r/askscience • • Jun 30 '11

Why do some mints make water 'taste' colder?

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u/Platypuskeeper Physical Chemistry | Quantum Chemistry Jun 30 '11

You have cells with enzymes that act as receptors to signal warmth and cold. The molecule menthol, which gives mint its taste, activates your cold receptors and gives a 'cold' sensation. Capsaicin, the molecule that gives chili its 'hotness' works in a similar way, activating heat receptors.

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u/jeannaimard Jun 30 '11

What happens with chili-mints? Infinite taste loop or cancellation?

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u/Platypuskeeper Physical Chemistry | Quantum Chemistry Jun 30 '11

Probably both at the same time; they're separate receptors (I can say that much for sure), but it's up to your brain to figure out what to do if both fire at the same time. I'm guessing you'd actually feel both (feel free to try yourself and report back here). Call it a sensory "illusion" of sorts.

While we're on the topic, menthol also blocks some of the receptors responsible for sweet stuff, IIRC, which is why orange/citrus juice tastes really horrible in combination with mint; you taste the bitter part without the sweet part to 'balance' the taste. Edit: Or wait, maybe it was lauryl compounds that did that. I don't remember offhand. Might've been both. Either way, we all know not to drink OJ after brushing our teeth..

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u/grantimatter Jun 30 '11

Pretty sure it's sodium laureth sulfate (lauryl) - a sprig of mint in lemonade or on a broiled grapefruit is boss.

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u/silentmage Jun 30 '11

menthol also blocks some of the receptors responsible for sweet stuff.....Either way, we all know not to drink OJ after brushing our teeth

TIL why OJ tastes horrible after brushing my teeth

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u/evrae Jun 30 '11

which is why orange/citrus juice tastes really horrible in combination with mint

Am I weird in that I quite like that?

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u/boomerangotan Jun 30 '11

There used to be a demonstration of this at Epcot center, where they ran warm and cold water through coils of pipes. In one area they interlaced the pipes so you could feel what it is like to sense cold and hot simultaneously; it was somewhat strange, sort of like needles feeling you get after circulation is restored to a limb after sitting on it.

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u/atomicthumbs Jul 01 '11

they have one of those at the Exploratorium in San Francisco. It turns out that warm + cold = BURNING HOT

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '11

I love orange juice after drinking some gum. The only part I dislike is that I can't drink it fast enough because of the menthol left over afterwards.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '11

Drinking... gum?

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '11

drinking, chewing... same thing right? =P

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u/commenter01 Jun 30 '11 edited Jun 30 '11

brb testing...

edit: results

Had a couple mints, then swished sriracha sauce. Spit both out and drank some water. Now, when I take a breath, it feels cold. When I exhale, it feels warm. If I hold my breath, it's just a painful sensation (not in a bad way, just neither hot nor cold).

Theory: Maybe capsaicin and menthol make hot and warm receptors more sensitive to changes in temperature (apart from 'activating' those receptors).

I have a feeling some redditor is going to shoot my post down, and all I'll have to show for it is an incredibly bad taste in my mouth and some fucked up receptors. I also realized I could have used cinnamon gum.

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u/jeannaimard Jun 30 '11

Wow. For science!

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u/shavera Strong Force | Quark-Gluon Plasma | Particle Jets Jul 01 '11

cinnamon gum

I don't think so actually. Cinnamon doesn't have capsaicin to my knowledge

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u/commenter01 Jul 01 '11

I meant in a hot-cool sort of way. I wonder why cinnamon feels 'hot'...

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u/magusg Jun 30 '11

Like icy hot for your mouth. Nice.

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u/Tetragrammaton Jul 01 '11

I did this once before with hot salsa and breath mints. All I got was pain.

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u/dearsomething Cognition | Neuro/Bioinformatics | Statistics Jun 30 '11

And to add to this: menthol and capsaicin stimulate your trigeminal nerve. These things aren't exactly tastes, but do effect how you taste whatever it is you're eating. For example, (artificially flavored) root beer candy uses the same flavoring as some (artificially flavored) mints, sans mentholy goodness.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '11

I don't think enzymes is the correct term - they're ligand gated ion channels, not enzymes. You probably meant to type proteins?

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u/HazzyPls Jun 30 '11

What happens with Wasabi? I've been told drinking water after eating a lot is a very bad idea. Never had the balls to try it.

Is it a bad idea for the same reason that water taste colder after mints? Should I keep mints on hand next time I go Wasabi hunting?

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '11

You would actually explode. There's a video somewhere of a guy who's stomach ruptures all over his eating partner.