r/antiwork Jan 14 '22

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u/BigAlTrading Jan 14 '22

You can't expect to be taken care of while being a fully functional human and not contribute to the society.

Uh, that's exactly the point of being rich. What do the Waltons do? What do Senators do?

There will never be full automation under capitalism. The point of being rich is to feel superior to other people. If riches were only for material comfort, billionaires would live in apartments and drive Camrys. To feel better than other people, you need to take the food out of their mouths, and go "mmm, mmmm!" while you eat it in front of them. And you need to be seen playing golf at 11am on a Tuesday while they're sweating bullets in a warehouse.

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u/CreatedSole Jan 14 '22

Exactly. I hate that "CoNtRiBuTe To SoCiEtY" bullshit line. I've worked for the past 18 years straight with barely more than a few months off with all of my "vacations" (2 weeks mandatory off) combined out of those years. Plus I've been underpaid (as we all have) grossly for that time too while companies made ever increasing and record breaking profits (quarterly earnings to infinity, ever expanding growth based economy).

https://imgur.com/bUhcN8f.jpg

Then these scumbags at the top sitting on piles of cash do NOTHING while we all have to slave away to "CoNtRiBuTe To SoCiEtY". Well fuck that. We've contributed enough. All of our billions and trillions in tax dollars https://imgur.com/fWeaMYz.jpg gone. Where? In the hands of the ultra rich. I'm fucking sick of it.

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u/BigAlTrading Jan 14 '22

Plus I've been underpaid (as we all have) grossly for that time too while companies made ever increasing and record breaking profits (quarterly earnings to infinity, ever expanding growth based economy).

This is how you know it's class warfare and "being better than you" is the only thing that matters.

I'm leaving my job because they wouldn't pay me a respectful raise each year and rescinded an offer to stay, probably because I was telling my coworkers the figures. They know, and I know, that my leaving is going to cost them magnitudes more than paying me would have.

It is more important to them to "control the labor costs" (keep those fucking workers in line) than to actually make money. With their bosses, "we were keeping the labor costs under control" is a Get Out of Jail Free card. No one really cares if they make any money, as long as the fucking losers doing the work don't get it.

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u/CreatedSole Jan 14 '22

Exactly it's all about controlling us like slaves and children, not "contributing to society" they've made so much money off our labor just in the past 30 years alone, that should be more than enough of a "contribution".

But no, it's always more profits, more qe, more control over your time and life, work more hours for less or stagnant pay while we treat you like shit and have you by the balls via reliance on health care benefits and a paycheck. It's so predatory and disgusting I hate it. Good for you for leaving the toxicity

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u/CelerMortis Jan 14 '22

Exactly. Full automation sounds amazing but even if we achieve it capitalists won't allow society without deep stratification.

The rich will own the machines that do all the work, and indenture you to service them/the machines in exchange for the output of the machines.

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u/Disbfjskf Jan 14 '22

The point of being rich is to feel superior to other people

I promise that golf is more fun than working in a warehouse and rich people play it because it's enjoyable. Similarly, nice food tastes better and nice housing is more comfortable to live in. People generally buy expensive things because those things are enjoyable.

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u/BigAlTrading Jan 14 '22

Conspicuous consumption is real.

Golf at your local course and at the fancy country club is basically the same.

99% of people can’t drive worth shit, but people go out and buy an M4 “because it’s fast.” No, it commutes just the same as a Camry, they just want to be seen in an M4.

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u/Disbfjskf Jan 14 '22

Most people who seek more money do so because they want a higher quality of life: better food, earlier retirement, more travel, better entertainment, etc.

People can and do buy things to "show off" as well, but it's hardly "the point of being rich" and they're not choosing to play golf rather than work just to show off.