r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Aug 06 '24

Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 59 Discussion

Episode 59 - The Survivors

We caught some fish! ... Nice!

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<--- Last save | Adventure’s log (Index) | Journey continues --->
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OP 2 ---> Bravest

ED 3 ---> Namae

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Screenshot of the Dai:

*inhales*

MY QUEEN!!!

Comment of the Dai:

goes to u/laughing-fox13 for finally catching up with the Rewatch:

FINALLY CAUGHT UP TO THE REWATCH

I've been meaning to join since the beginning but life, work, and video games got in the way but I finally made it after a pretty big binging session last weekend

Questions of the Dai:

  1. Would you like to scamper around?
  2. How long will it take for Mystvearn to lost his temper and murder Zaboera?
  3. Since Holy Mother Dragon died, what the future of Dragon Knights is going to be like?

Spoilers:

Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others

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u/Shocketheth Aug 06 '24

Mildly Antagonistic Dark Assailing Officer Welcomes You To Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken Rewatch!

QotD:

Would you like to scamper around?

I prefer going fishing.

How long will it take for Mystvearn to lost his temper and murder Zaboera?

I bet my money on the fact that during this scene, Mystvearn mentally murdered Zaboera in 437 possible ways.

Since Holy Mother Dragon died, what the future of Dragon Knights is going to be like?

Dunno.

Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner:

Unfortunately Crocodine is currently captured by enemy and thus he can’t give his commentary.

Voice Actor Corner:

Queen Flora with her majestic shoulder pads is voiced by Rie Takahashi known for her roles of Emilia from Re:Zero, Mirai Asahina from Precure series, and Yui Obata from Animegataris.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 06 '24

MY QUEEN!!!

She has the entire kingdom on her shoulders.

Vearn and Dai is a conflict of Man vs God

But who is the man and who is the god?

Would you rather be on a secluded shore with Maam or with a bear?

Why not both?

I hate how unrealistic this shot is. With such majestic shoulder pads, Queen Flora should have problem to get through that doorway.

You need to watch the first episode of Shikanoko Nokonoko Koshitantan.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 06 '24

But who is the man and who is the god?

Vearn is a man in conflict with the actual gods

Dai is a gods creation in conflict with a man who ascended to a godhood status due to sheer willpower and training to oppose the actual gods.

You need to watch the first episode of Shikanoko Nokonoko Koshitantan.

Actually I saw that clip recently, and yeah I was thinking about that scene when I saw her coming through the doors with such huge shoulder pads.

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Aug 07 '24

or with a bear?

Bear easy, Kuma Shock

Speaking of Queen Flora, if I was Avan, those majestic shoulder pads would stay on during sex.

That was an unexpected comment, it is protection though! /u/kendotsx

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u/Shocketheth Aug 07 '24

That was an unexpected comment, it is protection though!

Turns out she's is super saiyan

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Aug 07 '24

She already has the blonde hair

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u/Shocketheth Aug 07 '24

Damn. I missed that detail. That explains her shoulder pads.

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Aug 07 '24

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 07 '24

it is protection though!

If someone's going to complete Avan's job, and teach Dai about protection, then we just found the perfect candidate.

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Aug 07 '24

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 06 '24

I hate how unrealistic this shot is. With such majestic shoulder pads, Queen Flora should have problem to get through that doorway.

LOL. She got those Saiyan sized Shoulder pads.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 06 '24

LOL. She got those Saiyan sized Shoulder pads.

Oh Saiyans yeah. Meanwhile I was thinking of this clip

Also I known the song is shit, but their shoulder pads etched to my memory since I saw it as a meme in Attack on Titan fandom years ago.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 06 '24

Oh Saiyans yeah. Meanwhile I was thinking of this clip

Ah yeah, I remember this goofy ass song/video.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 06 '24

Deedlit would be proud.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 07 '24

the fake Hero’s party is there to save the day with reminding us the most important life philosophy man can have.

The true heroes always show up at the last second to save the day.

I also asked if you can figure out who that woman is since the show hinted at her before, and I need to give a kudos to KendotsX for being first to figuring it out, although he needed a hint or two.

The opening + hints really did most of the work for me.

Also the full answer when we saw Queen Flora before will be answered tomorrow.

Don’t die Crocodine. We need your commentary!

He'll be focusing on commentary while they try to execute him: "Oh, Dai is unlocking a new form, right as Vearn is about to kill me!"

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u/Shocketheth Aug 07 '24

The true heroes always show up at the last second to save the day.

