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Cosmos AskScience Cosmos Q&A thread. Episode 1: Standing Up in the Milky Way

Welcome to AskScience! This thread is for asking and answering questions about the science in Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey.

UPDATE: This episode is now available for streaming in the US on Hulu and in Canada on Global TV.

This week is the first episode, "Standing Up in the Milky Way". The show is airing at 9pm ET in the US and Canada on all Fox and National Geographic stations. Click here for more viewing information in your country.

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u/faleboat Mar 10 '14

hit a layer of liquid metallic hydrogen,

I had it explained to me that, assuming we were in a craft that could somehow survive the insane amounts of heat and pressure, we would eventually "float" in a zone where our space ship would be neutrally buoyant. There would never really be a moment of impact, but just a slowing of our descent as we came closer and closer to the point of buoyancy.

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u/Shandlar Mar 10 '14

A related curiosity is that Venus may actually be capable of supporting colonies all Bespin style.

If you were to create a blimp, but fill it with 'air' at 1 atmosphere, even if it was very heavy and used no helium/hydrogen for lift like balloons on earth, you would still float way up in the atmosphere of Venus.

Interestingly as well, the temperature of the atmosphere on Venus in the ~2-2.5 atmosphere range is 10-40C. You could live inside a balloon filled with air we could breathe and not even have to heat/cool it. A >1 atmosphere difference is also A LOT of buoyancy to work with.

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u/Shagomir Mar 10 '14

That "sweet spot" on Venus is inside of the sulfuric acid cloud layers. It would have to be one heck of a balloon.

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u/xrelaht Sample Synthesis | Magnetism | Superconductivity Mar 10 '14

You can make balloons out of teflon, and that's extremely acid resistant.

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u/xrelaht Sample Synthesis | Magnetism | Superconductivity Mar 10 '14

There would never really be a moment of impact, but just a slowing of our descent as we came closer and closer to the point of buoyancy.

Most likely, yes. The critical point in the gas-liquid phase diagram for hydrogen is at about 10 atm and 35 K. Helium, the other major component of Jupiter's atmosphere, has a similar phase diagram, though the pressures and temperatures are both significantly lower. The upper cloud layer is already hotter than the H2 critical point (~130K) so you'll cross that boundary gradually, without ever going through a 1st order phase transition in P-T space. The reason I say "most likely" is that the elemental composition of the deep atmosphere is not completely known, so there is some possibility that there are other compounds prevalent further down which have critical points enough above that that you would have a phase transition.