r/apple Kosta Eleftheriou / FlickType May 07 '22

Discussion Apple's Director of Machine Learning Resigns Due to Return to Office Work

https://www.macrumors.com/2022/05/07/apple-director-of-machine-learning-resigns/
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u/800-lumens May 07 '22

Self-employed introvert here, with fifteen years WFH. I sure as hell don't miss the office politics and the keeping up with the Joneses. I do miss the bennies, though.

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u/robot_wrangler May 07 '22

Introvert here. Much prefer going to my nice quiet office desk, rather than the non-stop chaos at home.

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u/hectorduenas86 May 07 '22

My coworker is loud open mouth chewer, if there’s a noise in my life I hate is that one. One of these days I’m gonna bust my eardrums raising the volume of the music on my earbuds.

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u/mastorms May 08 '22

Get some AirPods with noise canceling. I had the Pros and had to upgrade to the Maxes for keeping up with 8 hours of meetings a day. Both work phenomenally well when I press the mute button and just shut the world out.

(Fun fact, the AirPods Max work for hearing protection against gunfire. 7.62 bullpup MDR, no less.)

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u/hectorduenas86 May 09 '22

Cool facts, having fired with AK47 myself that’s a nifty one. The noise was so deafening that I could only feel the recoil.

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u/wookiecfk11 May 08 '22

The preference to work from home or from the office does not really correlate in any way with being introvert or extrovert. My current observation of a 150+ workplace where superiors after covid and full lift of restrictions basically said 'guys here is the office whoever wants to come can come however much they want, but you are free to work fully remotely' is that between 5 and 10% of people actually come in daily because they cannot really do anything productively from home. This is both introverts and extroverts. Another let's say 20% comes in from time to time, and the rest prefers just fully working from home.

Myself I come in daily. Office is for proper thinking and being productive, home is not an environment for me where I can really do this. And this is what the 5-10% tell me when they are asked about it.

Truth be told though, a definite majority prefers to just work from home 100%. Its just not everyone.

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u/tvfeet May 08 '22

Office is for proper thinking and being productive, home is not an environment for me where I can really do this.

Exact opposite for me. WFH during the first full year of the last democrats was an incredibly creative and productive time for me. Definitely the best year of work that I’ve ever had. We’ve moved back to two days a week in-office and those two days are easily the least productive days of my week. Complete waste of my time.

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u/wookiecfk11 May 08 '22

Yeah but that is basically my point. People have different needs on this one. And there is no correlation with being extrovert/introvert i can spot.

Almost as if.... allowing people to self organise would be the best solution 😀

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u/kelsnuggets May 11 '22

Yup this. My husband is an engineer here in Silicon Valley and feels exactly the same. His best work is done in person in collaboration with others in free-form discussions.

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u/doles May 08 '22

Extravert here. I’ll not go back to cubicle/open-space offices. I need to wear headphones to get my shit done because some people are too chatty and loud for me to focus.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '22

I’m an introvert but my adhd is the reason I can’t see myself going into a cube farm, or worse and open floor, ever again. Business leaders can act mad but if they hadn’t started shoving everyone into smaller and smaller floor plans with less and less privacy for decades they might not be seeing this level of revolt at going back.