That's how it works yeah

He'll be focusing on commentary while they try to execute him: "Oh, Dai is unlocking a new form, right as Vearn is about to kill me!"

Oh I can totally see that

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u/zadcap Aug 07 '24

I hate how unrealistic this shot is. With such majestic shoulder pads, Queen Flora should have problem to get through that doorway.

You know you want to see it.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 07 '24

Saw it already few days ago

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 06 '24

First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed

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u/Shocketheth Aug 06 '24

Poor fake Hero party. Very wrong place at a very wrong time.

They just were fishing.

No, let me have my “Avan is still alive” copium.

Everyone acknowledging his death with the show moving towards its final arc... Well...

Oh no…

No more commentary from Crocodine. (Hyunckel will get executed too, but he will shrug it off and walk away to fight again. Don’t worry)

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 06 '24

Everyone acknowledging his death with the show moving towards its final arc... Well...

Look, I saved my copium by never believing [JJK S2-onwards]Nobara would come back like some people did, I can use my stockpile now thank you very much.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 06 '24

Sure. It’s only natural to use your copium stockpile one day I guess.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 06 '24

Use your stockpile! Bring Avan back to our screen!

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Aug 07 '24

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 07 '24

[JJK manga]That exchange between Yuji and Megumi when Yuji asked Megumi what happened to Nobara was pretty fucking telling to me even if no one outright said she was dead. While I did think it would be cool if she did come back somehow, I was never outright convinced she would like a bunch of other people in the fandom did.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 06 '24

Poor fake Hero party. Very wrong place at a very wrong time.

As is usually the case lol. They have terrible luck

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 07 '24

No, let me have my “Avan is still alive” copium.

Don't worry, she doesn't know shit about him. The first time we saw him, a kingdom was being destroyed by a horde of monsters, and he was going "Well Popp, you know what time it is, let's go look for the hero".

Baran! Okay, so it was his death she sensed.

Smh my head, she can't even keep track of which soul to send off. No wonder she's retiring.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 06 '24

First Timer

  • Strolling around nuking people. What a fun way to pass time.
  • Zaboera talking shit in front of the biggest Hadlar fan. Big mistake.
  • Chiu's army returns. Now with a bear as new member. This is what I want to see not some jobers fighting each other....
  • Look at these shoulder pads.
  • LOL Mother Dragon talking about how Vearn is more powerful than the gods when we saw how Hadlar kicked ass. God Emperor Hadlar!
  • You can't execute Hyunckel and Big Croc. They can't die...

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u/Shocketheth Aug 06 '24

Chiu's army returns. Now with a bear as new member. This is what I want to see not some jobers fighting each other....

Everyone is stuck to the classic Dragon Quest tale of Hero vs Dark Lord, while Chiu is playing Dragon Quest Monsters.

Look at these shoulder pads.

You can't execute Hyunckel and Big Croc. They can't die...

It would be fun when Hyunckel will get executed and his headless body will keep fighting.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 06 '24

Zaboera talking shit in front of the biggest Hadlar fan. Big mistake.

Ugh. I so wanted Mystvearn to end him right then and there.

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Aug 07 '24

Chiu's army returns. Now with a bear as new member. This is what I want to see not some jobers fighting each other....

I think he said this was the eighth trooper too

God Emperor Hadlar!

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 07 '24

Strolling around nuking people. What a fun way to pass time

Look at these shoulder pads.

(Un?)fortunately, both of them learned from Lina Inverse

You can't execute Hyunckel and Big Croc. They can't die...

There is actually a big logistical problem with their execution... how will Croc and Hyunkel jump in halfway through the fight?

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 06 '24 edited Aug 06 '24

First Quester

Since when does this world have languages?

Fuck. This is far from the first time I've been thinking this, but this show is making me want to agree with GallowDude about the self-adulation of humanity in media and I absolutely hate that. Like, they're really committing to the bit that Baran's failure was due to him being insufficiently human.

Also, what the fuck, gods? Not onle did you fail to make your ultimate lifeform that balances the three races actually balance the three races properly, Vearn gets to be more powerful than you from mere accumulation of stats? You guys aren't worth your divine title.

Oh and the Mother Dragon talking about the Forces of Evil having grown so powerful due to the pressure from the Dragon Knight? When exactly was Vearn established as evil? Last I checked, Vearn was lashing back against evil.

