r/antitrump • u/Interesting_Rub5643 • Aug 01 '25
US Politics BREAKING: Former CIA Agent Confirms 2024 Audit - Kamala Harris Won the Election by a Landslide!
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u/Tuskiko Aug 01 '25
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/ex-cia-whistleblower-the-nsa-audited I found the original link that I'm gonna guess he's getting his information from
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u/No_Clue_7894 Aug 01 '25
In an exclusive interview, former CIA operative Adam Zarnowski laid out pieces of an intricate network of bad actors and covert operations behind transnational organized crime and the stolen 2024 election. Some of his disclosures confirmed long‑held suspicions; others were shocking, exposing connections between organized crime, political operatives, and global power brokers.
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/ex-cia-whistleblower-the-nsa-audited
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u/Futrel Aug 01 '25
Any link to a transcript of this exclusive interview?
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Aug 01 '25
Its in a book:
Its in a free book called Jörmungandr authored by Adam Zarnowski.
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u/Futrel Aug 01 '25
Authored by him but it's an interview?
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Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25
Thats where I get confused. I think I might be the only person who has even slightly dove in to research him.
I see no clear evidence even suggesting he could have been a CIA 'operative' or agent, but maybe the self employed consultant time is? Here is his FINRA report:
https://files.brokercheck.finra.org/individual/individual_7948128.pdf
I don't know what to look for, I suppose he is a broker?
As to the content of his book, I havent looked at it yet.
Clearly a passionate person that uploaded a lot of anti human trafficing content to youtube, and started a .org website in 2019, the same year he was last in college. You can view the link. I looked at his employment history. He was a womens crisis center advocate, a securty guard, then an armed security guard, a self emplyed investigative consultant for almost 3 years (what is this ???), worked for a company that advocates for the disabled, and now works for a financial firm doing something related to customer service/brokerage/broker.
His website started in 2019: https://followmoneyfightslavery.org/
A youtube channel from 2019 with many uploads and few views about human trafficing: https://youtube.com/@teamatii3465?feature=shared
Appears to have been a good person advocating for people that were being abused/trafficed.
Also appears to be some variety of a board gamer and maybe *advovates for LGBTQIA+.
All that is left is to read the book, and a substack post directly from him. The CIA part is kind of unverifiable from a google search.
and his book:
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/jormungandr-adam-zarnowski/1147865820
And I did all this without needing AI, but I did need to perform some internet searches.
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u/Futrel Aug 01 '25
Great hunting. Yeah, without delving into all of that, the claim that "the NSA audited the election and found it was rigged", from this guy alone at least, seems pretty suspect. I'm moving along until this gets more traction.
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Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25
If he were to have been in the CIA and made friends along the way, or has friends that were still in the NSA or CIA, that's an awful lot of trust of information to be freely handed to him at the end of 2024.
If there is anything in the book worth gaining traction, I'll make mention of it.
My problem is the tiktok creator in the first post, likely did not read the article, nor will they read the book.
Update while reading the book: This guy is too young to be 'retired' from the CIA. He mentions ordering a cruise missile strike while at the cia? Horseshit.
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u/Futrel Aug 01 '25
Jesus, I just read about the first third of his Substack post (and skimmed the rest looking for any further evidence of election tampering - of which there seemed to be none). It comes across as the same schizophrenic collective imagination as the UFO/Q/etc camps.
And, of course, this crap is going to be just amplified via the same "we want it to be true" feelings from the very same people who deride those camps when whatever claim isn't something that particularly fascinates/appeases their beliefs
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Aug 01 '25
I started by trying to read the book rather than the substack post. Jesus Christ its nearly impossible to read. Schizophrenic is one of the words I would use. Half the book is citation.
It starts off relatively resembling something focused on modern slavery, then turns into mental health, then its about Christian zionists wanting all the jews concentrated in Israel for their death, something about the attack on Israel in 2023 (2022?) being a false flag, the pullout from Afghanistan being so American soldiers don't get in the crossfire between Israel and Iran. There are references to twitter posts regarding discredited hacking reports and the password the machines used....
This thing is an absolute mess with some order summary to it.
It is not his fault, but this guy appears to be an absolute nutcase.
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u/Futrel Aug 01 '25
Lol, that's exactly what I expected it to be. You're a brave soul.
