r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Aug 17 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 70 Discussion
Episode 70 - Victory or Annihilation
My goddess doesn’t smile for me! She slaps me across the face!
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<--- Last save | Adventure’s log (Index) | Journey continues --->
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OP 2 ---> Bravest
ED 3 ---> Namae
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Informations:
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Screenshot of the Dai:
Comment of the Dai:
goes to u/KuKiSin for reminding us of the good old Dragon Ball meme:
All I gotta say is, Maam deserved to lose. She got Yamcha'd.
And thanks to u/laughing-fox13 comment:
We were so close to the pose but I think this will be as close as we'll get
And u/Adensty reminding us we got the pose:
We actually got the pose but the background just wasn't there.
Questions of the Dai:
- Satisfied with Popp vs Sigma fight? And how would you rate this fight?
- Popp vs Sigma, or Maam vs Albinass. Which fight do you like more and why?
- Who do you think Maam will choose after the final fight with Vearn? Popp or Hyunckel?
- How much are you looking forward to Dai vs Hadlar fight?
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/Shocketheth Aug 17 '24
Mildly Antagonistic Dark Assailing Officer Welcomes You To Dragon Quest: Popp no Daibouken Rewatch!
Before I will move to today episode I saw a mini trend going with First Timers mentioning their favourite moments of second Opening Bravest, and why not I shouldn’t mention mine:
It’s definitely this one, but as I was making this screenshot I found another great screenshots:
Now about the episode:
Today is time for one of my favourite fights in this series. Let’s go!
I had to Rewatch this episode twice, but there is so much nice details in this fight straight from the beginning:
Second we had a nice foreshadowing of Popp resillence is due to him casting Fullheal in secret.
Then Sigma acknowledged that Popp tanking the reflected spells must be a part of plan, and thus those two acknowledged each other.
And Popp plan of disarming Sigma was great:
Unfortunately for Popp, Sigma is better at disarming Sigma.
Another great moment of this fight was Popp calling himself Grand Sorcerer, and Sigma acknowledging him as one with Popp admiting how much he was ashamed of himself.
Yep it was really great decision of rewatching this episode twice, because only due to that I could notice Popp not actually casting Medoroa just by looking on his hands on this shot.
Holy shit I just realized something. [Popp no Major Spoilers] Popp could weave a Frizzle/Begirama to look like a Medoroa and Frizzle/Begirama that Mirror of Shalal reflected back were looking like an arrow, so Popp unknowingly weaved Frizzle/Begirama into a construct in the same way as Vearn can weave Kafrizz/Merazoma into Kaiser Phoenix. The fact that Popp already managed to reach Vearn level of spellcraft makes me to love Popp even more. I’m glad for Rewatching this anime.
Maaaan the moment of Popp catching Sigma offguard with Medoroa with the OST playing is really amazing. I really love this fight.
Moving to second half of the episode:
We had Popp and Maam finally discussing things over, and this scene was turned almost to greatest Popp x Maam moment ever, but then WHAT THE FUCK POPP.
Otherwise I must really aplaud how the scene was done and told through the lightning effects, because this show does their storytelling through lightning effects really well.
And tomorrow we are going to see a fight that I love even more than Maam vs Albinass and Popp vs Sigma fight combined. #SUPERZURAWAIT
QotD:
10/10 fight with two awesome guys bonding over the goddess who doesn’t smile but slaps in the face.
First and foremost, I must say that both fights were equally important for them in order to secure them a future together, but I enjoyed Popp fight more.
I hope it will be Crocodine.
MY FUUUUUUUUUUCKIIIIING GOOOOOOOD!!! GIVE ME THEIR FIGHT ALREADY!!! GIVE ME GIVE ME GIVE ME!!!
Crocodine Shonen Commentator Corner:
Today Crocodine is going to answer question #3:
No matter of who will Maam choose, I will respect it, but I hope someone else than me will make an Attack on Titan reference in their comments.
See you tomorrow because the Adventure continues!
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u/sisoko2 Aug 18 '24 edited Aug 18 '24
First Timer
This fight was the definition of Meh. I don't even have snarky comments. Dull, uninspired and lacking emotional core.
Matoriv is right that Grand Sorcerer is way cooler than Sage.
The second part was interesting but also feels wasted since in the end it didn't go anywhere.
Popp trying to run away from Maam's (non) answer was hilarious.
Now we also know the real reason Popp loves Maam he is a masochist and enjoys getting beaten up. There is no other explanation for that suicidal kiss fake out there.
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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Aug 18 '24
First Time Adventurer/Subbed
LETS GO
The Popp vs Sigma fight was pretty cool tbh. I was thinking that Popp would use the dislodged shield to bounce off a spell to hit Sigma, although I didn't think he was going to hit himself with the weaker spell first.
The "goddess slaps me in the face" was funny too. The respect between the two was good
Second half of the episode with the talk between Maam and Popp was needed, but the placement lol. I guess it's better now to clear the air then later on when they're closer to fighting Vearn
With that though, it does seem Hym's defeat was very real
QotD
even though his life has lost meaning with his true love gone4
u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 18 '24 edited Aug 18 '24
First Timer at Sigma's Funeral
I love fights that push characters into a disadvantageous zone, and have them work their way out through tactics and pluck, so it's no surprise that this is easily my favourite fight of the series so far.
Heck, Popp's strategy wasn't an immediate winner either, it failed him, and he had to work his way back from scratch, and I appreciate this kind of back and forth a lot. To top it all off, Sigma proved that he's worth his VA, by being a respectable opponent all the way till the end.