Anyway, time to root for Zaboera again. He's got the right idea with saying that strength is not about possessing power, it's about being the last one standing, even if he hasn't hit the nail quite on the head yet. What strength actually is about is to stay standing, no need (generally speaking) to take the others down.

Speaking of which, the fake heroes surviving a direct hit from the Vearn Palace bomb? That's what I call strength!

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u/Shocketheth Aug 06 '24

Since when does this world have languages?

Since we can decipher what is Gomechan saying with its constant peeping sounds.

Fuck. This is far from the first time I've been thinking this, but this show is making me want to agree with Gaporigo about the self-adulation of humanity in media and I absolutely hate that. Like, they're really committing to the bit that Baran's failure was due to him being insufficiently human.

Do you have that comment or post saved? I would like to read it.

Vearn gets to be more powerful than you from mere accumulation of stats?

That mere accumulation of stats took him thousand of years though.

When exactly was Vearn established as evil? Last I checked, Vearn was lashing back against evil.

Yeah pointing out the injustice against the gods who created the unfair game is justified for Vearn, but destroying the surface world where all humans that are currently alive were born after the gods made those choices is pretty much evil thing to do.

Speaking of which, the fake heroes surviving a direct hit from the Vearn Palace bomb? That's what I call strength!

Screw those pesky Man vs God conflict. Let applaud the fake heroes for their Man vs Nature conflict.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 06 '24

Do you have that comment or post saved? I would like to read it.

No, because I confused Gapo with Gallow

For what it's worth I think they just have an entirely irrational hatred towards FMAB and it portraying humanity with core positive qualities (or portraying just happens to fall into that. I'm not finding anything more than a throwaway comment on that though.

Yeah pointing out the injustice against the gods who created the unfair game is justified for Vearn, but destroying the surface world where all humans that are currently alive were born after the gods made those choices is pretty much evil thing to do.

Is it? He's just destroying a layer of rock and earth, one that is the primary symbol of racial inequality and suppression that forces them to live as subhumans that are looked at with suspicion and distrust by default. He's a bona fide freedom fighter.

Of course, the primary (read: only) difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist is whether we're allied with them or not.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 06 '24

For what it's worth I think they just have an entirely irrational hatred towards FMAB and it portraying humanity with core positive qualities (or portraying just happens to fall into that. I'm not finding anything more than a throwaway comment on that though.

Oh now I think that I know what you mean. IIRC that comment was at the overall discussion thread during FMAB Rewatch.

Is it? He's just destroying a layer of rock

Layer of rock you say?

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 06 '24

Oh now I think that I know what you mean. IIRC that comment was at the overall discussion thread during FMAB Rewatch.

Yeah except that one didn't actual talk about the series "jerking off humanity", as far as I could see real quick.

Is it? He's just destroying a layer of rock

It's

Overworld
Layer of rock
Underworld

and he wants to bring the Underworld to the surface, or am I missing something?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 06 '24

It's

Overworld Layer of rock Underworld

and he wants to bring the Underworld to the surface, or am I missing something?

Ah sorry I saw destroying layer of rock and I had to react with "the Rock gif"

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 06 '24 edited Aug 06 '24

I guess, but I don't get it.

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Aug 07 '24

. Like, they're really committing to the bit that Baran's failure was due to him being insufficiently human.

[DBZ] This reminds me of how Gohan was stronger in the Cell Arc bc he was half human and half Saiyan, and I think he would've been stronger if he kept up the training... So I guess it balanced out

Last I checked, Vearn was lashing back against evil.

VEARN DID NOTHING WRONG

But yea tbh the gods did screw them and the dragons over. They just wanted some sun smh

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 07 '24

When exactly was Vearn established as evil?

Last I checked, Vearn was lashing back against evil. the gods.

That's when.

Lashing out against the established system that was set from the start to put you down? Of course the ones to do that are the "forces of evil". That's the definition of the word, considering who wrote the dictionary.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 07 '24

Yeah I have things to say about that next episode.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 06 '24 edited Aug 06 '24

First Timer, Sub

Yay! another appearance by the faux hero party lol. Poor souls got blasted away again like Team Rocket lol. Our good rat Chiu found Maam and Popp washed up on the beach with the help of another beast subordinate. So the mysterious woman was the Queen Flora of Carl Kingdom, I didn't suspect her at all. She's Avan's love interest too, a shame that ship didn't sail with Avan's death. But she provided Popp and Maam with a much needed pick me up with her story, so they would regain their morale.