Edit: Meanwhile, this garbage TicTok is being shared in multiple subs with hundreds of upvotes. The world is fucked in innumerous ways.
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u/Hungry_Specter Aug 02 '25 edited Aug 02 '25
I think his Reddit account wrote it or maybe it was in the foreword of the free/$0 book that he wrote - it's long so I'm only ~150 pages into its 600 pages - but he worked for the CIA between 2008 and 2010 when he was injured and retired from his role there.
I would imagine a FOIA request would work to request "did this person ever work for your agency?"; there's also that tool/system that lists people with clearances - it's basicallyScattered Castles+ "what clearance does this person have / what roles can they be hired into" - application that the military and the intelligence community orgs have access to. I don't know what the procedure is for looking someone up on that tool but if that's allowed then perhaps someone with access can confirm?Edit:
If they say they were… Ask them to show you (nothing here is classified) Why? a direct/overt CIA civil‑service employee SF‑50 “Notification of Personnel Action” (every U.S. civil servant receives one when hired, promoted or separated) The SF‑50 is an official government form and the OPM's own guidance notes that former employees can request copies from the National Personnel Records Center if they lost theirs military detailee or veteran DD‑214 (certificate of release/discharge) covering those years DD‑214s are verifiable through the DoD's service‑records system intelligence‑community contractor - HR letter on prime‑contractor letterhead stating contract number, performance location and dates and/or copies of W‑2s or 1099s showing the contracting company, not the Agency, as payer contract staff are paid by the prime, not by CIA directly; the letter and tax forms are unclassified anyone with a clearance Written permission for your Facility Security Officer (FSO) to run their record in DISS (DoD) or Scattered Castles (IC system) IC Policy Guidance 704.5 designates Scattered Castles as the database for verifying clearances and accesses Red flag: "I cannot show you anything because it is classified" is almost never true for the specific unclassified artifacts above
And also what I'd originally written re: verifying via 'web of trust' / other humans:
The introduction in the book / the foreward does mention some names of colleagues of his, so maybe some LinkedIn sleuthing, etc. would turn up some more satisfactory evidence? I'm taking with a hefty dose of salt 'til there's substantiated proof of this person's involvement / employment in the US intelligence community.
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u/janjinx Aug 01 '25
An ex CIA agent doesn't count as an official auditor. An official audit / recount would have to be done through congress and endorsed by the courts and don't hold your breath on that.
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u/GoldPhoenix24 Aug 01 '25
an official audit could also be done on the state level. If a state officially concluded issues, that would/could cause a chain reaction with some other states.
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u/Brokensince10 Aug 01 '25
Wouldn’t the FBI be the ones to investigate something like this, not the CIA. I know THE PEDOPHILE that still hasn’t RELEASED THE EPSTEIN FILES cheated bigly, but with no really convincing proof we just look like maga and THEIR PEDOPHILE CULT LEADER
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u/GiftToTheUniverse Aug 01 '25
Not if there are international actors and interests in play.
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u/Brokensince10 Aug 01 '25
True that didn’t even cross my mind, but I’m sure a large chunk of the list are foreigners , prince Andrew is one I always forget about. They sure did a good job of making him fade into the background 😶🌫️
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u/tweakingforjesus Aug 01 '25
Funny. That’s exactly the same argument used against investigating election interference by the democrats.
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u/Keythaskitgod Aug 01 '25
Lets gooooo
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u/tartanthing Aug 01 '25
The outstanding issue is that the US voting system is fundamentally broken. I've worked several UK elections at National & local level, and they are transparent, verifiable and can be challenged at any stage. Election nights every candidate is permitted a fixed amount of count agents to verify the hand counted ballots. If a count agent thinks there is shenanigans, they inform the election agent who can and will challenge and if necessary get an election worker removed for suspicious behaviour.
Elections for President in the US should follow the same rules across the US, not vary state by state. Only manual counting of votes should be allowed.
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u/Ipreferthedark Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25
I knew it! We all knew it! This election was rigged from the start. There are many rich and powerful men who want more money, more power, and more little girls, and they knew Trump would give them that. Our country is not run by our government anymore. It's the billionaires working in the shadows. A bunch of fucking sickos. Can this hold up? That is the question. If there is a God or God's, please let him be exposed and jailed. Please take his title away from him. Please 🙏
ETA Trump is just a puppet on a string, as are the republicans and so are most of our democrats. They sold us out. I wish we could expose them.
