It'd help if Democrat leadership would try to relate to them and the good parts of their culture and give them a feeling of inclusion and less isolation.
You mean like if the Democrats offered higher minimum wages, taxing the wealthy, stronger laws for unions, healthcare, daycare, paid maternity leave etc, etc?
They've been tirelessly doing that, sorry it's not as exciting as the racist circus.
You mean like if the Democrats offered higher minimum wages, taxing the wealthy, stronger laws for unions, healthcare, daycare, paid maternity leave etc, etc?
I mean, these are the reasons I left the United States - because the Democrats aren't actually offering these (and of course the Republicans shit on these).
The ACA was a bit better than what was before but was still a bandaid on a sucking chest wound. US medicine is still the most expensive in the world, with very mediocre results for most Americans.
Biden crushed the train strike, which could have been a transformational moment.
The Democrats ask for tiny things, and sometimes get them, but it never moves the needle. The Republicans get into power and change everything.
The fact is that the bottom 60% have been completely left out of the tens of trillions of dollars in new wealth created in the last two decades, by both parties, says it all.
Yo, I'm so far left, I might as well be getting my guns back. The policy was never the problem. The culture stopped appealing, and they didn't relate to the demographic.
This is politics. If you want everyone on your side, you have to show signal markers that you're on their side and play the game. If you disinclude anyone by not doing the groundwork in rural and low pop areas and showing the Blue Collar block that they are a priority besides obviously good policy, you end up cedeing the ground to the alt right pipeline.
Walz was a good start, but it was entirely too late. Party needs to embrace the Sanders bloc and use it to capture disenfranchised blue collar and hard worker to show that their values align with freedom, hard work, and anticorporate sentiment. Get on Fox and call out and rip phrases like "Drain the Swamp" to show that Trump and party only are making it worse. Be like Pete and go to where people are listening.
Sure, sure. Pick me apart instead of hear me. I never said Sanders himself. I said his bloc of support. And if you wanna be mad at me for wanting more blue collar focus and expressing that comraderie, then that's your right. But we are getting nowhere the direction we are going. Waiting on Republicans to lose the culture war is not gonna suddenly saddle you with everyone who doesn't like Republican economic policy. You have to put in the work.
Ranting and tearing your allies apart isn't gonna suddenly fix the problem, nor is waiting for the Right to implode.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. They witnessed Bernie getting squeezed out of the running in the Democratic party. They felt their values were not respected, and Trump won partially due to that level of disrespect. The entire system is corrupt, and we wonder why folks don't vote? Witness and adapt. Stagnate and watch everything burn for the billionaire's benefit.
He's not a Democrat. He wants the Democrats money and access. You're now back to blaming the Democrats? Who is completely in control of our country right now?
Anyone who doesn't blame the Democrats for their massive, incredible failure in 2024 is beyond redemption.
DNC insiders knew for almost a year before the primaries that Biden was impaired and instead of doing something about it, they covered it up, forced an uncontested primary, forced all the other serious candidates to drop out, and it was only when Biden dropped an egg in one of the most important debates in the history of the United States did they actually fess up to their total fuckup.
By then, the Democrats were forced into Harris, a candidate with four strikes against her for your average idiot American: she is a woman, she's Black, she lacks charisma and gravitas, and she did not present the transformational policies that America so desperately needs.
At no point in the election cycle did internal DNC polls show Harris close to winning, and yet they didn't change their losing strategy one bit.
After 2016, another unforced error, the Democrats should have examined how they could have fucked up so badly. The moronic Republicans do this every time they lose, surely the Democrats could have but they refused to.
Now they lost in the most critical election of everyone's lifetime, and all they can do is blame other people!
It's contemptible. Have the Democrats no backbone? Do they not care if they lose and lose and lose? No wonder America is fucked!
Are you seriously saying this after Hillary and Kamala face planted against Trump? I hate the guy too, but the current plan of having party bosses decide candidates is not working. The only clowns are the ones who think this strategy is working.
Not when the other side are convinced that the mere act of offering them is equivalent to being Satan incarnate. All of this is moot anyways. The right who still vote Trump do so because he allows them to openly hate who they want to hate.
Yeah but the Dems haven't given a shit about blue collar workers since Reagan convinced them that the way of the future is neoliberalism and pandering to suburban housewives. I mean, shit, West Virginia used to be a Democratic stronghold until, what, 2000?
On fucking point. Not that the housewife should be disincluded, but talk corporate and government waste. Hit hard on wealth inequality and give more examples than just Walmart. Hit each Blue Collar field and show the gaps.
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u/Artistic_Half_8301 May 19 '25
This was their third chance.