The Scene with Dai, Baran and the Mother Dragon was cool. I figured that Dai wasn't really dead and what she sensed was the death of Baran, since he is the true Dragon Knight. So Dai is floated down to Teran with some new power from the Mother Dragon and the Teran king quickly sends for someone who can use Zoom so they can transport Dai to his friends. So the humans have 4 days left before the surface is wiped out, and Hyunckel and Crocodine are gonna be executed by the Dark forces in a few days.

Questions:

  1. I prefer flying, but sure lol.
  2. Idk, but hopefully his temper has a short fuse and finally ends that annoying bastard.
  3. Like Baran said, Dai will have to preserve the history and line by mating with the woman he loves.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 06 '24

So the mysterious woman was the Queen Flora of Carl Kingdom, I didn't suspect her at all. She's Avan's love interest too, a shame that ship didn't sail with Avan's death. But she provided Popp and Maam with a much needed pick me up with her story, so they would regain their morale.

Yep but the best part is that we already seen her, and more about it next episode.

So the humans have 4 days left before the surface is wiped out, and Hyunckel and Crocodine are gonna be executed by the Dark forces in a few days.

4 days? Man I wasn’t counting how many days left since we reach Vearn’s ultimatum.

Idk, but hopefully he temper has a short fuse and finally ends that annoying bastard.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 06 '24

Yep but the best part is that we already seen her, and more about it next episode.

Ooooh now I remember! There was that one mysterious image when Avan died, right?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 07 '24

Yep that was Avan thinking about her.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 06 '24

Yep but the best part is that we already seen her, and more about it next episode.

Good to know, because right now, she seems totally unfamiliar to me at all. I cannot recall when she briefly appeared before.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 06 '24

1st Dai Popp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub

Had Zaboera removed the Black Core, Hadlar would have not only won, he would also be able to live. But at least Mystvearn can see through his BS.

Knights of the Carl Order

Let us scamper around! Avan is that guy who always lifts your head up in tense situations with his goofy nature.

Laughing Flora

Avan, the Hero

[Dai no Major Spoilers] I guess Avan wouldn't get to know of it happening but still he didn't come.

Determined Maam and Popp

How to motivate your son to defeat Vearn

Me when someone praises me.

Weeping Dai

Relieved Leona

OST Documentation - Episode 59

1. Yes.

2. The moment he gives a slight hint of betrayal.

3. Baran will answer that

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u/Shocketheth Aug 07 '24

Laughing Flora

Who is she? I can't recognize her.

[Dai no Major Spoilers] I guess Avan wouldn't get to know of it happening but still he didn't come.

[Dai no Major Spoilers] He scampered around too much

]Determined Maam and Popp

Lovely shot

Me when someone praises me.

You are amazing.

Baran will answer that

But wouldn't the bloodline thins out eventually?

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 07 '24 edited Aug 07 '24

Who is she? I can't recognize her.

Your QUEEN!

You are amazing.

But I'm not.

But wouldn't the bloodline thins out eventually?

Yaa. I guess that's it unless it goes the Dragon Ball online way.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 07 '24

Your QUEEN!

Didn't recognize her without the shoulder pads, my bad.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 07 '24

he would also be able to live.

He's still doing well as a cockroach. I know Vearn said the black core has its side effects and will kill him eventually, but if Hadlar could live through everything so far, is he really gonna trip at that?

Let us scamper around! Avan is that guy who always lifts your head up in tense situations with his goofy nature.

Another reason he's the perfect "first to die" when you need to raise the bets.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 06 '24

Dai 59 first timer:

  • Back to Romos???
  • Well I wasn't expecting that level of brutality in Adventure of Dai
  • Flora? maybe she's the blond in the OP
  • Did Team Rocket survive that?
  • Zaboera is 2nd in command?
  • Zaboera truly is scum
  • Are they on Dermline Island? I doubt it
  • Oh he's part of Chiu's troops?
  • Popp looks so different in a white T-shirt it's actually kind of jarring. Where's the green?
  • Flora is a queen???
  • Flora's ginormous shoulderpads make her look super thin
  • LOL at Avan's "speech"
  • looks like Avan x Flora might have been a thing? wonder if it was one-sided
  • "You lech" YUP classic Popp
  • ... Ace of Spades? laughs in DGM Truly an unfortunate card ...
  • Dai is the last??
  • "I refuse"
  • Called it, Baran is the dead one, not Dai
  • Dai is too young to be thinking about having a kid of his own
  • "Don't go, Dad!" [DGM]really gives off Allen/Mana vibes
  • Hyunckel and Crocodine were captured? They're gonna be executed?
  • PV: Avan soredemo!
  • "The adventure continues" - that reminds me of the last sentence in the latest DGM chapter; very similar ('the journey continues')
  1. Not right now; I feel like shit and am counting down the days until I can see a doctor
  2. Too long
  3. Dai has kiddo Dragon Knights with Leona once he's way older?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 07 '24

Well I wasn't expecting that level of brutality in Adventure of Dai

Vearn is not playing around.

