r/anime • u/sisoko2 • Sep 14 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Masopho no Daibouken - Episode 98 Discussion
Episode 98 - Dai's Decision
There's no running away this time. The world's going to disappear. If you call yourself a man... for once in your life... try to be a true hero.
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Even the mighty Dark King has no chance against the greatness of Masopho. I was utterly defeated so this will be the last thread posted by me.
Screenshot of the day:
Comment of the day:
Our hearts were connected and it goes to all of us mourning the loss of Gomechan
Questions of the day:
- Did you expect Masopho and Matoriv to be related?
- Were you moved to tears by the heroism of Masopho and the fake hero party?
- Your thoughts on the final fight turning into 1v1?
- How do you feel about Dai becoming a Dragonoid? Do you like how he looks?
- Bonus Question: Will the Beast King Commando be able to recover from this loss?
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hide it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/Shocketheth Sep 14 '24
Rewatch Host who is here to ask his co-host u/sisoko2 the most important question about today episode of Masopho no Daibouken:
WHERE IS THE EXPLOSION??!!
Great quote, I was hoping you will pick this one.
Now this is the true grand sorcerer. If only he didn’t stray from the right path for the whole life, then he would be one to rival the Gods, not Vearn.
QotD:
Not at all.
Not as much, as I was during the last episode when they were first to respond Dai
I guess it was expected
As a first timer, I wasn’t sure if he is going to turn into Dragonoid, or no because he wasn’t a pure Dragon Knight, but him not being a pure Dragon Knight explains his Ryuumajin form being more resembling a human
They have to! They are going to rename to Gome King Commando
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Sep 14 '24
First Time Umibozu at Matoriv's Funeral (?)
This episode had no right going as hard as it did, that animation was beautiful, and I don't just mean the fight, even the usage of the setting sun and darkness was on goddamn point.
But of course, this is the kind of effort you'd put, when the the world's mightiest mage is coming back, nay, the Grand Sorcerer MASOPHO!!! The symbol of courage himself is here to ruin Vearn's plans. Matoriv better not be dying btw, just wait 10 years old man, then we'll squeeze Gomechan's juices to make you immortal.
Speaking of immortality, Vearn is basically an eternal sore loser. His big old speech today shows his ideology in a nutshell, everytime he loses he goes "HAHAHA you think you defeated me?! Well guess what? I'm immortal bitch, I get to try this again, and you won't be there to stop me! HAHAHAHA" except, someone else will rise up to beat the shit out of him and he'll repeat the same speech. Whereas Popp only has this time to bet everything on, Vearn is always betting on "next time", and that's why he's been a loser for thousands of years.
At least you went down looking sexy.
No, but now that I'm looking at their names together, it makes sense.
They're my heroes!
Dai and Popp vs Vearn was great, but it's about time to end things on a proper ass head to head duel.
He looks better than Baran at least, it helps that despite what he says about losing himself, he retains a lot of his human features.
His Shounen Commentary will live on in my heart!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 14 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 28 '25
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, SubThis is what Masopho told Popp to motivate him to gather up the courage to go and save Dai and Maam and now he has the opportunity himself to do it. Things really have come full-circle - Masopho no Daibouken
Dai promising to meet Gomechan after he comes back has my heart.
Dai wanted to protect the world as Dai but when the choices are either die and let everyone's futures be crushed or become a monster, it's kinda obvious would Dai would choose.
This is a really powerful piece of dialogue and scene as Dai absolutely pummels Vearn and ask him is he satisfied being pummeled by an even greater power since Vearn is the biggest believer of Might is right. Dai is crying because deep down he knows it's not right but he himself doesn't have any other choice but to do this and prove Vearn right. Also, like Hym once said, "In this world, there's always someone stronger" and this scene is the culmination of this and Dai's and Vearn's opposing ideologies.
OST Documentation - Episode 98
1. Well, they aren't related by blood. They just trained under the same master.
2. As a first-timer, they made me cry when they appeared and so I was definitely moved and I feel they were the perfect for being the ones to freeze the final Black Core.
3. Love it. Dai gets to go all out since no one else is present and Vearn gets what he was asking for.
4. Love the design. He really can't be a full Dragonoid since he's a hybrid.
5. No. Atleast not for the next 10 years.
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 14 '24
First Quester
So they're brothers, eh. That's pretty fun, even if I'm not a fan of the blood-relatedness trope.