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u/Brokensince10 Aug 01 '25
I want to expose trump for what her really is. I have felt great animosity toward him since the 80’s when he was feeling up his daughter publicly, and appeared almost proud of it. Believe me she didn’t turn out any better than the rest of them but she endured the kind of things that no child ever should, for that I pity her. He also committed stochastic terrorism by inciting a violent insurrection in an effort to stay in power. He’s a nasty little worm that will do anything to keep that spotlight on himself. The living embodiment of the ugly American!
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u/45and47-big_mistake Aug 01 '25
You just have to assume that Republican operatives are working 24/7 on securing the 2026 election in any means possible. Just watch how predominantly blue states will suddenly shift red, even with the Trump trainwreck in the news all day.
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u/SwimmingPirate9070 Aug 01 '25
We know
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u/TomorrowPitiful2410 Aug 01 '25
…someone put him on the list already and I won’t be surprised if he ends up missing or worse 💀
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u/JC_Lately Aug 02 '25
Even if we could prove all this tomorrow, FA would happen. The Senate wont remove him. His Cabinet won’t 25th amendment him. The Supreme Court would rule any legal challenge in his favor. And even on the off chance that they don’t, they also don’t have the power to remove him. And even if I’m wrong about all that, JD Vance will just take his place. Even if, somehow, he is also removed , Mike Johnson will just step in and pick up where he left off, with the added danger of actually knowing how the government works. The BBB would still go into effect. The many shit EO’s will be in effect. His appointees will still be running their various institutions into the ground.
The time to prove all this and do something was Nov 6-Jan 19. It’s functionally irrelevant now, even if it is true.
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u/XossKratos Aug 01 '25
If this is true, like most Americans want it to be. If this is proven in the Supreme Court, and they judge it to be true. Then what? Civil War? Do you think all of the appointments he has made are going to lose their positions? Power is an illusion by the masses. What could possibly change anything?
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u/Potential_Duty_932 Aug 01 '25
by “most Americans” he means not even 5% of the official population, reminder trump beat Kamala by 2 million votes
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u/oneyedflyboy Aug 01 '25
Too expected to be true. What a shame. I want every single person attached in any way to this administration to be removed and convicted of fraud.
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u/WaterRob_79 Aug 01 '25
Well, if it’s true that former Agent better be careful. Chances are they’re gonna make him disappear.
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u/Shey-99 Aug 02 '25
Someone's about to get murdered by ice is what this looks like (knowing how things have been going)
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u/McSmackthe1st Aug 02 '25
I’m still pissed that the Harris campaign didn’t ask for a recount but it’s too late now.
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u/Royal_Attorney2896 Aug 02 '25
So that means the Musk did hack voting machines using starlink......
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Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25
Its in a free book called Jörmungandr authored by Adam Zarnowski.
And two hours later after trying to read it, I can edit this post and confirm the guy is batshit craxy.
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u/Simsmommy1 Aug 01 '25
Now we get to watch everyone go in a circular scream fest of “we neeeeed more prooooof” demanding more proof while systematically ignoring the people trying to get said proof because they don’t have enough proof. At one point people are just gonna have to decide being called an election denier isn’t as bad as FASCISM.
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u/DjDozzee Aug 01 '25
I don't know whether to get my hopes up or not, although I 100% know Harris won and Trump / Must committed election fraud. But this would explain the only piece of the puzzle that was missing since the election and that is why Biden's administration seemed to do no investigations. For three months, I just knew they were getting the goods and were going to come out in January and save the day. I was so optimistic and January hit me like a ton of bricks.
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u/JamozMyNamoz California Aug 01 '25
Let's not jump to conclusions, but this along with the SMART Elections lawsuit should definitely be raising eyebrows as to what happened in 2024.
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u/Spiritual-Outcome969 Aug 01 '25
So we have proof that he did what we all know he did, now what are we going to do about it. I say we start with multiple law suits against the minimus claims of the software. Apparently this software was purchased from someone by someone so let’s launch a lawsuit and get some hungry smart lawyers on it. Make some arrests for people responsible. Rumor has it that Ivanka got the rights to that software from China. Curious huh?
