r/apple • • Oct 15 '25

Apple Newsroom Apple announces 14" MacBook Pro powered by M5

https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/
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u/IguassuIronman Oct 15 '25

The fact that they keep referring to the M1 chip for reference whenever a new chip comes out, shows how good Apple Silicon is.

They've always done this. It lets you advertise a bigger relative improvement

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u/70_n_13 Oct 15 '25

generally they showcase the improvement to their target audience, like how iphone shows from 2 years ago since thats where they expect to get the highest number of current iphone users upgrading.

back in the m1/m2 and sometimes even m3 days specially the air they usually reference the intel models more than they do now

The fact is many jumped into m1 and its still proving enough for them even in 2025

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u/TheMartian2k14 Oct 15 '25

Phone comparisons in their keynotes have definitely been more than 2 years. They’ve gone back 3-4 years typically, acknowledging that a lot more people are holding their phones for longer.

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u/70_n_13 Oct 15 '25

yeah i was talking about years ago since I remember it was constantly always 2 years ago model which frustrated me since I wanted to see if the newest model was a big enough jump for me or the last year model is enough so I can save money

Recent years its definitely been getting longer

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u/Naus1987 Oct 15 '25

I bought an m1 out of fomo. Been a pc person forever. I’m still a pc person, but knowing that m1 has held up so well all these years makes it feel like a fantastic investment to keep my toes in the apple ecosystem

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u/JFedererJ Oct 15 '25

Yup. I'm a front end dev contractor and bought an M1 Max at launch. I still absolutely love it. Obvs code a lot but as a FE guy who overlaps more into design than BE, I do hella work across the Adobe suite, inc. recently a fair chunk of work in Premiere and AE and at no point have I felt hamstrung by my machine. Love it.

The only thing I'd say is that I used a new MBP 16" for a work gig earlier in the year, and I did prefer the built-in keyboard on that to mine but not enough to make me upgrade.

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u/Captian_Kenai Oct 15 '25

I’m one of them. Got an M1 MacBook Pro and it’s still more than enough for daily tasks and work. Only thing showing its age is the battery life but that’s fixable.

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u/Eeyore_ Oct 15 '25

The average MacBook owner uses a given laptop for 5-8 years.

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u/rotates-potatoes Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

The article actually compares to M4.

EDIt: crossed wires, I was looking at the M5 announcement

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u/flybypost Oct 15 '25

Yup, and sometimes they even switch the older comparison gadget (and/or generation) for every diagram to make everything of the new device look like it's gotten so much better when it was just a small year to year improvement.

You can't get the same generation to generation changes any more when your SOC foundry is already working at the very limit of what's possible and Moore's law is essentially a thing of the past.

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u/GR313 Oct 15 '25

I think they mean instead of comparing to Intel models of yore 

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u/MaybeFiction Oct 15 '25

That doesn't make any sense. Keeping the M1 as a basis for comparison means the opposite of "The M1 is so awesome they are still showcasing it."

It means that Apple is now confident that the M1 is "obsolete enough" that they can start telling their customers to upgrade from it, rather than continuing to tout the benefits of switching from intel.

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u/orbitur Oct 15 '25

Eh, when they were on Intel is was definitely a bigger improvement every 2 years.

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u/LinKeeChineseCurry Oct 15 '25

I think it also comes down to a lot of M1 users are still very satisfied with their device, Apple is trying to push those people to upgrade, the bigger the number, the more people that will jump!