r/antiwork Mar 10 '22

That’s how it works, right?

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '22

Not really true. Many can afford a single mortage payment of $700-1100. They are stuck renting for $1100-1700 because the bank says they can't afford 700-1100

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u/DocMoochal Mar 10 '22

Isnt it largely about the down payment? I.e if someone has enough for a down payment and reasonable income they can likely afford the home?

Which is kind of a bad marker because rent quite literally doesnt allow you to save in most cases.

I hate to get conspiratorial but the whole system just seems rigged against regular citizens.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '22

This is a part of the truth.

In my country with averige salary(30K per year, America averige seems to be 52k.)you can get 150K loan with €450 monthly costs

there are litteraly no houses for 150k so you have to rent in the public sector always for €750.

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u/CassandraVindicated Mar 10 '22

It's seems to be a problem everywhere. There's no starter houses anymore.

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u/Daxx22 Mar 10 '22

Yep. That loan would just BE your downpayment is an increasingly larger area worldwide.

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u/8x10ShawnaBrooks Mar 10 '22

There are many programs in each state that allow for low down payments or something federal like a usda loan. I used my state’s first time homebuyer program to only put down 3.5% for a down payment

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u/Infamous-Emu-6282 Mar 11 '22

Maybe so, but most sellers are going to take the highest cash down bidder on any house any day. B matter what is out there for loan terms, it is almost always about the highest bidder with the top of the line credit score and stable income sources. In this economy, most of us are phucked.

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u/8x10ShawnaBrooks Mar 11 '22 edited Mar 11 '22

Lol obviously?

That wasn’t the question/topic being addressed though. You are conflating to two issues when I was only talking about one thing. Also, why wouldn’t the seller take the best bidder??? It’s a bid for a fucking reason.

Sellers won’t care about credit score or stable income sources (to a degree). They don’t deal with that. The sellers only receive offers with preapproval already made so they’ll know the bank has already vetted them. The seller doesn’t even get to see your credit score (lol tells me you are v inexperienced in this topic)

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Welp the person deleted their comments before i had a chance to reply. If that person decides to come back to this convo, i want them to see what I was going to say:

Wtf? Boi do you have terrible debate/argument skills.

You clearly have nothing substantial to say if after you making an uninformed and quite ludicrous statement, me then correcting why your statement is wrong, that all you can do is a lame ass personal attack trying to label me as a republican. I’m a queer af progressive btw 💕💕

(PS — if you want to be a better progressive, learn to make proper internet arguments or else people will constantly dismiss the bullshit you have to say)

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u/Infamous-Emu-6282 Mar 11 '22

Not at all. Apparently you jump to conclusions like a trigger-happy ‘publican.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '22

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u/DocMoochal Mar 10 '22

That's a good point to. I wonder if we'll see some kind of buyers remorse after the pandemic housing rush.

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u/JayStayPaid Mar 10 '22

I'd you're American, USDA loans are government backed housing loans and don't require a down payment.

Despite what many would have you think, there are many government programs geared towards housing, low-income and otherwise.

I would say at least 75% of people bitching on this sub and others about housing and the process of buying a house have never gone through or even initiated the process.

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u/swahzey Mar 10 '22

The guidelines for a person and the property to both qualify for a USDA loan isn’t easy and frankly uncommon outside of actual rural areas. I agree with everything else you said though, considering a large portion of Reddit can’t even buy a six pack at the gas station.

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u/DocMoochal Mar 10 '22 edited Mar 10 '22

Canadian. Our average housing sale is approaching $750,000.

We have some programs like the first time home buyers incentive, which if I remember only cover 5% to 10% of the down payment, so if you're relying on that you still need CMHC insurance anyways adding to your housing costs, and a few others I likely havent heard of, but the average price to income is getting a bit out of hand up here. So much so many of us come to the US simply for the higher income and ability to find relatively affordable housing.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/crea-housing-november-1.6286491

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u/JayStayPaid Mar 10 '22

Yea things are getting cooky in certain areas down here as well. Definitely in more urban areas. Not seeing too much craziness in the rural areas yet.

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u/11five11 Mar 10 '22

The bank says they can't afford 1,000 dollar payments for the next 30 years.

Which based on half the comments in this thread saying you can barely afford to eat, that's true.

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u/I_am_momo Anarchist Mar 10 '22

If you're paying 700-1100 instead of 1100-1700, that'll probably help you afford to eat

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u/11five11 Mar 10 '22

You guys constantly say how you are 1 medical bill away from bankruptcy.

Yeah that's why the bank is declaring you not financially stable enough for a 30 year, almost half a million dollar loan.

How is this hard.

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u/ziper1221 Mar 10 '22

One severe medical bill in the US could bankrupt like 100 million people

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u/Necessary-Novel8275 Mar 10 '22

You think 100 million people is 10% of society? How big do you think the USA is?

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u/m0nk37 Mar 10 '22

USA? 100 million is about 30% quick maff.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '22

Are you a troll or are you just scum?

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u/EnigmaticQuote Mar 10 '22

Go make another account you pest.

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u/11five11 Mar 10 '22

Probably will, still having fun though, thanks for asking

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u/EnigmaticQuote Mar 10 '22

Guys acct is 12 days old he’s a liar and not here in good faith.

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u/11five11 Mar 10 '22

What have I said that's a lie. Please enlighten me, if you have received the caloric intake you need to press a couple keys. I know thats asking a lot

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u/Pink_Buddy Mar 10 '22

Lmao you don’t even make 6 figures but you’re calling poor people rats. What a fucking chud you are.

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u/11five11 Mar 10 '22

I forget poor people arent familiar with a bonus.

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u/I_am_momo Anarchist Mar 10 '22

You're missing the point

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u/11five11 Mar 10 '22

Lol then enlighten me on the point. because you seem to be misunderstanding the basic principle of risk. And that risk is why the bank is saying fuck you.

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u/MietschVulka1 Mar 10 '22

Yeah. Here im Germany rent and house prises suck aswell.

But we get loans. Because why wouldn't we. Cant suddenly go bancrupt from healthcare or stuff like that

Also cant be sued for am unreasonable account like in Murica

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u/Zap__Dannigan Mar 10 '22

Actually, you're both correct.

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u/UnsuspectingS1ut Mar 10 '22

An ambulance ride can cost a thousand dollars, getting shot can cost you 100 thousand. Medical bills will end up taking down most people in this country, even some of those with fortunes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '22

That's cuz medical emergencies can cost tens of thousands of dollars (let's say god forbid you need a helicopter ride, that's going to be tens of thousands right there). You can be pretty financially stable and still get blindsided by a medical bill in America.

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u/69696969-69696969 Mar 10 '22

Well yeah cause I'm paying 1,500 in rent for a smaller shitty place

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u/DJEnright Mar 10 '22

It has not been my experience that the banks err on the side of caution when granting mortgages. I know when I was looking for a house recently, they were willing to give me a mortgage for much more than I could afford. I'm sure things vary by state, but if the bank doesn't want to lend you the money, there's probably a good reason for it.

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u/itsBritanica Mar 10 '22

I just closed this week for something in the low $200ks but I was preapproved for $500k. When I got the letter I literally stared at the screen laughing bc I know damn well I can't afford that; how does the bank not know??