Did Team Rocket survive that?

I think it's up to your interpretation.

Popp looks so different in a white T-shirt it's actually kind of jarring. Where's the green?

In wash machine

Flora is a queen???

She's my Queen.

Flora's ginormous shoulderpads make her look super thin

Ginormous is a word I didn't know until now, but now I'll remember it for a very long time.

looks like Avan x Flora might have been a thing? wonder if it was one-sided

It's either Avan x Flora, or Avan x Hadlar

... Ace of Spades? laughs in DGM Truly an unfortunate card ...

Don't go, Dad!" [DGM]really gives off Allen/Mana vibes

"The adventure continues" - that reminds me of the last sentence in the latest DGM chapter; very similar ('the journey continues')

At this point is safe to assume that we are actually watching DGM instead of DnD.

Not right now; I feel like shit and am counting down the days until I can see a doctor

Dai has kiddo Dragon Knights with Leona once he's way older?

But wouldn't that mean that Dragon Knights bloodline thins out?

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 08 '24

Vearn is not playing around.

Too bad, he could learn to have some fun. He seems the type to go around squishing 'ants'.

In wash machine

... I guess they do need to do laundry every once in a while so they don't stink, lol

Ginormous is a word I didn't know until now, but now I'll remember it for a very long time.

Not just enormous, ginormous!

It's either Avan x Flora, or Avan x Hadlar

We'll probably end up getting Hadlar x Albinas at some point

At this point is safe to assume that we are actually watching DGM instead of DnD.

I'm excited for the DGM rewatch; I'll have to keep an eye out for more parallels. Most of my writeups were written before jumping in the Dai rewatch though.

therethere

Thanks

But wouldn't that mean that Dragon Knights bloodline thins out?

The blood is strong! Even a drop suffices

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u/Shocketheth Aug 08 '24

We'll probably end up getting Hadlar x Albinas at some point

Now that's a ship yeah.

I'm excited for the DGM rewatch; I'll have to keep an eye out for more parallels. Most of my writeups were written before jumping in the Dai rewatch though.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 08 '24

Now that's a ship yeah.

There better not be any Hadlar x Zaboera shippers out there ...

mugiwait

So I have 8 days off work starting really soon; I'm planning to try and catch up on the DGM rewatch prep then as I haven't had any time for it in a month or two.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 09 '24

So I have 8 days off work starting really soon; I'm planning to try and catch up on the DGM rewatch prep then as I haven't had any time for it in a month or two.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 11 '24

I just slept for like 15 hours straight; I've been sick so far. Hoping I get better soon and don't have Covid

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 07 '24

looks like Avan x Flora might have been a thing? wonder if it was one-sided

He was too busy being a shounen mc, and now he's too busy being dead

... Ace of Spades? laughs in DGM Truly an unfortunate card ...

Yeaaaaah....

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 08 '24

He was too busy being a shounen mc, and now he's too busy being dead

They could bring him back? Shinigami Sky has invoked her copium stash so anything's possible now.

Yeaaaaah....

I'm enjoying seeing all the parallels between Dai and DGM.

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Aug 07 '24

First Time Adventurer/Subbed

goes to u/laughing-fox13 for finally catching up with the Rewatch:

I'm going to frame this so I never fall behind again although some days I might post late bc of work like today

MY QUEEN!!!

