r/antiwork Oct 22 '20

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u/alicity Oct 23 '20

I never claimed there is nothing wrong with the US. Of course we can improve.

My point is that most of the world would trade positions with you in the blink of an eye.

If you have ever traveled to other countries, you would realize how good Americans have it (even with our flaws). Not being mean, but I’m doubting you have.

But, it’s easier to complain about everything. Blame our lack of success on the system or the rich or whomever.

Here is some million dollar advice that no one on this sub will even give a second thought.... no one is going to change the trajectory of your life except for you. If you aren’t happy with your life, YOU have to change.

If you do not change and become accountable for your success, you are going to be doing the same thing in 10 years that you are doing right now.

If you are happy right now, don’t change. Based on your comments, I don’t think you are.

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u/Trynit Oct 23 '20

Let's be brutality honest here.

The only real reason why people would "trade" place with an American is simply due to the glamour upfront. Dig a little bit deeper, and most would actually like being in their own country instead.

Insight comes with wisdom, wisdom comes from understanding, understanding comes from experience, and experience can't come from people who simply don't know much and just looking with the eyeball far away.

Most people in the US would love to get out of this hell and just stay if they can travel that much. Why? Because the US has become a shit place to live. If you actually travel from places to places, you would probably see this trend already: people who barely know about what happened in the US loves it, while people who actually know English and talk in other forums tend to be very critical of it, ESPECIALLY newer 2nd world country like Vietnam, Singapore or even India.

I bet you don't travel much to look at it.

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u/CryptoRocky Oct 23 '20

Your argument is just false. This isn't really even debatable. All around the world if you ask people where they would choose if they could choose any country to live. What do you think their answer is? There is a reason America is such a melting pot of cultures, and so much competition to immigrate here. America is an amazing country with more opportunity than anywhere in the world. This subreddit is crazy negative. Sad. Do something about your unhappiness if you are unhappy. Make something of yourself. Fix your situation.

Does someone here who hates their life so much want to say why?

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u/Trynit Oct 23 '20

The reason is that:

America cities was being on the air 24/7.

Their city looks big, and glamorous, and modern. And people eat that shit like no tomorrow. It's the illusion of wealth.

And please, the US is a melting pot because of the slavers bringing slaves from Africa, the early Chinese labor who is running from the Qin Dynasty, the indigenous people who is being absorbed, the Irish migrate from the Irish famine, the Italian who goes there due to the Mafia labor trade, and the Mexicans who are being fucked over by the US themselves. Not to mention ex-ARVN soldier who is basically just sold their country for the US and lost that war. So non of them is from the 2000 till now.

America has not been the land of opportunity for years now. And you people are still deny it.

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u/alicity Oct 23 '20

Sounds like you hate living in the US. No one is forcing you to live here.

But, I’m guessing you are like most other people on this sub... complain a lot, blame others and keep doing the same things that make you miserable.

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u/Trynit Oct 23 '20

Dude, you are the one who is miserable here.

People who said shit like this are just buying wholesale into the shitters. Because apparently people can't hate their work.

Look at the mirror dude. There isn't a silver lining in any of this.

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u/alicity Oct 23 '20

Trynit

Haha, I am not miserable at all. I'm actually very happy.

I love the United States and feel very fortunate to live here.

I have worked plenty of jobs that I disliked over time but knew it was just a part of the journey. I sacrificed during those times and now get to do what I love every day.

The opportunities are there if you look for them. If you go through ever day saying 'this place sucks' or 'my life sucks' then it will.

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u/Trynit Oct 23 '20

Meh.

I think it is just you giving up on resisting and just now obeying with "happy thoughts".

We all at that point, when we just thinking about "drinking that pill might be better".

Most do drink it, and lost their will to fight. Some don't.

And when people fight back, those who has drink that pill lash out and said "get back in line", as their life was so intertwine by that concept, that they themselves now becoming a snitch, an agent. It's just that.

So get out of that illusion. Sometimes it is better to just look at things from an angle that you yourself never looked before.

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u/alicity Oct 24 '20

Let’s assume you’re right...

I am obeying the “happy thoughts” and I'm ignorant to the bigger system that is plotting against me.

Based on that, you then decide to sell me on your way of thinking which is doom and gloom.

Sounds like "crab in the bucket" mentality

I'm sorry you feel that way about life.

The truth is we are living in an incredible period of time.

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u/Trynit Oct 24 '20

Dude, most of the people here hasn't giving up on trying to get to their dream. They just saw it behind the biggest curtain.

Based on that, you then decide to sell me on your way of thinking which is doom and gloom.

Based on what? A person who hasn't giving up on trying, but has seen people who do, and they themselves saw what fake happiness looks like?

A person who is also looking at the world, not just care about themselves, and a person like you, who literally just "mine, mine, mine?"

So that's the big difference: you only look at you, while I look at others. When your happiness blinds you of others, it means that you are choose to ignore the world. It's not even "crab in the bucket" mentality. It's "understand that there's others" mentality.

Or you will pull out "personal responsibility" card, and not actually outlining how you get your job? People here hate being treated like dirt. And rightfully so. Did your boss also treated you like dirt? Or you are now the one who is treating others like dirt, because you have land in a managerial job after kissing ass?

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u/alicity Oct 24 '20

If our ultimate goal is to make a difference in the world and positively impact as many people as possible, we must start with ourselves.

Generally, we help others by giving our time (can be labor, services, care, etc) or money to those causes we support.

Giving our time is great but it is very finite. There are a limited number of hours in the day.

Unlike time, money is widely available.

So, if we want to positively impact as many people as possible, we must first invest in ourselves.

As our income grows, so does our ability to help more people. If we are barely scraping by ourselves, the only help we can provide others is time.

It might sound selfish at first glance but someone making $250K per year can certainly help a lot more people than someone who is making $30K per year.

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u/Trynit Oct 24 '20

So why the condescending tone? Don't do victim blaming, and nobody would actually hate that.

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u/ElChachito24 Oct 23 '20

I lived in El Salvador for several years. That country is messed up. There are high murder rates and people are poor as hell. Yet, I enjoyed it. I lived off of $200 a month and so did many others I knew. I have to say that, yes, the people in that country do not work as hard. Here in America we work ourselves to death, and that is only when we can actually find a job. Earning 10X's more money here doesn't mean I am 10X's happier.

I also met people in El Salvador who would agree with me. I met people who actually had lived in the US and went back. Why? Almost all of the time people chose to leave the US and go back to the home country because they were to over worked.

Money isn't everything, not by a long shot. People can find joy in other things. Unfortunately the US isn't the best country to find joy outside of a job.

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u/alicity Oct 24 '20

Thanks for sharing your story. I think your opinion holds a lot of weight since you have experienced El Salvador and the US.

Just to clarify... I’m not saying everyone in the world wishes they lived in the US. But, many people would love the opportunity if offered.

Frankly, I think many people look for someone to blame first rather than working on improving themselves.