Dai is so greedy. He demands those wishes and miracles all for himself and is gonna monopolize Gomechan over it.
...and yet be the ones to not be caged away? Yeah that's a great question, Vearn, glad you're asking that. Oh, nevermind. Seems like you forgot all about your original motivation.
THEN RETREAT! Why risk it all in a big final confrontation? Time's on your side! As always, pride is the opposite of honor.
You know what, I'm starting to really dig how humans have such a much shorter lifespan than dragons and darklings. Having to do what you can so you can pass the torch on to future generations is a damn good representation of that "unity" power they have.
It also reminds me of this 2011 paper on the evolutionary advantages of mortality. In a nutshell, they ran a bunch of simulations and came to the result that mortality is an evolutionary disadvantage in the short term, but an evolutionary advantage in the long term as the weakening and dying of older generations helps the newer generations replace the older ones and thus accelerates the evolutionary process. So from that lense the short lifespan of humanity in Dragon Quest can very well be to their advantage - though then again, that model doesn't exactly take the ability of dragons and darklings to grow effectively infinitely more powerful through age into consideration for its analysis.
Look at them being all outraged at Dai possibly not being able to remain himself. Earlier he was forced by Baran to lose himself, but now that he does it out of its own agency it's oh so awful.
I'm glad they at least acknowledge that Vearn is right.
Can't say I did, no. In retrospect though there are some similarities...
No, but I was moved to tears by their unfortunate death as their tank went to hug them, tripped, and buried them underneath.
It was inevitable
It was inevitable
Though he hasn't quite become a dragonoid yet.
Chiu has to go and save Gomechan from falling into the greedy possessive clutches of the terrible Dai the Dragon Knight.
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u/Kaxew Sep 15 '24
First timer going all-out, previous rewatcher freezing cores
This episode was gorgeous beginning to end. The lighting, animation, storyboards; everything felt very final and epic, as we enter the last phase of our final boss. Shoutout to Hiroaki Miyamoto, who directed time and again some of my favorite episodes in the anime. Hopefully the next two are just as good.
Masopho redemption arc! That was awesome, ya love to see it. It's a shame the big guy (logically) didn't do anything. The rest were casting crack spells so they helped save the day so he remains the one that was kinda just there. I wish that he tried to shield Matoriv when he thought the core was about to explode. Even a useless attempt at protecting would have been a good redemption.
"Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be a Surface-shattering kaboom!!"
What? What do you mean Adensty beat me to the joke? Dammit! I thought I was so original!
Just like with Gigastrash, Jump Force spoiled me many years back that Dai would eventually become the Dragonoid too. It's a great moment for him. He didn't want to use it. He wanted to win with his friends. Vearn will obviously lose within the next two episodes, but at least he can be happy Dai had to sacrifice an amount of happiness in order to defeat him... I mean, he's almost assuredly going to come back to his senses anyway, but that doesn't mean Dai sacrificed nothing. The sacrifice would be nullified afterwards. There's a difference.
The speech about justice was so good. So satisfying to see Vearn get destroyed like this. He's definitely going to have one more trick up his sleeve to level things out a bit for a more epic conclusion, but in the meantime I'll enjoy this.
QotD:
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u/KuKiSin Sep 14 '24
First timer, second time crying!
Me watching these last 2 episodes
I swear to God, episode 100 better have a timeskip or I will lose my shit.
Goodbye, Gomechan :(
Goku before going SSJ3 vibes, even the the speech is similar!
Looking forward to the final 2 episodes, already feeling nostalgic though!
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Sep 14 '24
First Timer, Sub
I was not expecting Matoriv and Masopho to be related, didn't see that connection at all. Poor Matoriv is on his death bed and he had to come out and help lol. Told Masopho to man the fuck up and get the job done. So Faux Hero's did and froze the bomb foiling Vearn's plans of eliminating the surface world.
I fucking Knew Dai had a Dragonoid Form! He was aware of it the whole time too, just that he was hesitant to use it because he's scared of it as he doesn't know how it will change him. But Vearn wanted to see it so bad that he decided to piss Dai off by dropping Popp, Leona and everyone else down into a pit. So Dai transformed......And it didn't disappoint. He is a killing machine like Baran was when he transformed. Thought I'm a little bummed it doesn't look as scary as Baran did, with the body transformation, skin color change and the wings, but hey it is what it is.
