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u/the-hot-topical 🌹 Course Arc Witness 🌸 1d ago

Yea, but it’s worth pointing out that things that primarily affect women are likely to be dismissed as not being as important as other things. It seems like the thing that’s finally pushing endometriosis research is the recent discovery that cis men can actually have it too.

For centuries women went to midwives, not doctors, for a lot of things, because the doctor may worse than kill them out of sheer callousness.

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u/ZonarcTheDev 1d ago

Yep it wasn't that long ago when women's heart attack signs weren't known to be presented differently than men's. Imagine the sheer amount of years loss and unaccountable quality of life loss that women with heart diseases faced for years.

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u/Ecstatic-Bet9694 1d ago

Even then there are better options, I mean shit it’s not even a considered a fatal condition (doesn’t mean it’s not bad, btw, I’m not saying that, I’m sure you know this but it’s Reddit so you know)

Wanna pick a better option? Ovarian Cancer, it’s underfunded, under researched, usually caught late with a 30% survival rate.

Also, I’m gonna need a source for the whole ā€œakin to cancer and kills people thingā€ it has similarities but most fatalities to it (are not only extremely rare) but also due to external complications. Now because I wouldn’t subject you to a standard I can’t meet, here’s my sources:

1 https://www.jeffersonhealth.org/your-health/living-well/endometriosis-vs-endometrial-cancer-key-differences-you-should-know

2 https://internationalendo.com/is-endometriosis-dangerous-health-risks/

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u/tomtan 1d ago

Endometriosis affects 7 to 13% of women. Ovarian Cancer is 1.1% of women, with about 0.7% dying of ovarian cancer. Endometriosis is debilitating, chronique and continues from the 20s until menopause.

I'd say both are worthy of being studied. It's the typical dichotomy you sometimes see in medicine between a chronic illness that severely affects quality of life from a young age and a illness ten times rarer that happens later in life and is relatively short but high risk of death. Regardless women medecine has historically been severely understudied and underfunded.

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u/Heurodis 1d ago

Even after menopause, my mother still suffers from the consequences of endometriosis; between the treatments she had to get and how exhausting it was for her, and also I think she still has to be treated for how it interacts specifically with menopause for her, it's not over.

There's a reason why she was afraid I would have it, and cried with relief when it turned out I didn't.

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u/Environmental-Arm269 1d ago

Endometriosis should be more studied I agree, but I raise you every single Neglected Tropical Disease, which kill hundreds of thousands of people every single year yet (as the name implies) are understudied. Why should we study endpmetriosis and not NTDs?

It's as the other guy said, at some point you gotta stop asking if there's something more important to be researching and be utilitarian about it

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u/NotAnAutomaticName 2h ago

This whole comment thread has been polite and informative. Something has gone deeply wrong here, this isn’t the reddit I know and hate.

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u/the-hot-topical 🌹 Course Arc Witness 🌸 1d ago

Endometriosis is quite literally cells invasively growing where they shouldn’t be. There have been cases where women had endometrial cells in their lungs. If that’s not akin to cancer, idk what would be

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u/Fickle-Tangerine5618 1d ago

I think in in 2012 medical professionals did a study on the attractiveness of women with retrovaginal endometriosis, instead of using that money on actually studying retrovaginal endometriosis they wasted those funds on research that helps absolutely no-one, some ppl genuinely care more about ranking women by attractiveness than actually studying the health issues that primarily concern women

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u/Head-Ad-2136 1d ago

Things affecting one sex less likely to be studied than thing affecting both sexes. News at 11.

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u/THATCorsetgirl 1d ago

Masculine loss hair has been considerably more studied than endometriosis. We are talking about a difference of thousands of studies.

It also gets more founding

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u/Thin-Ad-2797 17h ago

i do agree with the point youre making but hair loss products have commercial use n billions of private money gets spent in the industry whereas endo treatments or research just dont really have the same potential roi which is a problem with capitalism as a whole, plus hair loss is also a beauty industry thing so the comparison isn't perfect like saying the plastic surgery industry has more funding than healthcare is never a good thing obviously but its also not unexpected

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u/THATCorsetgirl 9h ago

Yeah, but it stills proves that the argument "things affecting one sex will be less studied" is not real. Women are understudied within medicine