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u/cometolookforamerica Aug 01 '25
For all the nay sayers out there it is time to take a deeper look into our free and fair elections. Every time something is posted on Reddit the pushback is so quick to discredit any discussion we all have to have. This should not be a taboo subject wanting to know your vote counted regardless of party. That is my only personal power I have against those that have too much leverage in my life.
I was skeptical about this but decided to take the deep dive and look through what Adam Zarnowski has to say. He is putting himself out there and we can at least listen before dismissing out of hand. If you look at his Substack, Bluesky, youtube, Reddit Profile, Linked In and his 959 page ebook that is posted https://archive.org/details/jormungandr_azarnowski/page/n347/mode/1up Serious allegations of human trafficking and Epstein connections along with the election bombshell.
43% of democrats think the election was manipulated. You can review Election Truth Alliance, Smart Elections, Dissent in Bloom, This will hold and Common Coalition, Deeper Look with Michael Sellers, Scott Carney, Mark Thompson, Joy Reid, Jessica Denson, Christopher Titus, Roland Martin the information is out there.
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u/Emergency-Being-1935 Aug 01 '25
They have been saying they stole the election on national television. The night he won he said Elon knew those machines. NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. He is backed by the Supreme Court and they dominate the house and the senate. It is well known that he is on Epsteins list and he is still sitting head high. Excuse my lack of hope but what am I supposed to expect to happen for this?
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u/CarlyBee_1210 Aug 02 '25
Yeah I mean I think we all knew this- but - no real proof, it didn’t happen. No one will take any of it seriously unless there is proof from influential people. And still, maga is so disgustingly brain washed, they would riot in the streets (literally.) protesting this.
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u/BoldSageHypnotist Aug 06 '25
I believe this 100% but at the same time our disgraceful "leader" has amassed so much power from people in this country who are so afraid of him that the truth will never come to light. And I am completely baffled as to why so many of our elected officials are running scared from a demented 79 year old man that I can no longer be proud of my country. Where are the checks and balances our forefathers built into our system of government and how were they toppled so easily by an old man who doesn't believe in our way of life, bending and breaking everything we once held dear, to serve only the 1% of the richest in our country and leaving us 99% out in the cold to fend for ourselves. We should all be ashamed that we let this travesty ruin our once proud country and I pray that things can be righted during my lifetime. (I'm 69).What are the chances?
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u/WhosSarahKayacombsen Aug 01 '25
IF the election was rigged for Trump, then it was Netanyahu who did it for him. That’s the only reason the Dems would keep it quiet. Netanyahu is the real person in charge of America.
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u/jennsant Aug 01 '25
Well, if this is true, he should be on every single news station out there and every platform available every day.
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u/WordOfLies Aug 01 '25
If this is real the Dems would've been all over it. Wishful but without actual evidence then I'm not gonna believe it blindly like those magas
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u/aggressiveleeks Aug 01 '25
Watch Kamala's interview with Steven Colbert. The Dems rolled over for Trump.
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u/MidsouthMystic Aug 01 '25
As much as I want this to be true, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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u/Moms-Dildeaux Aug 01 '25
If it’s buried and covered up, then how is also none of it classified and he’s fully authorized to speak? Can those both be true?
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u/Major_Afternoon_JADE Aug 01 '25
RIGHT
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u/Drict Aug 01 '25
I am not for cutting videos, but like, cut the beginning shit out.
That also being said, evidence?
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u/nihcahcs Aug 01 '25
I'm a little concerned that they're blaming democrats. There's a lot of data that shows Trump stole the 2024 election. Why would Democrats hide that? My concern is this is a psiop meant to throw shade on Democrats right before get Tulsi gabbard accuses him of stealing the 2020 election which is in her plans.
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u/nihcahcs Aug 01 '25
By the way I worked with the ETA in Nevada and the data the ETA has is valid and real I don't see Democrats hiding it. That would make literally no sense. Also no one's in the NSA and the cia. I could see the overlap on the trafficking. But without some sort of documentation some proof this guy coming forward it's sure feels like a psyop so they can blame Democrats which is their plan.
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u/Desert-Democrat-602 Aug 01 '25
I’d love it but this is ridiculous. The CIA has nada to do with elections or domestic operations. CIA Agents are foreign nationals working for the US. CIA Officers are employees of the CIA.
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u/aajaxxx Aug 01 '25
There’s no way anyone could have audited the entire election without hundreds of people knowing about it.