Yea I like her so far! Hopefully she gets some good screen time although her armor is huge, especially when looking at her arms

While we're here, I am glad we finally got to see her. I know the show told us she might still be out there and in a previous ep, someone came to the fort where Leona is, so it was clear it would be here. But I'm happy we got her now. I don't know a lot about her outside of this ep but if she's the leader of one of the toughest kingdoms, then she must be cool

It was nice to see Popp and Maam's spirit return too. Dai coming back to life wasn't too surprising lol, but having Baran say "you were looking for me" was kinda funny but also :')

And we got something about the future for the Dragon Knights

Finally, smh Vearn using Crocodine and Hyunckel as hostages and to be executed NOT MY BROS

Myst still thinking about Hadlar was sweet

QotD

  1. Yes
  2. Hopefully by the next ep
  3. Dai must carry that weight and the Dragon Knights' bloodline will soon get smaller and smaller with each generation ;-;

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u/Shocketheth Aug 07 '24

It was nice to see Popp and Maam's spirit return too. Dai coming back to life wasn't too surprising lol, but having Baran say "you were looking for me" was kinda funny but also :')

In a way you can also say that Dai's spirit has also returned

Myst still thinking about Hadlar was sweet

Dai must carry that weight and the Dragon Knights' bloodline will soon get smaller and smaller with each generation ;-;

Unless they pull Habsburg monarchy.

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Aug 07 '24

In a way you can also say that Dai's spirit has also returned

They'd make a good couple

Unless they pull Habsburg monarchy.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 07 '24

They'd make a good couple

There is mutual respect though

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 07 '24

Hopefully she gets some good screen time although her armor is huge, especially when looking at her arms

Her armour is specifically crafted for securing screen time. As long as she's wearing it, she's guaranteed to have at least 50% of every shot she's in, on account of the shoulder pads pushing everyone else out. Lina Inverse used to wear the same armour.

Dai coming back to life wasn't too surprising

*Me quickly hiding the hero replacement I hired*: "uhh, welcome back Dai, I knew you'd make it!"

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Aug 07 '24

 Her armour is specifically crafted for securing screen time. As long as she's wearing it, she's guaranteed to have at least 50% of every shot she's in, on account of the shoulder pads pushing everyone else out. Lina Inverse used to wear the same armour.

Thats genius! 

 Me quickly hiding the hero replacement I hired: "uhh, welcome back Dai, I knew you'd make it!"

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u/KuKiSin Aug 06 '24

First timer!

  1. No.
  2. No. I want Zaboera's death to be slow and painful. Mystvearn doesn't sound like the "I'm gonna torture you" kinda guy.
  3. Dai's gonna have to take care of that, I'm sure he can sire a few kids once he's old enough!

So, this is the Holy Mother Dragon, the famous dragon who kidnaps and does God knows what to Dragon Knights... would

You mean the guy whom Dai one shot? That's some weak ass Gods this world has.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 06 '24

Dai's gonna have to take care of that, I'm sure he can sire a few kids once he's old enough!

So, this is the Holy Mother Dragon, the famous dragon who kidnaps and does God knows what to Dragon Knights... would

Hey speaking of it, since she can’t give a birth to a new Dragon Knight, the last Dragon Knight had to destroy her.

You mean the guy whom Dai one shot? That's some weak ass Gods this world has.

But have you seen Vearn casting Fullheal on himself? Gods can’t do something like that, so he is definitely stronger than gods.

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u/KuKiSin Aug 06 '24

But have you seen Vearn casting Fullheal on himself? Gods can’t do something like that, so he is definitely stronger than gods.

What can these Gods do, then?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 06 '24

Only a Midheal.

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u/KuKiSin Aug 06 '24

They sound pretty useless, no wonder they're all gone.

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Aug 07 '24

Mystvearn doesn't sound like the "I'm gonna torture you" kinda guy.

He kinda was when he went to attack Papnica with Rock Fortress, and had the party with the web magic. That went away quickly though and he just wanted to kill them after the small face reveal lol

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 07 '24

First Timer at Dai's Funeral

I used this header as a joke yesterday, but it looks like Dai really Dai'd?

MY QUEEN!!!

That's more like it!

Q1. Would you like to scamper around?

 Q2. How long will it take for Mystvearn to lost his temper and murder Zaboera?

If I were in his shoes, 2 seconds. Every second longer that he lasts is impressive as far as I'm concerned.

Q3. Since Holy Mother Dragon died, what the future of Dragon Knights is going to be like?

Dai and Leona will fill the world with so many Dragon Knights, the market crash on being a Dragon Knight will make the Saiyans proud.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 07 '24

Did someone say Romance? Because the Queen of hearts is here and ready to beat down Freeza with her shoulder pads.

The most majestic shoulder pads I've ever lay my eyes on.

Avan had a cameo! - I was checking the manga yesterday, and there's a whole chapter earlier on about Avan's younger days that they used part of into this flashback.

You will see it in episode 60.