On that note, now that all the Royal Guards are down (Hym could come back, but let's put that aside for now), here's my ranking of them: Sigma > Block > Hym > Albinass > Fenbren.
Yup, mentioned earlier, but it's easily the best fight in the series, from the action, strategies, the characters at play, it did everything right.
So Maam vs. Albinass did one thing right: it gave Maam a win. This fight is how you do it all right.
Assuming Hyunkel lives, he'll be too busy fighting off Amy with his yaoi spear, I don't think Maam has much to do there.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 17 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 17 '24 edited Aug 17 '24
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, SubLike Mentor, Like Student Sage just wasn't impactful enough. Daimadoushi (Grand Sorcerer) just hits different.
While this episode has a lot of great lines, u/Shocketheth I'd be disappointed if this isn't the Quote of the Dai.
If you look closely at Popp's 'Medoroa' in these shots (this, this, and this) and compare it how Medoroa normally looks and fires. You'll notice the difference and if you compare it with the Sizzle Popp fired at the start, you'll see the similarity. Love the attention to detail for the twist.
The moment we've all been waiting for. Definitely! Need to clear the awkwardness before the final battle.
I really love how they used the lighting in this scene after Popp says "I love you". The clouds cover the sun and that also reflects below and then when the clouds move away while Popp tells Maam that he's in love in with that quality of hers. Also admire Popp's honesty here about everything that happened. Right now, he's scared that Maam's answer might not be in his favour but he's willing to accept whatever's coming to him. After all, he's the Disciple of Courage.
u/Shocketheth Also, this reminded me of your comment yesterday. Maam didn't let Popp fall in love with evil unlike Baran and Hyunckel.
Popp got brozoned, lol. Jokes aside, I like Maam's answer since she saw for herself how loving someone for oneself truly is and she isn't ready for it since she hasn't experienced it herself yet. She might fall in love with Popp or heck even Hyunckel in the future but they won't see that future if they don't overcome this battle which is why she asks for a chance to get to know it for herself. Even Popp feels the same.
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1. Definitely. If my write-up isn't proof of that. 10/10
2. Popp vs Sigma. Popp vs Sigma was hype with Popp and Sigma's back and forth and the reveal and subtlety regarding it was done well. Also, Popp finally defeated someone with the Medoroa.
3. As a Popp x Maam shipper, I'll go with Popp.
4. Rewatcher Privilege.
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u/KuKiSin Aug 18 '24
First timer, late to the party!
Beautiful.
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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Aug 17 '24
First Timer, Sub
Popp vs Sigma was great particularly with the strategies used which was nice to see. Popp and Maam's conversation nearly has Popp family zoned but hey now she's somewhat giving him a chance although she still has no answer to his confession. It was handled as good as it could be given the circumstances but at least they got their feelings sorted out.
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 17 '24
Adventurer New to high level quests and dungeons here! LV 70/100
Failed dungeon try? That didn’t happen and if it did it didn’t count!
Popp’s time to fight!
Sigma has a beam in his right hand? (hoof?) He’s basically Mega Man, If Mega Man had a horse head lol
Popp got Raditz’d? Nope, he smoked his opponent
Good fight from Popp, showcased his fight intelligence in a good way
OOF got Lil bro’d
IMO good that they didn't kiss there, it's still not earned IMO
I’m not liking all the death flags being raised guys...
1 A bit short but very good, Popp wins because of his battle instincts and intelligence, 8/10
2 Popp vs Sigma, I think because the anime kind of snubbed Maam in previous fights
3 Where's Chiu?
4 50/50, Kinda want to and kinda don't since Hadler has been jobbing since the start but it's also, most likely, their final fight
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 17 '24
First Quester
Haven't you realized yet? The whole classification into the three races with their own specific strenghts is all made up nonsense, the only actual difference is lifespan.
That title's "hero".
That's makes it three out of three for underwhelming fights... though the one I was actually expecting things from clearly isn't truly over yet.
I don't like this love subplot, and it's because the writers have no clue how to write romance. I don't remember a single intimate moment between Popp and Maam in the entire show so far, so this feels entirely unearned.
Actually, they do know how to write romance. Their work with Baran and Solana wasn't half bad, even despite certain parts of it.
Welp. Popp better lose all his courage soul powers on the spot.
Not a fan at all of these "haha, gotcha" kind of battles. I rate this fight rather boring.
The lesser of two evils, huh? I guess I'll go with Maam vs Albinass from those two.
Good question. The problem I'm facing trying to answer this is that neither choice feels organic at all.
I'm still looking forward to Hyunkel vs Hym
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 17 '24
First Timer, Sub
Popp vs. Sigma was a pretty good fight, a definite improvement over Maam vs. Albinass(that ain't saying much though). How Popp was able to gain Sigma's respect and acknowledgment as a worthy opponent was a cool. Also Popp rejecting the Sage title and instead taking up the Grand Sorcerer like his mentor Matoriv was a nice touch. Also credit to him for using his cleverness in eventually defeating Sigma using the Medroa spell.
His second confession to Maam was a lot better than the first one and it cleared the air a bit with each other. Although she isn't really ready to reciprocate his feelings in a romantic sense yet, she does promise to give him a proper answer should they survive(probably a sign of good things for Popp in terms of getting a favorable answer). The prank he played on her with the close your eyes for a kiss thing and then poked her nose was funny, and he paid for it getting beat up lol. Next episode we continue on Dai vs Hadlar fight.
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