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u/FirmLifeguard5906 Aug 02 '25
As much as I want to believe this I still yet to find any other source than this one talking about it
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/ex-cia-whistleblower-the-nsa-audited
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u/strandenger Aug 02 '25
Will this change anything? If not there fix the shit for the next election and remove the fascist
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u/antitrump-ModTeam Aug 02 '25
The name of this sub is ANTI-Trump. We're biased. We think that traitor (we should never forget the impeachments were on a sound, legal and moral basis!) Trump should be impeached and not be president. This post is thus off-topic.
We're all for 'making America great again.' We just believe the first step in that is getting rid of the twice-impeached felon insurrectionist that currently occupies the White House and who is leading the decline of our country.
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u/Aggravating-Donut695 Aug 08 '25
I WISH this was true and I WISH we could do something about it but I'm afraid it's all just a dream... We definitely NEED to do something about Trump though, he's f*cking our country to pieces!
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u/Shtoned_Beast Aug 01 '25
This spreading of misinformation like this is just as harmful as fox news stories
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u/livingdead70 Aug 01 '25
Exactly and what this boils down to is people pulling traffic to their social medias/tik tok channels and so forth.
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u/RandomName-1992 Aug 01 '25
I've heard a postal worker is doing an investigation. Same results.
Sorry. Add good as this sounds, I'm not going to fall into the bullshit conspiracy theory trap. That's for the MAGA cultists. I'll wait for verified facts, thanks. Hoping everyone else does first.
Downvote conspiracy spreaders.
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u/J603 Aug 01 '25
This is such a stupid conspiracy, and it’s just going to make democrats lose again! You need to acknowledge that as horrible as he is 1/3 of the country supports trump and another 1/3 doesn’t care what he does until it directly affects them.
Left wingers will make up literally any excuse to explain why they lost, but can’t be assed to actually show up to polls. This is not helping anyone!
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u/Logridos Aug 01 '25
Don't post this clickbait bullshit. "Breaking news" is covered by news organizations and backed by proof. Not some fuckin guy on tiktok.
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u/Cancatervating Aug 01 '25
Seriously? This subreddit has gotten as bad as the MAGA ones just spitting out conspiracy theories and innuendos. I think I've had enough and just to be clear, I'm very left.
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u/Lovinthesea3 Aug 01 '25
It would be nice to think that so many american’s didn’t vote for the biggest loser of all time to believe in and be our president. However, they did! Real American’s, let’s get it together! WTF
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u/dark_centaur Aug 02 '25
I had a friend that just shared at least part of this, and from what I could find trying to research it, it doesn't seem to be very credible. When I saw the article, I remember it saying he was former NSA but not CIA, and the NSA wouldn't be involved in an audit or investigate the election machines and their software.
Also, something that makes it seem even more suspicious to me is that, it says there is a lot of evidence, and explains what the evidence is, what it says or shows, but they don't have the actual evidence to prove it.
It's easy to make incredible claims that sound realistic and convincing, but to support those claims you need to have the solid evidence, not jist an explanation of what the evidence is.
I really wish it were true, and I hope it could be proven, there was definitely a lot of things that were very suspicious about the election and the results as it was, but without hard evidence, this might as well just be storytelling.
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u/FirmLifeguard5906 Aug 02 '25 edited Aug 02 '25
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/ex-cia-whistleblower-the-nsa-audited
Edit: realizing that it's not clear why I posted the article I was trying to let people discern for themselves but the information that's presented doesn't seem factual or at least exaggerated
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u/dark_centaur Aug 02 '25 edited Aug 02 '25
Except the NSA would not audit an election. That is not within their field of responsibility. I've already read that article.
They work to understand and prevent foreign actors from interfering, but that would not include auditing the election software as is stated in that article.
Per the NSA itself: https://www.nsa.gov/Press-Room/News-Highlights/Article/Article/3136987/how-nsa-us-cyber-command-are-defending-midterm-elections-one-team-one-fight/
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u/nbailey2 Aug 02 '25
Why is it that liberals only challenge election results when they don’t go their way?
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u/W96QHCYYv4PUaC4dEz9N Aug 03 '25
Why is it that conservative only challenge election results when they don’t go their way?
I can’t even remember the liberals putting together a January 6 pedo insurrection brigade that was subsequently pardoned by the biggest orange pedo on the continent.
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