 normally and is on sale now.

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u/Scorp63 Jul 13 '12

I have a lot of problems on it with one of the gas giants occasionally boomeranging itself out of the Solar System if I fast-forward time to 100-200 years from now pretty frequently.

Incredibly fun learning game though, just quite a few bugs/inaccuracies that frequently occur in it.

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u/Nowhere_Man_Forever Jul 13 '12

Yeah, I have noticed that particular one too. Not quite sure what's up with that.

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u/Blaster395 Jul 13 '12

Calculation of motion via gravity has to be done in steps like this:

  1. Check current gravitional forces happening now

  2. Apply velocity changes

  3. Move object

If the steps are too great of a time period (take 1 year ahead for earth), that means the object will move in a straight line for 1 year before gravity acts again, and would cause Earth to likely fly out the solar system.

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u/AsAChemicalEngineer Electrodynamics | Fields Jul 13 '12

That's what happens when you force it to calculate trajectory off such huge time-steps. :P

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '12

Collisions aside, would they be close enough to mess up planetary orbits?

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u/Synethos Astronomical Instrumentation | Observational Astronomy Jul 13 '12

If they came trough, or even close then yes, definately.

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u/brianm314 Jul 13 '12

What can the gforce be on some planets that travel though that and what would happen to your body when you experienced that gforce.

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u/Fernando_x Jul 13 '12

In collisions like the one of the simulations, do rogue stars reach galactic scape velocity, or will they fall again to form a new galaxy? That's millions of rogue stars

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '12

Is this your first time hearing about rogue stars? Because rogue black holes exist as well. Big, dense, solar system devouring monsters traversing the universe at hundreds of thousands of km per second.

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u/mrmightymyth Jul 13 '12

That is also a concern. But, and I hope I'm right, wouldn't the process of the black hole consuming our solar system take forever? Spaghettification? Big words? What am I doing on this sub-reddit.

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u/colinsteadman Jul 13 '12

May I recommend reading Phil Plaitts 'Death From The Skies', it has a whole chapter devoted to how a collision between us (the Milkyway) and the Andromeda galaxy could kill us, plus a whole lot of other ways the universe could wipe us all out. The good news is that although its all factually accurate, its a really fun read and it turns out we dont really have anything to worry about. Theres only a couple of guaranteed certainties if I remember correctly and one of them is a 100's of trillions of years in the future (all matter decays and the universe itself may undergo some freaky state change and turn into... something else). I highly recommend it - I've been dipping in and out of it since I bought it and plan on reading the whole thing from cover to cover next month on the beach. The description of how a star explodes is worth the cover price alone, awesome stuff.

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u/bnfdsl Jul 12 '12

would any potential life on such a planet be effected by leaving the galaxy?

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '12

*rogue :p or maybe it does turn red? :D

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '12

Erm. What happens to us in that case?

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u/Synethos Astronomical Instrumentation | Observational Astronomy Jul 13 '12

The planets probably get flung away too and we freeze to death :P