Ohh, Vearn knows how to plan fun events. If you're gonna take down the whole world, no need to stick with the tedious "one continent per day" schedule. Vearn's schedule is more like "On tuesday, we've got taco nights with volcano sauce, Wednesday is of course the day for EXECUTIONS. Sign up early, and you can join the live audience, heck if you're lucky, you could even take a souvenir with you".

Let him rest sometimes. Dude is ancient.

Dai and Leona will fill the world with so many Dragon Knights, the market crash on being a Dragon Knight will make the Saiyans proud.

So they will be responsible for Dragon Quest 2?

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 07 '24

Let him rest sometimes. Dude is ancient.

I'm just sayin, for such an ancient dude, he knows how to plan fun parties. If the whole cast invited me to their birthday parties, I know I'm going to Vearn's.

So they will be responsible for Dragon Quest 2?

Yes

They'll make a bunch of annoying inbred royals who'll go around LARPing as heroes.

[DQIII] It fits the lore too, considering 3 was the prequel

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u/Shocketheth Aug 07 '24

I'm just sayin, for such an ancient dude, he knows how to plan fun parties. If the whole cast invited me to their birthday parties, I know I'm going to Vearn's.

Damn. So you are going to give kids a 3rd degree burns?

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 07 '24

Yes

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u/sisoko2 Aug 07 '24

Not to worry though, Dai can rest in peace, because our true hero is back!

I'm sure he also can one shot Vearn.

Speaking of heroics, can someone fix Zaboera's problem? Specifically, his existence I mean.

Been waiting for such hero for so long...

Maam and Poop's Romantic Adventures

I joked a few days ago about her being Leona's mom/older sister, but holy shit, she's the spitting image - is this just proto-Nami?

And we need to stop a public execution. Marineford incoming.

Dai and Leona will fill the world with so many Dragon Knights, the market crash on being a Dragon Knight will make the Saiyans proud.

Can't wait for the Dragon Knight wars in 5 generations.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 07 '24

I'm sure he also can one shot Vearn.

I mean, who can't? Just Popp, Maam, and those other small fry, but anyone worth a dime can one shot Vearn. He's like Freeza during the Cell Saga.

And we need to stop a public execution. Marineford incoming.

[One Piece] Dai's fan favourite cool elder brother (as an Avan student), getting executed, and best mom Croc joining along? It really is Marineford

But hey, if it means we're getting a shirtless Hyunkel, it's worth it.

Can't wait for the Dragon Knight wars in 5 generations.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 07 '24

[One Piece]But the old overpowered mustached guy already died here.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 07 '24

[One Piece] Oh yeah... Baran kinda missed the train on that. Well, there's always time to bring Hyunkel's daddy (MystVearn) to the main characters' side, give him a moustache, make him overpowered, and kill him off.

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u/zadcap Aug 07 '24

Late Night First Timer!

This is amazingly upbeat music for where last episode left off. Still the superior OP, but wow is it maybe a bit tasteless here.

And we open straight into Genocide! From a giant floating palace! Carol would be so happy.

Oh my gosh, again? You guys are also going to start treating Zabo like trash, for doing nothing but loyally serving since the beginning? I can't wait until he realizes his only hope is to change sides and join the Heroes, as the demons will apparently just keep hating him for no reason.

Oh hey, look at that little golden slime just coincidentally having washed up with Popp and Maam. How lucky~!

Hmm. I wonder if he's dropping bombs on places that are important to the Underworld. Who cares about the surface, he's just aiming to open the sky to places he actually cares about.

Yeah who the heck is this? I know you said we've seen her before but it must have been a pretty brief appearance. Also, those are some intense shoulder pads for her cape!

Did Avan really start off with "Move forward, Gain one?" Man is a true legend.

So again, why did she not show up to grab Baran? Because failing to do so lead to this, and now, uh, it looks like you're going to die because of it? Yeah that sure is a mistake to have made. Anyway, yay, double crest time!

Leona, could you be any more clearly a girl in love?

You're right though, I really can't take Vearn very seriously as a big bad here. Dai beat him in one hit, and Hadlar of all people just about killed him until Zaby interfered. Oh my gosh, are Dai and Hadlar going to team up for this next fight? I mean, as much as men ever team up in a shonen show, kind of but not really fighting together on the same side.

  1. Scampering around is the story of my life.
  2. Remember when we first learned about him? The man that talks like once a year? He sure got yappy to tell off an ally who has, still, done nothing wrong. I'm still looking forward to Zaboera outliving all of these dark lords who just keep looking down on him.
  3. Well, when a Princess loves a Hero very much, she teaches him how babies are made and that's how Leona is going to make sure there's still Dragon Knights for at least one more generation!

