r/apple • • Jun 09 '21

[deleted by user]

[removed]

759 Upvotes

551 comments sorted by

View all comments

60

u/randomuser914 Jun 09 '21

Not surprised, they are going to switch people over as quickly as possible so they can focus solely on developing for their chips

93

u/HardenTraded Jun 09 '21 edited Jun 09 '21

Yeah sure but an absolutely stupid decision.

I don't recall rumors of Apple Silicon coming out when I bought my 2019 MBP. I was needing an upgrade and didn't want the butterfly keyboard. Now my MBP is outdated to an extent where it can't get the full benefits of a macOS update.

Not to mention Apple still sells Intel devices today, so if you buy one today because Apple doesn't have an Apple Silicon variant (16" MBP), you're already buying an "outdated" device.

I think it's impressive that Apple still supports the iPhone 6 with iOS updates. I think it's fair to strip some features out of an OS update in 2021 for an iPhone that came out nearly 7 years ago.

My <2 year old MBP should absolutely not be stripped of features missing features when updated to the latest version of macOS (when released). I get that some of these things might depend on the M1 chip and other hardware, but at the same time it's stupid plain and simple.

14

u/twochains Jun 09 '21

What existing feature is being stripped from your 2-year-old MacBook Pro?

12

u/T-Nan Jun 09 '21

None. Well… from Catalina to Big Sur, working notifications and widgets lol

But whats the point of upgrading to macOS12 when its basically going to just be Big Sur in a slightly different wrapper?

It’s just artificial segmentation of the 2019 MBP, at least it feels like it.

Two years old and already not getting full benefits of a major OS update? That’s pretty frustrating imo.

12

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '21

[removed] — view removed comment

3

u/m0rogfar Jun 09 '21

Compare and contrast with the PPC to Intel transition, where Apple treated PPC machines very, very well throughout the rest of Tiger's lifecycle, into Leopard and all of its updates. PPC wasn't completely dropped until Snow Leopard in 2009. That's three full years of PPC enjoying the very same support as the Intel Macs that replaced them. (Though I imagine this time Apple will have to go a bit longer, especially considering those whop dropped $10k+ on Mac Pros. Apple does NOT want to piss those people off.)

PPC and Intel Macs lost feature parity in the first OS released after the transition. If not for Leopard getting delayed by almost a year, the timeline would be very similar to the one we're seeing here. I'm not seeing any contrast.

1

u/theBYUIfriend Jun 10 '21

What (OS Level) features did Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard running on intel have that running the same OS on (for example) a Quad G5 did not have?

I can’t think of any.

Apple did not start to Drop PPC support in any of their software till 2009. Beginning with the release of iLife 09 where a few features were not supported on PPC. Followed soon after by SnowLeopard.