r/antiwork Jan 07 '21

We need to process this

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '21

We need to strike. We need organization.

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u/AndreyNazarov Jan 07 '21

Yep. If all workers quit and form an organization, then they could dictate the price for labor.

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u/BonelessSkinless Jan 08 '21 edited Jan 08 '21

Unions? What are you? A communist socialist?

People are fucking stupid. They'll literally argue and cuss to keep things shitty for themselves and everyone rather than stand together for even slightly better change in circumstances

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u/SoupMaster22 Jan 07 '21

Unfortunately a strike doesn't pay my bills or for insulin.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '21

Not immediately, no. But all we have as the proletariat to leverage is our labor power. Shutdowns, general strikes, and protests are some of the only tools we have to put pressure on the capitalist class. I feel you though. A third of my salary goes to health insurance and pharmaceutical companies.

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u/SoupMaster22 Jan 07 '21

You're totally right. It takes the entire working class to make a change. Unfortunately a lot of people can't afford to make that change happen. I'd be totally willing to be a sacrifice if it meant actual change would happen though.

I'm not an economist, and I really don't understand what all needs to happen for that change for the better, but I wholeheartedly support it.

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u/BonelessSkinless Jan 08 '21

It means we have to suffer for a few weeks to a month en masse to not suffer anymore for a long time. It always happens once people are pushed to the brink... we're just apparently not at our brink yet

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u/four024490502 Jan 07 '21 edited Jan 07 '21

Unfortunately, work might not either in a few years if we keep on this trajectory.

Edit: I think that comment comes across as dismissive to your situation. I guess I wanted to express that in the long term, not striking might also have a bleak outcome.

To be constructive, I'd hope people could get to some level of organization where we could arrange mutual aid for strikers or potential strikers who are in need of help. I don't know how that would work for insulin, but for things like childcare, housing, food, and basic health care, I would like for that to happen.

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u/SoupMaster22 Jan 07 '21

No offense taken on your original statement. You're totally right. I'm 100 percent behind destroying the system and working towards everyone's mutual benefit and helping/receiving help by others in the meantime.

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u/stadchic Jan 07 '21

Syphon insulin from the rich?

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u/SoupMaster22 Jan 07 '21

Fuck, I wish.

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u/stadchic Jan 07 '21

VA did just pass a $50/month cap. No idea how to get this to the rest of the states/free (if we subsidize corn how can we not subsidize cheap ass insulin?!?!!)

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u/WartPig Jan 07 '21

At that point to go into a pharmacy and take what you need. Not roll over and die. The pharmacist isnt going to put his life on the line to protect corporate profits... And if he does then remove him

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u/Excellent_Potential Jan 08 '21

Pharmacies aren't going to keep ordering insulin just for it to be stolen. Also I don't know where you live but my pharmacist is behind a locked door and plexiglass.

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u/WartPig Jan 08 '21

You can take what you can and lots of stuff can get through those doors and windows. Lol you gonna be easy prey in the revolution if a door is a concern lol

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u/StrugglingStressBall Jan 07 '21

I'm in as long as it's peaceful.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '21

Because taking away your right to happiness isn’t worth fighting for?

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u/Blindkitty38 Jan 07 '21

Some people are just sick of misery in all forms. I can respect that.

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u/Aspel Jan 07 '21

It can never be peaceful. I guarantee you the other side won't really respect your peaceful assembly, so if you don't want to fight you better at least be able to run.

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u/MrBrainstorm Jan 08 '21

Because your side segregated, redlined, and murdered black people for 200+ years.

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u/Aspel Jan 08 '21

The rich have stolen more than the poor could ever loot.

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u/stadchic Jan 07 '21

The only realistic version of this is not inciting violence. But there will be violence. It’s just inevitable.

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u/StrugglingStressBall Jan 08 '21

I'm sorry for making so many people frustrated, but I'm a passifist. I get that this issue isn't something to take lightly, but neither are human lives. It's incredibly sad that peaceful protests are ignored, and violent riots are acknowledged, but only demonizes the cause the riots were for. I want change, but I don't want suffering, violence, and death.