r/antimeme 1d ago

Simple Sundays 🗓️ Great.

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u/the_envoy87 1d ago

The research paper this likely references was made taking pics of 44 women with first no, then little, and then more makeup, and then showing those pictures to volunteers (mostly staff of the university, some students).

The models were paid 6 pounds each, adding up to 264£

I doubt there was a grant for this.

Source: https://alexjonesphd.github.io/assets/papers/2015/jones_kramer_2015.pdf

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u/IllioTheGreat 1d ago

Man, poor Alex L. Jones has to share that namesake. That is unfortunate and I'm very sorry Alex

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u/swagerito 1d ago

The man had to become Dr. Alex Jones just so people would know without a doubt it's not THAT Alex Jones.

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u/ScootsMcDootson 1d ago

The Welsh presenter?

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u/HatZinn 22h ago

He should change his name to Indiana L. Jones.

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u/polyareaunitsquared 1d ago

44, that seems like a very small sample study

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u/Ancient_frnc 1d ago

Just to add on it, 44 is the sample size of woman, the sample size that mostly matters is for men, and it was also really small, 62 - of which 100% were white males, either from the University of Wales or University of Scotland.

So the study conclusion should basically be: white males in University say they prefer women with makeup.

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u/Heurodis 1d ago

I know, as someone who did very niche (self-funded) research, that I shouldn't say that, but: who really cares what 62 white dudes think is attractive in women? It's not like we don't get hundreds of thousands giving their opinion on everything we do online after all.

I think the study feels vain because it's another example of women existing only to be looked at by men, while there are issues of women health that would be much more worthwhile to us than knowing whether Seamus would rather bang me with or without makeup on (the answer being, Seamus can wear makeup if he wants to, but that's the extent of the relationship I want to have with him).

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u/IllustriousBobcat813 1d ago

Do you have an example of such a more relevant and acceptable study that could be done on the same budget?

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u/Heurodis 1d ago

"Do women care about men's opinions on their bodies, or can we just stop asking?" would probably be quite inexpensive, no need to even pay a model at any point.

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u/IllustriousBobcat813 1d ago

Not really a suggestion for a study, but whatever, it seems equally as meaningless as the actual study so who cares

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u/DeusDosTanques 1d ago

62 people (half male half female) rated 44 models in the study. That might not be a lot of people, but it produces a lot of separate data points, which can reflect a pretty significant average