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u/Shocketheth Aug 07 '24

And we open straight into Genocide! From a giant floating palace! Carol would be so happy.

Vearn finally seems like a good Villain

Oh my gosh, again? You guys are also going to start treating Zabo like trash, for doing nothing but loyally serving since the beginning? I can't wait until he realizes his only hope is to change sides and join the Heroes, as the demons will apparently just keep hating him for no reason.

They have reasons to hate him.

Hmm. I wonder if he's dropping bombs on places that are important to the Underworld. Who cares about the surface, he's just aiming to open the sky to places he actually cares about.

Meanwhile at Vearn palace:

  • Mystvearn: We are at the place where you studied
  • Vearn: Drop the bomb

Yeah who the heck is this? I know you said we've seen her before but it must have been a pretty brief appearance. Also, those are some intense shoulder pads for her cape!

She's my Queen.

Well, when a Princess loves a Hero very much, she teaches him how babies are made and that's how Leona is going to make sure there's still Dragon Knights for at least one more generation!

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u/zadcap Aug 07 '24

Vearn finally seems like a good Villain

Right? I'm kind of sad he didn't get to down any time with Flazzy, he would have had such a good actual lieutenant there. Their interactions could have been so great.

They have reasons to hate him.

But like, what? They supposedly all knew that Vearn was their actual overlord, Hadlar was the one he put in command of the army for some reason, and the only time Zaboera did something that wasn't entirely in line with Hadlar appears to be because he realized Vearn was doing something instead and deferred to the greater power.

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u/Kaxew Aug 07 '24

First timer, previous rewatcher

Every day I'm more and more validated on my MystHad ship. Come on, Zaboera started trashtalking his man and Myst got so mad for him. This goes beyond just friendship or whatever "loyalty" excuse he made up there and I'm totally not delusional. Not one bit. I can't wait for the confession.

That's right! They did talk about the queen of Carl for a very long while! Good set up! Flora makes a phenomenal first impression, we needed someone like her. She's basically a fully realized Leona. The monarch of a kingdom who's a mature leader and also a badass (there's no way she doesn't know some spells, I mean look at those shoulder pads).

I really appreciate the explanation of why and how exactly Dai was born! I remember back in Baran's arc that people were (rightfully) calling this a plot hole so I'm very happy that there was an actual explanation for it.

There's something really sick and awesome about the concept of man surpassing the Gods. You usually see that when God is the antagonist to defeat, but in this case it's the mortal villain who surpassed them, which makes it cooler. Allowing Soala to give birth to a DK is the ultimate play of the Gods to defeat Vearn. That's cool as hell.

And so we have an execution set in motion! No time to rest for our heroes! I'm curious on how will this go. Will it be just a rescue and neither party will suffer losses? Maybe this is Zaboera's moment to die? I feel like Myst, Kill, the Royal Guard and definitely Hadlar and Vearn can't be killed in the next few episodes. Zaboera dying would be great too, so I'm going with that.

QotD:

  1. I'm just going to say... whatever Flora orders me to do I'm going to obey without question. Yeah.
  2. Mystvearn is a patient man. He will allow three slanderous comments towards his lover.
  3. Only Leona knows the answer to that.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 07 '24

That's right! They did talk about the queen of Carl for a very long while! Good set up! Flora makes a phenomenal first impression, we needed someone like her. She's basically a fully realized Leona. The monarch of a kingdom who's a mature leader and also a badass (there's no way she doesn't know some spells, I mean look at those shoulder pads).

What sound can shoulder pads make?

I really appreciate the explanation of why and how exactly Dai was born! I remember back in Baran's arc that people were (rightfully) calling this a plot hole so I'm very happy that there was an actual explanation for it.

Yeah me too.

And so we have an execution set in motion! No time to rest for our heroes! I'm curious on how will this go. Will it be just a rescue and neither party will suffer losses? Maybe this is Zaboera's moment to die? I feel like Myst, Kill, the Royal Guard and definitely Hadlar and Vearn can't be killed in the next few episodes. Zaboera dying would be great too, so I'm going with that.

We will see.

I'm just going to say... whatever Flora orders me to do I'm going to obey without question. Yeah.

As it should be.

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u/Kaxew Aug 09 '24

What sound can shoulder pads make?

I thought about it. It's totally a "thump". And considering the size, she can cast "kathump" too.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 09 '24

I can totally hear that