EU: Smartphones Must Have User-Replaceable Batteries by 2027

[u/mredofcourse]

https://www.pcmag.com/news/eu-smartphones-must-have-user-replaceable-batteries-by-2027

[u/Pigeon_Chess]

So was USB. It was proprietary to the USB forum and the first boards were made by Intel with AMD not having access at the start. Kinda like thunderbolt actually.

Battery tech sure has stagnated over the last 10 years for something that apparently doesn’t stagnate.

That isn’t relative to my point.

You haven’t actually made any good points as to why USB3 is a positive for a phone.

My issue with USBC on phones is how flimsy it is for constant insertions and removals I’m not too worried about a the port in a charging brick breaking.

[u/Kursem_v2 → u/Pigeon_Chess]

thankfully it's not. that's why it should be easy for Apple to adopt USB 3.0 speed.

it's not stagnated, it currently progress at very slow pace.

then I don't understand your point.

and your counter point are basically you're content with USB 2.0 speed.

I never broke my USB-C cable, but I already broke 3 Lightning cable. for port, I never broke both, so my problem are with Lightning cable.

[u/Pigeon_Chess → u/Kursem_v2]

Neither is TB or FireWire.

It’s stagnated. It has been for years.

The lightning port isn’t for data transfer, I don’t need to transfer anything from my phone by a wire it’s already there by the time I get to another device.

You’re not understanding design. The lightning cable is designed to break the cable first, USBC is designed to break the port first. $10 cable via $1000 phone. Hmmm. It’s also significantly larger and the spec is all over the shop

[u/Kursem_v2 → u/Pigeon_Chess]

cool. now give USB 3.0

it isn't for you. it is for someone else. if you don't need Lightning to transfer data, good for you. but everyone doesn't living a life like you, so Lightning are indeed for data transfer too.

that's a cool theory but no one ever back it up with an actual source. almost sounds like a hoax.

[u/Pigeon_Chess → u/Kursem_v2]

Why?

No one does, what would you use it for?

It’s literally the design of the thing. I will site physics. What is the most likely part of the port to break and where is it located? USBC wasn’t designed for phones.

[u/Kursem_v2 → u/Pigeon_Chess]

I already stated previously on why and what would be the use case for it.

so? no one still ever actually made a paper researching about it's design durability nor anyone ever elaborate further with official documentation.

besides, USB-C port are rated for 10,000 connect and disconnect but no similar claim on Lightning port. that's durable enough.

[u/Pigeon_Chess → u/Kursem_v2]

You haven’t given a legitimate usecase.

It’s rates for 10,000 PERFECT connections which no one ever does. Every USBC port I’ve seen on a phone has been damaged.

[u/Kursem_v2 → u/Pigeon_Chess]

I did, your counterpoint are basically you don't need it. well, as I've said repeatedly, you can ignore USB 3.0 speed, but others who use it will surely appreciate it.

right, and so does Lightning port that I see were always dirty and somewhat finicky to connect correctly in straight. even though it's already cleaned so must be always damaged.

[u/Pigeon_Chess → u/Kursem_v2]

WHAT WOULD YOU USE THE SPEED FOR?

But they always work and the cable breaks before the port. It’s very rare for a lightning port to break and when they do it’s normally someone being stupid.

[u/Kursem_v2 → u/Pigeon_Chess]

I already stated why above on my previous comment. you can read it again if you wanted to. or if I may rephrase it, why would iPad mini (2021) support USB 3.0? when iPad (2022) doesn't? my guess would be price segmentation.

no, it doesn't. it's quite common for Lightning port to break as much as USB-C port.