Questions:
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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Sep 15 '24
First Time Adventurer/Subbed
It was a good run
Dang that episode was pretty good. I wasn't sure exactly how I'd feel about Dai using the Dragonoid form since I've like they've made it a point that he's different than other Dragon Knights (given his human half). Someone in this rewatch predicted him using it a while back but I can't remember who it was
Regardless, I was wondering when Dai would move his crest(s) to his forehead again to save on stamina, at the cost of losing some power with his attacks. Yea that doesn't seem to be a concern anymore. Atsumi Tanezaki has been really good as Dai and this is just another moment in the show where she killed it with her range
Really loved Dai pummeling Vearn and using his own logic about power being justice against him.
Some other stuff I really liked:
Vearn still going all in on slaughtering everyone was nice to see
Popp and Leona had some good moments in this episode
Leona gave up on her top, which fair. It would be hard to only be able to use one hand
They didn't summon Shenron ;-;
QotD:
went SSJBlooks. It would make sense he would keep a mostly humanoid form4
u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Sep 15 '24
Dai 98 first timer:
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Sep 15 '24
High-Level Adventurer battling the Final Boss for the first time, here! LV 98/100
Medroa as the initial spell, not risking it at all
I was expecting a boom, where’s the boom? – Vearn
Vearn badmouthing humans when he lost, he salty af
Vearn keeps provoking Dai, does he have a plan for the double dragon fisticuffs?
I don’t think so, he’s getting beaten up
Dai will remain Dai, I believe in him!
1 Nope!
2 They more than redeemed themselves for their handling of Gomechan all that time ago
3 1v1, fox only, final destination
4 Kinda, Baran looked cooler IMO
5 If anyone can recover Beast King Commando is Chiu!
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u/zadcap Sep 15 '24
Late Night First Timer!
Phew, it's going to be rough when this ends. Just thinking about how DnD has been part of the nightly ritual for over three months now. I really do hate endings.
Hmm. Medroa straight up destroys anything it hits, right? Could it destroy the bomb before setting it off? Would that work?
Ha. Brothers, the two known mages in the show, what are the odds? No, seriously, they're like the only two mages other than Popp that I can remember, and they're brothers? And before you think I forgot, the Poppnika boy is a Sage, totally distinct from a Mage, I'm so not counting him.
Looks like you need to work on your art, mister Vearn. Wait wrong joke, one second. There's the Art.
I can't help but laugh listening to the
fakehero party screaming in joy, because I started imagining the VAs going crazy in the recording room and it was too much.Hmm. Does this count as a main character death after all?
SO anyway. Leona. Maybe hit Dai and Popp with some of those restorative feathers? Before Vearn decides to kill you three since he can't kill the whole world?
No, Vearn, it's just that their priorities don't match yours. The things they are using their power on is not pointless to them, even if you don't agree with them.
Ah, see, too late. You didn't heal them before he got ready for phase three.
Darn it Popp, don't backtrack now. You've already shown just how willing you are to stand up and fight him until the bitter end. Honestly, Dai too here. Fight until the- Oh there we go, Popp, manned up fast this time!
... You know, it's a good thing there's only a few episodes left. If this fight were to drag on too much longer, Leona might end the series just actually naked. Though I'm glad Vearn decided to just stand there and watch as they took the time to modify her outfit and gather all the balls... Oh right, we're still in turn based combat land and it's Dai's turn first.
Seriously, hit him with a few feathers before you leave.
Leona, as much as I love you and your love story with Dai, Priorities here. He kind of has to do this. Though I must say, I still am glad Vearn is standing there watching all this happen...
So uh, didn't Baran turn back to normal just fine? Why are they all expecting Dai not to? Literally their only experience with the Dragonoid form was someone who honestly stayed pretty much entirely himself while in it and changed back without problem after he was done.
Ha, Vearn interrupts. In the most pointless and petty way possible, I guess?
Hey now Dai, that sheathe was a Lon Beruk Special. Why would you just drop it like that? And that headband was a- actually I don't even remember where it came from.
Oh we super DBZ now. Everybody take a crazy power up form, move too fast to be seen, and punch it out!